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Revisiting the Age of Aisha: Postscript
By Sam Shamoun
In this section we are going to cite some of the narrations concerning the second caliph Umar’s marriage
proposal to Ali’s daughter in order to highlight the people’s reaction to a 47 year old man desiring to marry
a 10-12 year old girl.
Note what the following sources say regarding Ali’s response to Umar’s request to marry Umm Kulthum:
Umar asked Imam Ali for the hand of Bibi Umme Kulthum in marriage, to which Ali replied, 'O
Commander of the Faithful, SHE IS A MILK FED CHILD'. To which Umar replied, 'By Allah!
That is not true. You are seeking to avoid me'. 'Ali therefore ordered that Umm Kulthum have a
bath and then wear a shawl. 'Ali told her to go to the Khalifa, 'give him my regards and ask him if
he likes the shawl, he can keep it, other wise, he should return it'. When she came to Umar, he said,
'May Allah bless you and your father, I like it'. Hence Umm Kulthum came back to her father and
told her that Umar did not open the shawl but just looked at me. Ali married her to Umar and they
had a child named Zayd. (Ibn Sa'd, Kitab Al-Tabaqat Al-Kubra, Volume 8, Dhikr Umm Kulthum, p.
463; bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)
"'Umar asked 'Ali for the hand of his daughter, Umme Kalthum in marriage. 'Ali replied that she
has not yet attained the age (of maturity). 'Umar replied, 'By Allah, this is not true. You do not
want her to marry me. If she is underage, send her to me'. Thus 'Ali gave his daughter Umme
Kalthum a dress and asked her to go to 'Umar and tell him that her father wants to know what this
dress is for. When she came to Umar and gave him the message, he grabbed her hand and
forcibly pulled her towards him. 'Umme Kalthum asked him to leave her hand, which Umar
did and said, 'You are a very mannered lady with great morals. Go and tell your father that you are
very pretty and you are not what he said of you'. With that 'Ali married Umme Kalthum to 'Umar."
(Tarikh Khamees, Volume 2, 'Dhikr Umm Kalthum,' p. 384; see also Zakhair Al-Aqba, p. 168; bold
and underline emphasis ours)
Now if a 10-12 year old prepubescent girl is considered too physically immature for marriage, then how
much more a 9-year-old minor who was still playing on swings and with dolls?
Certain Sunni narrations indicate that the main reason why Ali even acquiesced to Umar’s marriage
proposal is because the latter FORCED him to do so:
"Umar asked for the hand of 'Ali's daughter. 'Ali replied that she is too young. Umar eventually
made 'Ali desperate, and he [Umar] climbed the pulpit declaring 'By Allah, I have made 'Ali
desperate as I heard Rasulullah say that on the Day of Judgement all family trees shall me severed
save those of my family'. By the orders of 'Ali Umme Kalthum was then groomed and sent to Umar.
When Umar saw her, he got up, took her in his lap, kissed her, and showered blessings on her.
When she got up to leave, he grabbed her ankle and said, 'Tell your father that I am willing'. When
she returned home and told her father about what had transpired, Ali married her to Umar".
(Sawaiqh al-Muhriqa, p. 280; bold and underline emphasis ours)
Notice Umar’s rather shameful conduct in kissing a young minor and touching her ankle at a time when he
wasn’t even married to her. This next report shows us how Umm Kulthum reacted to Umar’s despicable
behavior:
"'Umar asked Ali for the hand of Umme Kalthum. 'Ali replied that she was too young. 'Umar said,
‘Marry her to me and do as I say for I wish to attain to that position which no one else has attained.
'Ali then said, 'I shall send Umme Kalthum to you. If you like her then I shall marry her to you.' 'Ali
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that you were Khalifa of the Muslims I WOULD HAVE BROKEN YOUR NOSE. The girl
went home and repeated the episode to her father, stating, 'You sent me TO A FOUL MAN', with
that 'Ali said, 'He is your husband'. Umar then attended a gathering of the Muhajireen and said,
'Congratulate me'. They said, 'Why?' He said, 'I have married Umme Kalthum binte 'Ali.'" (Al-
Istiab, Volume 4, p. 467; bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)
One narration even has the caliph rebuking anyone that would have a problem with the his marrying a
premature minor:
He came to the Muhajirun among the Companions as they sat between the Grave and the Pulpit?
their usual place for meeting `Umar to discuss news: "Felicitate this newlywed!" Then he told them
he had married `Ali's daughter Umm Kulthum and said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Every
lineage and means will be severed on the Day of Judgment except my lineage and my means.' I
have kept company with him and wished to add this also." Later he again said, on the pulpit: "DO
NOT DISPARAGE ME [FOR MARRYING A YOUNG GIRL], for I heard the Prophet say may
upon him blessings and peace: 'On the Judgment Day every means will be cut off and every lineage
severed except my lineage.'" (G. F. Haddad, The Marriage of `Umar ibn al-Khattab with Umm
Kulthum bint `Ali; bold and capital emphasis ours)
The people’s objection to a 47 year old man wedding a 10-12 year old child demonstrates that even folks
back then knew that there was something morally objectionable with grown men marrying female children,
despite the fact that Muhammad made such relationships lawful in his so-called “revelation.”
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