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on the Above Top Secret Forum at the end of 2008? Approximately a year
later, someone calling him/herself “Illuminator13” contacted the members
of the same forum, willing to give them his service in form of answering
their questions. He (I say he for simplicity, but we don’t know the gender)
gave a time window of 6 days (Nov 15-20, 2009) where the members could
ask him any questions.
I knew of this material already by the time is was released, but haven’t had
the chance to edit it until now. Here is the original thread on the ATS
Forum:http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread519570/pg1.
DAY 1:
2.) Think before you ask your question. I will only be here for a very brief
period of time, so I suggest you ask only important questions. Use your
Intelligence, Intuitiveness, Courtesy and Creativeness when asking a
question. Use your mind and heart to break free from that box that you
have been placed in.
3.) Ask specific questions. I am bound by a few laws that I would rather not
break by accident, so if I feel your question is very general, it may be
ignored.
Adhere to these four simple rules and this may prove to be an insightful and
enlightening experience. Disregard them and I may choose to disappear.
Now, with those preliminary rules in mind, feel free to post your questions.
Above Top Secret (Q): Well here’s mine, what do you expect to achieve
with your post here?
Q: Ok i will play along, just for show, whether you are or not.
1) What books do you think we should read to understand the spiritual side
of the so called elite?
2) Why do you feel you have to come here at all, to justify or what ever
reason, the elite, at all?
A: 1.) None, it is not your goal to understand anything outside of who you
are and why you are here.
2.) I have not come her to “justify” anything, that is because everything is as
it is for a reason, wheither or not you believe it to be so.
(3) What is your belief for the origin of life in the universe and this planet?
A: 1.) No. Telekinesis is possible though, but most likely you will not ever
know anyone who can do it.
Q: I see you breezed though your 20 posts which are all one liners of no
value.
Your one line posts break the rules here and also show that you really have
nothing to contribute to this board but nonsense.
A: 1.) Those 20 posts were just a formality for me to post this thread. This is
my first time on this website and I had no idea I would be required to post
20 messages. My lengthy responces will come on this thread. I do have have
the luxury of time to post 20 indeph responses to other topics. Plus most of
the things on this on this site are nonsense anyway, although I did see a few
with some merit.
2.) Well if you think that, then I am glad you are not a moderator.
I have never heard of such a thing, but if it is true it does not override the
reality of the situation: The Rothschilds are not Bloodline.
A: I can tell you that the Bloodlines are here to help you and special is not
the correct word, duty is.
Color me skeptical…
Q: You say that most of the subjects here are “nonsense”. Which subjects
hold merit?
A: All the ones that portain to “Alien Invasion”, “2012 Apocalypse”, “Swine
flu” and the like. Most others are completely irrelavent to your lives
personally.
Q: I got a question…
Are you as fake as the other 1000+ posts “just like this one here” where
someone comes and explains they are “from the secret societies at hand” or
“the Illuminati”?
My second question is…would you roll your eyes at what you wrote thus far,
if you were not who you claim to be?
A: I never claimed to be from the Illuminati (Which has less power than
you think)
The actual phrase is “I couldn’t care less”…meaning, you care absolutely the
lowest factor of caring possible.
Man…you are way too easy to debunk. TRY HARDER! I demand a better
Illuminati then this.
As for your “debunking” me, think as you wish. If you do not like this topic
and have no questions to ask, simply go elsewhere. There is no reason for
you beng hostile towards me, because I am not hostile towards you.
And you are saying our purpose is to learn our (self) purpose and
everything else is a distraction? Does every person play an equal role in this
world or is one persons purpose more important then the other? Is the
method of finding answers to look inside yourself? (for answers)
Was Edgar Cayce a charlatan? Did his heavy Catholicism muddle up his
message?
I’ll see how these are answered before I ask some “real” questions
Thanks
Haha read your two most recent posts . . . never mind phoney baloney
poor try — Hidden_Hand did it the most convincing by far! (got to love
grad school writing eh?)
A: I would not read the Law of One or any other spiritual writings if I were
you, no matter what was “recommended to you”.
In the earlier part of his dialogue “Hidden Hand” made grave errors in what
he told you, he “talked too much”.
Q: 1) Do you believe that you where reincarnated, and that you lived on this
planet before?
2) Why do you think you are part of a family, that has a “duty” to run
society. Why does your family think they where given this duty?
Don’t bother asking unless you just want to toy with him more
“Aliens” are not a threat to you. Besides that your governments are the ones
who do most of the abductions.”
A: What part of the “20” post formality did you not understand? This was a
post to which I thought I could tell you otherwise. No “alien” invasion is
going to happen, why? Because “Aliens” are not a threat to you nor do they
wish to invade you. Contradiction? Nope.
Like I stated before do not pay attention to Alien Invasion threads, they are
not true and are not useful to you in any way, shape or form.
Q: So what are the bloodlines planning on doing to help us, if thier here to
help us why not just come out and tell us?
They have no reason to hide if thier going to help us. Only reason to hide if
the plan on killing us.
A: 1.) All you have to do is take an honest look around and see what you are
not.
All the ones that portain to “Alien Invasion”, “2012 Apocalypse”, “Swine
Flu” and the like. Most others are completely irrelavent to your lives
personally.”
Wait…so ALL POSTS that “portain” (you mean pertain, you incredibly bad
speller, you) to Alien invasions, 2012 end-of-the-world, Swine Flu AND
THE LIKE (like what?! Man…you suck at this), ARE ALL REAL!?
HAHAAHAHAH.
Dude…graduate from high school. If you can…and THEN return to try and
spam/scam us. O.k? Because the drivel you are spewing here makes you
look really (and I mean REALLY) dumb.
Good to know that the sacred bloodlines of old have trusted knowledge to
you. They must have had a “pick from the bottom of the bucket day” down
at the old Illuminati club house.
A: Not only can I see the negativity in your words, I can feel it also. Such
malicious and venom. What cause are you fighting for?
I am not a hoaxer.
Q: I didn’t mean You specifically “forcing” your help on us! I mean the
“help” that you said the “Bloodline” feels it is their duty to carry out? The
question was,”Will that help be forced on us?”
(Because,frankly,I don’t need your help,or want it! I don’t like anyone other
than God deciding what is in my best interest!)
Thanks anyway!
Welcome back.
Enjoy playing with your computer. But don’t stay up too late, you have a big
day in class tomorrow and we wouldn’t want you forgetting your lunchbox.
A: I am not “Hidden Hand” and I would never even dream of making the
mistakes that he did.
Q: The problem we have is we do not know how far we can go into this stuff,
without you stopping answering. Who ever you are your very cryptic, and
that can mean plenty of things to us all here.
You mentioned the word “Duty”. Can you define what you mean by that,
without breaking any rules? I think thats the only thing you have said so
far, its your duty.
Just simply what does “duty” mean to you, and who ever your part off?
Q: OK, so you didn’t give me an answer….I know your trying to keep up. It
is getting a little heated here, many think your not the real deal. Let’s prove
them wrong….can you give us any details that we don’t already know about
the whole 2012 scenario?
Q: come on people lets not get involved in all this, it ends up making people
look gullible and stupid, an exercise in futility.
A: Is wanting answers “gullible and stupid”? The only futile thing on this
thread is the negative comments, which are unnecessary, not to mention
just plain rude.
Like I stated before do not pay attention to Alien Invasion threads, they
are not true and are not useful to you in any way, shape or form. “
All the ones that portain to “Alien Invasion”, “2012 Apocalypse”, “Swine
flu” and the like. Most others are completely irrelavent to your lives
personally.
Do you know what merit means? Did you use it wrong? Did your bloodlines
run to your head or something?
Would I be correct?
A: If you dont want MY help, fine I wont give it. But the Bloodlines “help” is
here regardless of whether or not you want it. Contradiction? No.
Q: Tread lightly friend, but give us a little more detail. How can you say you
can help if you don’t at least put a little meat & potatoes on the table?
Q: So true, the only thing so far in this thread, is that he/she has a duty, and
thats all they said, lol.
A: Am I giving the wrong answers, or are you people asking the wrong
questions?
Q: Based on some of what you’ve said, I would believe that you claim to
know “Why” we are here. If so, why are we here, in your opinion?
A: If I told you that not only would I be breaking a law, but I would achieve
the complete opposite of what I hope to.
If I could tell you that, I would tell everyone, every chance I had…but this
world doesnt work like that.
Maybe tomorrow I’ll finally get to get started on the honest questions, so if
those of you who wish to be negative could restrain yourself from posting it
would be very appreciated.
Goodbye.
DAY 2:
Q: OK, so you didn’t give me an answer….I know your trying to keep up. It
is getting a little heated here, many think your not the real deal. Let’s prove
them wrong….can you give us any details that we don’t already know about
the whole 2012 scenario?
A: Why are you worried about 2012? Not only is it irrelevant to anything in
your life as of this moment, there is no need to concern yourself with it at
all.
Q: OK maybe i can fill you in on ATS a bit and explain the hostility your
receiving. About once a month, there will be a thread from someone who
claims to be in contact with aliens, from the future or from the bloodlines.
They come on asking members to ask questions and they promise to give
answers, normally with some rules applied. Then we get a thread running
for about 20 pages, with no coherent answer to any of the questions asked,
very similar to the thread you have just begun.
so you maybe spending your afternoon doing this after maybe reading a
book on bloodlines, come on here and see how many gullible people you
can dupe. You will realise we are not all saps on this website, so unless you
provide some hardcore facts about yourself your family and anything
slightly interesting, do one
A: Yes, I looked through this website a bit and I did see what you are
referring to, so now I partly understand why some of the members here are
so hostile. I have never read any books on the Bloodlines, because none
exist. I do not think any of you are “saps” and I am not asking to be
“believed”. I am only here to answer questions. People say that I am being
vauge, and I am being vauge but there is a good reason for that.
Q: Would you mind telling us what mistakes Hidden Hand made and was
he truthfull in his replys and pls check your u2u
Ok, “Hidden Hand” was who he said he was, there should be no mistake
about it. Now, I have read his discourse with this site and it was very honest
and a pretty good piece of work. But, to my suprise, I noticed that he told
you people way more than he was supposed to and I was not the only one to
notice. Infact here is a quote from him:
“Let’s put it this way, I have already been, shall we say “chastised” for going
well beyond my remit here. It was not intended that I be as open as I have
been. In fact, if you follow the topic through again from the beginning, you
may notice how my ‘tone’ toward you (collectively) has softened somewhat
during our discourse together.
I have, as far as possible, adhered fully to the Laws of Free Will and
Confusion, although there have been instances where I have said more than
I should have. You yourselves will not suffer for this, however, when it
comes to my next cycle in 4th Density Negative, and working off my Karmic
Record, I will have to accept the consequences for my actions. But hey, I
figure I’ve got a Negative enough life to come as it is, so what’s a little extra
going to matter.”
The one who were overseeing the discourse between him and this site read
what he wrote and automatically knew that he had broken the Law of Free
Will. How did he break it? Well, he went into too much detail when
answering the questions. Not only that, but he answered questions that
nobody even asked and that is not a wise thing to do. There are
consequences for breaking The Laws, and they are pretty harsh if you ask
me. Now, people on this site accuse me of being “vague” and “cryptic” but
they do not know what I know. There are things that I CANNOT tell you
without harming myself and that is something I am looking to avoid. The
reason why I continue to “tread lightly” is because you really can’t be too
sure that you’ve broken a Law, until after it happens–then it hits you like a
ton of bricks, although you can proceed with caution and will most likely
avoid breaking anything. The people in this world break these Laws all the
time but they do it unconsciously, yet the[y] still pay for their mistake. Now
if I were to consciously, knowingly, break these Laws then I would be in for
a lot of trouble. What are these Laws? You’ll have to figure them out for
yourself.
Q: I have a suggestion for you….instead of answering all the negitive, give
your attention to the positive. So far you have brought nothing to the table.
You ask for questions, promising answers….I think you falling short in the
answer department.
Please, if your the real deal get to it and stop wasting your/our time. Oh ya,
one more question….what blood type is the bloodline you speak of?
A: I figured that out yesterday and that is what I am going to do. As for the
“promising” answers part, you people are asking the wrong types of
questions. Now, today I am going to “stretch the boundries” a little bit, but I
WILL NOT knowningly do anything that I know will be detrimental to why
I am here, no matter how any of you may feel about it.
My answers so far have value, all you have to do is “read between the lines”.
Q: Hmmm seems to me you have read enough here to use a title from a very
popular thread “Window of Opportunity” by the poster Hidden_Hands.
Also, his thread was the reason that this site was the last place I wanted to
come to, to say what needs to be said. The idea is to help new people,
instead of those who have been helped. Metaphorically speaking: If you
were donating 100 christmas gifts to needy families, would you drop off all
the toys at one house? No, you would go to different ones.
A: Very good question. I love the way you formatted it, you didnt ask for
THE answers to these questions, you asked for MY answers to these
questions. The answers are relatively simple. Here they are:
Q: I wanna play!
A: 1.) Yes. A catalyst will always be needed as long as their are souls who
need to be developed. There is no other way around it.
3.) I am not in the habit of lying, and I have not lied to anyone on this
website.
Q: Is earth such a hard ride sometimes to show us what we are not? And if
so,being that we are wonderful supreme beings ourselves why do we have to
learn this again and again.
You must understand that the ride is only as hard as you make it. Yes, it
may infact be “difficult” some times, but that is what perseverance is all
about. There are Two “worlds” on this planet. One is the Inner “World”
(perception), and the other is the Outer “World” (reality). You have, for the
most part, complete dominance in Inner “World”. This meaning you
control, more or less, everything that happens there. In the other Outer
“World” you may think have less control, but in reality (kind of ironic) you
really do have more to say in it than you think.
Q: I think he never hid behind a proxy lol. Plus my IP address question got
him going, lol.
Would you come onto a board, with your real ip. Can mods find out his real
ip address, and would he want them to know it, lol.
A: I do not need to “hide behind proxies”. Infact I only use two, and both
are at public venues. I have been to both, one yesterday and one today.
These are the only two I will be using, the moderators will know for sure.
Q: “Ok, when I say, “true” Bloodline, I am talking about the ones who rule
this world. They are not who or what you’ve been told they are.”
What I’ve been told is that all people are born naturally free and sovereign
unto themselves, and any notion of Divine Right of Kings is a false doctrine
intended to subvert freedom. By believing in natural rights and inherent
political power belonging to all people am I in direct conflict with this so
called “true bloodline”?
A: No. Believe what you will, it wont the fact of the matter.
Q: surely you have to expect some negativity. Your making some pretty
outlandish claims and have proved little in the way of evidence.
A: Interesting. What “outlandish claims” have I made? You are the ones
assuming everything and thats not my problem.
Q: Who dug the Oak Island pit, why and does it now contain anything ?
What did the Templars use to blackmail the church and where is it now ?
Why are you any different to any other loony that makes exactly the same
claim and cop out as you ?
A: More irrelevant questions. Tell me, of what practical use is anything that
you just asked? How does it portain to your life in general?
3.) For one, I am far from a “loony”. And most “loonys” you see are disinfo
agents, although some are loony. I have have no reason to do any of this if I
did not genuinely want to help you. Take what you want from my
statements and throw away the rest, because the only real lasting truth is
one that comes from within.
Some of your questions are irrelevant, but I’ll answer them anyway.
Hexagon
2.) The Hexagon is a very sacred symbol and also symbol of Saturn. Infact
the symbol is actually imbedded onto Saturn. It’s where the elders resign. If
you actually pay attention and observe various religious
structures/paintings you will find that the Hexagon is present in all major
religions, it is not a coincidence.
3.) Dreams- First and foremost it is a place where your soul takes a rest
from this realm. Also, it can be manifestation of something that you want in
this world, something you dread, or a time of fun where “physical laws” do
not apply (Lucid Dreaming)
4.) By finding the answers to these three questions: Who are you? Where
are you at? Why are you here? Then living according to the answers of each.
It is imperative that you actually live according to these answers, do not just
figure them out and then ignore them.
7.) More or less. I am not here to discuss “Hidden Hand” much look to my
earlier answer for the answer to this question.
8.) I am here to point out what’s really important. There are many
distractions and “Red herrings”.
Can we just go on happily raising our families, living our lives and not be
concerned with “everyone” trying to take everything in our own little
worlds?
I don’t think I am here for any other purpose than to give me to everyone I
know. To be a son, brother, daddy, husband. Eventually a grandpa. haha.
I am here and contribute positively to society, enforcing rules and laws to
maintain some semblance of order, help people when I can.
If there is some form of “grand plan”, my main question is: Can people just
go on living and loving without fear of being violated inhumanely…? haha.
2.) More or less, that is why you are here. Dig deeper though, you’ll figure it
out
Q: Listen…
Answer this and I promise I will listen with the most open of minds
How can we be sure you are who you say and not some hack or hoax?
Believe it or not that is very important to alot of us here. You can’t just say
these things and expect us to take you seriously and if you do indeed have
important answers well this is the only well to help your cause and ours.
You want to spread your important messages then throw us a bone here,
otherwise you’re nothing more than a hoaxer and your message will fall to a
majority of deaf ears.
Also if you are such a bloodline and have such important news you’ve
already gone behind your people’s backs by posting to us…why not come
out into the open?
A: Interesting question, but what, in this world, can you really be sure of? If
you are not aware, most of the stuff you have been taught by others
throughout your whole lives is incorrect.
I have not went behind anyones back, I swore no oaths.
Q: So we finally get a little more from you, you know we are going to ask
you, who is the supreme one you are talking of.
1) So in your opinion, who is this supreme one, is this what we call god?
3) Do you mind if a board mod, takes your IP address, and tries to see what
area of the world you are in? I know this may be too personal, but the board
mods could do this.
On the thing about board negatives, its just that we get loads of these
threads. Your not helping yourself or us, by being so cryptic, alot of us
speak frankly, as anonymity on the net lets us. We will never know if any
true insider comes here, but we can just see where this thread goes.
A: 1.) That depends, are you worshiping dead humans? And worship, in
itself, is an unnecessary thing to do, being honestly grateful is good enough.
2.) It is possible to learn through those methods, but not necessary. You
know everything you need to know about why you came here, all you have
to do is look within.
3.) Do as you wish, it doesnt matter to me. The places where I am using a
computer, like I stated before, are both public venues in a well populated
city. If you seek to find me though, you only have 3 days left.
Q: What are the best ways to heal, both physical and emotional problems?
This does sound like hidden hand, but then again he was convincing after
all was said and done.
What can we do on a day to day basis to help achieve what we are here to
do?
A: 1.) Ok, Physical ailments have more to do with the Objective “World”
than anything else. There is little you can do when something severe
happens to your “body”, no matter how much you may “believe”. Example:
Amputees. Most of these instances are designed to test the person whom it
happens to. How will you react? Go into a pit of dispair and become
resentful or continue on being content and accept what has happened? But
relatively smaller problems are not design to test you at all and have
solutions that can be solved by an “Objective” source, and by “Objective” I
mean something that you would perceive to be apart from your “Inner” self.
Example: You trip, fall and break an arm. What do you do? Wrap it in a cast
an allow it to heal itself.
2.) As for Emotional problems, if you take note, most are caused by your
choosing to react to a certain situation in a certain way. Think about it, who
is in control of you? Who makes the decisions in your life?
3.) The core of what he said was true and that really is all you should be
concerned with.
4.) Find out what you are, where you are, and why you came here. Then live
according to the answers you find out.
1. Our origins – are reptilians, Dracos and Annunaki our brothers and
sisters?
10. What are our options when it is time? (Stay with Earth, Move to higher
dimension/ density)?
2.) True in a certain manner. You all have to go through the same lessons in
each “lifetime”, even if you already mastered them. Ok, I’ll use this
example: You are in a store, nobody is around and you really want the item
you are looking at, only you don’t have any money left. Test: Will you steal
to get what you want? Most people won’t but some will, why? Because their
soul has not passed the lesson of theft and stealing. The ones who have
passed are still tested with it but they pass easily, infact they don’t even feel
the temptation that the person who hasn’t passed feels. Now, it is possible
for a soul to learn all of the lessons on their first attempt. Doesn’t happen
very often, but it has happened.
3.) When I tell you not to read any texts regarding spirituality, that is not to
say that there arent any that will tell you what you need to know. Now, for
most people who read texts like the Law of One, their soul will get the
feeling that it is true, but it will be nowhere near the feeling that they would
have if they were to figure out the core of the manner by themselves.
Besides that you are less likely to believe, let alone truely follow, what you
do not figure out for yourself. Although there are exceptions to this, there
arent many.
5.) Yes
9.) Do not focus on things of that nature, its not why you are here.
10.) You have little choice in the matter. Once you get higher up, then you’ll
be able to decide what you wish to do.
What is consciousness?
A: 1.) Emotions are here to, I’ll say, enhance the quality of your time here.
They are tools and its up to you to use them properly.
3.) Some are, some arent. Has to do with the “Objective World” and
“Subjective World” I described earlier.
Illuminator:
First a personal question. Why did you choose the screen name you did? I
know, it should be obvious, given the definition, but I’ve practiced quite a
bit of magic. The reason people here thought you were referring to
“Illuminati” bloodlines was, in fact, because your selected name implies
that notion, much in the same way you ascertained that spelling was
inconsequential because man was intelligent enough to know what you
meant. Words and numbers have magic that relies heavily on just that
notion, thus, if you are from the bloodlines, I assume you have some reason
for the name you selected.
Second: What kind of things could you point out in history that (nonspecific
bloodlines) have done that would, in your family’s eyes, be deemed as
“Evil”? Evil is generally a very subjective word. What is the definition, from
your perspective, of what is deemed “evil” and “good” ways? I mean,
someone out there views mass genocide of the earth’s population as a
necessary evil, while another may look at it as just evil, and yet another may
see it as a good thing.
When I say “evil” I am referring to what other people call it. Hatred, War,
Poverty, Lies, Racism, ect. These are generally regarded, in the opinion of
the general public, as “evil”. And I, and others like me, dont think any of it
is evil, just tools.
Q: Please don’t bother replying to people that are questioning the validity of
this. I think we can all decide for ourselves what’s true and whats not.
1.-If we are to be inspired to find our purpose, what methods and direction
should we be looking in?
3.- Within your hierarchy, it’s been alluded to that again, this supreme
being, has commanded specific rules that must be followed. Why are there
rules, and why would knowledge have to be withheld from anyone?
2a.) For some it is passed down from generation to generation. For others,
it is made clear in a few subtle ways.
3.) The rules can be known by all who wish to, but only after a period of
“enlightenment”. People know the rules subconciously, they just choose to
disobey them.
Q: A. When you say Bloodlines – do you mean the one that was proven that
all U.S. presidents except for one are all related to the same British King?
Or are you talking about ET bloodlines?
B. What is the nature of Evil? Who does it serve and what is its ultimate
purpose? Is it the lessons?
D. What will you gain for the information that you are sharing?
E. Can we as individuals bypass the evil bloodline and what they are
imposing on the planet?
F. Can we change the destiny of what the “evil” has planned for us?
G. Does Bloodline relate to DNA activation? If so, do they have some special
powers that we don’t?
B.) “Evil” does not exist in the big picture. Its purpose is to show you what
you are not.
C.) Yes.
D.) Well besides finishing one of my tasks, I will gain the peace of mind
knowing that I did all I could do to benifit the souls who were ready to
receive what I was attempting to give them.
E.) To a certain extent yes. You know most of all the “negative” things that
are being done, why do you actively participate in them? Example: You are
aware of how fraudulent the banking systems are. Why do people continue
to support them by having a bank account?
F.) “Good” and “Evil” work towards the same goal, just on the opposite ends
of the spectrum, so the answer is no.
G.) No special powers are awarded for having a certain type of blood.
2.) If you want to do anything, moving nearer to the equator (Think south
america) would be a good option. But really, what does it matter anyway?
Do you think you are going to “live” forever? This is not your “Home”.
Q: I am not going to buy into this 100% yet. I do agree that the OP is
keeping his answeres very vague. However, lets play for a second that this
may very well be the real deal. Someone who has the know and the ability to
answer our questions. So here goes OP. Here are my questions.
*Are we, the human race and its governments, headed for another world
war in the next say 10 years?*
That is all I have at the moment. Hopefully this is what you have stated in
previous posts as, the right question. Thank you for your time!
A: I am not asking you to “buy” anything. Take what you want from what I
am saying, discard the rest..but isnt that what you are going to do anyway?
1.) Most likely, never. Not only would it be counterproductive, but, believe it
or not, the general population is not ready to come to terms with that
knowledge.
Albiet while others are not so keen about a repeat ‘hidden hand’ post, i see
this does serve me an opportunity to ask some questions which i never got
to ask your associate.
First of all, are you part of the same embodiment (group) that stems from
the ancient lucifer group, or quetzacotl, alternatively would it be possible
you could provide more information on said group.
Third, why is the coming harvest necessary and what purpose does it serve
to the reptilians, plus it was previously stated by HH that the harvest will
propel humankind into the 4th dimension, if that is the case, how do you
explain the fact that people are believing we’re headed to the 5th.
Finally, do you have any association with the Galactic Federation of Light
whom are apparently nothing more than advanced-biomorphed reptiles.
A: 1.) No I am not of neither of those group souls, nor “Yahweh”. As for the
more information part, of what practical use is it to you?
2.) No.
3.) It is necessary because those of you who are ready to “go to the next
level” need to continue your journey. And not all of “humankind” will be
going anywhere, infact most of you will be staying in this dimension. As for
people believing they are going to the 5th, they are misinformed. Nobody
skips a level.
4.) I am not associated with them, nor have I ever been contacted by them.
Q: Hello Illuminator. I appreciate you Taking the Time to Answer the less
well thought out Questions that Some of my Brothers and Sisters ask. I
would also like to Apologize for the Rudeness directed at you by some of the
Less Enlightened. I don’t feel that they are entirely to Blame for their
Skepticism though. As a People, we have been faced with far too many Lies
to take anything at face value.
Now, as for my Questions, I will ask no more than 3three3 in a Single post
In respect for the Power of Trinity.
2) Can you Suggest a Method to better balance the “Seven Sins” with the
“Seven Virtues” Spoken of in the New Testament?
Thank you in advance for Answering my Questions and Any others you are
Capable of Answering without Undue Risk. I must say, this Game, although
sometimes Dangerous for those involved, is Truly fun to play.
3.) That is the way it is designed, to “test” ones faith in oneself. Are you
going to “follow the leader” or are you going to “be the leader”.
Q: Hidden Hand was genuine. I intuitively knew this. If you are who you
say you are then I sincerely thank you for the opportunity granted once
more. Some highly relevant questions regarding this end cycle.
Will the false flag ‘alien invasion’ be after the pole shift event to help usher
in the new world order agenda?
Do you agree the Mayan End Cycle calendar really ends in 2011, not 2012?
I understand these are confronting questions and I hope you are within
your bounds to disclose openly and honestly. I realise these events will
prove highly relevant in the near future. Please ignore the negativity. It is to
be expected unfortunantely. I am sure you are evolved enough to not take it
personally.
Thanks in advance.
A: 1.) I’ll put it this way, they are not killing you and they do less damage
than you think.
5.) No, and I would be more concerned about the things that are important.
Q: Ok.. I’m wondering about bipolar disorder, would you say that generally
bipolar people are more creative than others? If so, why is that.
I’ve been wondering this for a while too, is cannabis good for you as long as
you don’t overconsume(too much of everything is bad)?
I’m pretty much done with this life already, been burned out for years.. this
“game” is played out.. and my conscious self never signed no deal.
I want out.
A: 1.) There are alot of people who are misdiagnosed with that “disease”.
And why are the ones who truely “have it” more creative? The same reason
that when a person loses his sight, his hearing becomes more keen. You lose
something, but it is compensated for in another way.
2.) Ok, the best way I can put it, so that you might be able to understand it,
is this: A “glitch” in the “game”. Same thing for people born with
“Downsyndrome”.
3.) Almost all of it is “bad” in the general sense, but everyone is different. If
you become more “stable” and experience little to no “side effects” then
whatever you took is right for you, if not get a new medication.
8.) No. Learn your lessons and learn them now, taking your life will solve
nothing. Life is “sacred”, charish yours.
9.) Just look at your mindset. Everything is as you see it because you choose
to see it that way. Have you ever “looked on the bright side” of things? Be
thankful for where your at, because there are many in far “worse” situations
than you. Its not what happens to you that is the problem, its how you
choose to react to it.
11.) This is not a “spiritual rat race”, take as long as you need.
Q: -1-
a) WHO ARE the “Bloodlines”? If you won’t give me names, tell me how
they control the world.
b) Are they the rich business tycoons who we hardly know anything about?
c) Do they influence world events and have control of our political leaders?
-2-
-3-
a) Why are we here? I am aware that you said you cannot tell us, because it
would break a “law”. Fine, but can you tell us how we can find out?
b) Is our purpose to work in and support a hierachical society or
infrastructure that only “Bloodlines” can see/understand? Metaphorically,
like individual parts of a giant machine; or stones in a pyramid?
-4-
a) Why do we need “help” from the “Bloodlines”?
b) How are they “helping” us? Are they helping us by keeping us subservant
to them and not asking ourselves important questions like why we are here?
c) What do they want from us? What do they want us to do?
-5-
a) Is the Swine Flu Pandemic/Mass Vaccination a form of biological
warfare or control?
b) Is a method of population reduction?
-6-
a) Are there such things a Extra Terrestrials?
b) If so, what is their purpose?
c) Are the “Bloodlines” in contact with them? Is any other human
organization, for that matter?
-7-
a) What is going to happen in October 2011?
b) Will there be a pole shift during (or beginning) in that point in time?
-8-
a) Is something going to happen in the near future that you are on this site
preparing us for?
b) How much time do we have if that is in fact the case?
That’s all I have for now – my next set of questions will depend on your
responses to this set. Take as much time you need in answering them, but
please do respond to each and every one of them. I apologize if I have
offended you in the first part of this post.
4a.) If you didn’t have the help, you would never grow.
4b.) By showing you what you are not.
4c.) To see what you are. To “evolve”.
5a.) “Swine Flu” is pretty much in the same boat as “Bird Flu”, you do
remember what “Bird Flu” was don’t you…hype.
5b.) There is no plan of population reduction and/or control.
6a.) If you mean beings that are not from this planet, yes.
6b.) Their purposes are different. They vary from “species” to “species”
6c.) Yes, to a certain extent. and to my knowledge no other “organization”,
although it is fully possible.
8a.) Yes.
So far I see no grounds for any antagonistic posts to this thread or it’s OP.
I would remind everyone that this thread is the property of ATS
but it’s quality has been left in our hands. I’m no mod but some of
you are ridiculous.
Illuminator
1. Are you done answering questions.
2a.) They dont carry alot of influence as far as the “big picture” goes.
2b.) No I can’t, but don’t believe all that is said regarding people who can
“Trace Lineages”.
Q: If it is true that you have an answer that I myself do not have, then
please answer this question Illuminator.
A: It acknowledges all.
Thank you.
A: 1.) Genetics have little to do with, “spirituality”. Only with ruling over
this world.
2.) Well, I wouldnt do that if I were you because its not true. Also it
borderlines a “psychiatric disease” called Schizophrenia. Although there are
“Two Worlds” in this place, both are equal in their “existance”. Those you
experience are apart the “Objective” World and that which you “think”,
“believe” or “perceive” is apart of your “Inner” World. Both of these
“worlds” interlock to create your “reality”.
2a.) If you polarize it into “black and white”, not very accurate at all. In this
dimension, it doesnt relate a whole lot, but as you “go up the ladder”,
everything becomes, One.
2b.) I cant and you wont find anyone that can. It will all “make sense” as
you “work your way up the ladder of creation.”
2c.) It seems you want control. I cant, and wont give it to you.
2d.) You have to reach a certain point in your development, and have a
VERY high level of concentration to channel your thoughts. Sound easy? If
it was, everyone would be doing it.
You are assuming people you do not know are (metephorically) imprisoned.
Thats a big assumption given there are 6 billion individual human beings
on the planet each with their own unique perception of the world.
You said to someone “but you ask the wrong questions”.. (I love interview
with a vampire!) .. but rather than getting us to pander to you and play 200
questions.. couldn’t you just save us some time and tell us the specific
answers we need to know? The answers you have given so far are vague and
cyptic and do not fulfill the opportunity you claimed to be offering.
A: That “Box” is where your “teachings” and “learnings” have brought you
thus far. Conditioning, it works just as well on the mind as it does the body.
If you could please hold back on the questions, so I can catch up, it would
be appreciated.
Take care.
DAY 4:
Q; You mean you’re here to help us in the same way that Hidden_Hand
said he and his House are?
A: Ultimately, yes.
Q: Also, can you tell about magic? In this world of ours, where we are
supposedly bound within rules, how does magic exist?
A: 1.) What I can tell you is that “Magic” does exist, but that does not mean
that you should go meddling with it. You dont personally need it and it
wont help you do what your here to do.
Q: Can you please tell me about the significance of dreams? Using dreams –
can one get answers to a few questions we are seeking and become clearer
of our individual purpose?
A: I already answered your first question in an earlier post, and dreams can
make you more “clearer” of your purpose, but it is unecessary. You can
figure that out while you are “awake” and let me make this perfectly clear:
You, unconciously, know why you are here, but you just dont, conciously
(for now atleast), “remember” what it is.
Q: According to you and your perspective, how does the development of our
souls in this duality play affect you and yours in the development of your
soul?
A: They don’t. I am here for a slighty different reason than you are. I got
through this “phase” a long time ago, and though I had to “relive” the basic
polarity complex that is this planet, I learned relatively quickly why I was
here, and, so I am completing my mission.
2.) Yes.
Q: If what you need to do is not done by Dec 2012, will you not have failed,
or are you do be in this 3rd density for an unspecified time?
I believe in God,but I still don’t know why we are here! I can accept there
are some things we may just not be able to know,and I’m okay with that!
Truth is,I’d be very skeptical of anyone claiming to know…that doesn’t
mean I’m not curious about the answers they would give!
A: I am not asking you to accept my answers. You have the answers inside
of you; all you have to do is look. Once you figure out why you are here, it
will become very obvious to you and in reality it is obvious. When searching
for something it is easy to overlook that which has been right before your
eyes the whole time.
A: Because of the challenge and the desire to “prove oneself”. You are, in all
acutality, “playing” a “game” with yourself and eventually you will win.
First off, despite what you have been told, meat is not a natural substance
to be used in “fueling” your “body”, why do you think you consistently
deceive your taste buds with your different mix of spices and seasonings?
And to continue, what would you, intuitively, rather eat, a freshly picked
fruit or some freshly deceased road kill. There is a reason why your mind
would choose one over the other and while we are on the subject, Cow’s
Milk or Eggs are not to be consumed naturally either. Vegetarianism
receives a “bad rep” for a reason, mostly by showing radical “PETA”
members. Besides that, who do you think approved the “Food Guide
Pyramid”? Sure the stuff you should be eating is nearer to the bottom of the
pyramid, but which part of the pyramid do you draw your “main course”
from?
If you research properly, you will see that some major “important” human
philosophers, scientists, physicists, and the like, did not consume meat.
There is a reason for that, most of it being ethical but do not mistake, it did
help them accomplish what they did. But seriously, have you ever even
thought to check where you meat comes from, how it is processed, and how
those animals are really treated. Some of you would be shocked, but the less
developed would adopt a “I don’t care” type of attitude.
That said, not being a Vegetarian doesn’t affect you much spiritually here,
but it comes into play in the later “levels”. Physically and mentally are two
different stories. Do your own research and you’ll see what I am talking
about.
Q: You say that you’re the good guy here to help, so if you’re the good guy
who’s the bad guy?
A: There are no “Good guys” or “Bad guys”. Just beings playing the roll that
they are assigned.
Q: Do you believe that we only reincarnate into the future, and not into the
past. Can we in your opinion reincarnate into past(by our understanding of
time in our 3d bodies now) bodies.
A: Again, learn who you are, where you are, and why you are here.
A: In my “dictionary”:
Soul- An entity who is apart of the Supreme One, but for a time, is or has
participated in the “Game of Creation”, no matter what role it plays.
A: Again there are issues afoot mostly regarding to what I have termed the
“Objective World” and the “Inner World” but I would still definitely the
latter…it really does depend of Which Symbols of Power you are refering to.
Q: Does a Majority of The Outer World (Terra) have to Forgive you or can
You be Forgiven by A More Dominant Being?
A: Proper eating habits will help you mentally and physically, but not much
spiritually. And fasting is only perceived as helping you, mentally and
physically, because you have stopped poisoning yourself.
A: Like I stated before, it is not in your best interest to look outside yourself
for advice of a Spiritual nature. Even if you did find what you are looking
for, you are less likely to put it into practice. Knowing is one this, but doing
(more accurately: Being) is another story. To “Practice what you preach” is
hard to do if you werent the one preaching. Leave the physical outer world,
and go towards the spiritual inner world.
A: Not only do I mean to imply that, I will state it directly: The Bloodline
are not reptilian. Icke is going up the wrong tree.
A: The only reason I am here is to help you see what you are.
A: I work directly with your kind in general on a more personal level. I drop
clues to those who I come into contact with and ask me about my
demeanor. I can be called a “counselor” of sorts. You’d know what I mean if
we were to cross paths.
A: The axial tilts of a planet have little to do with anything meaningful. And
no, it does not have an effect on the human condition
A: No.
A: No, but to answer the first to, being chipped is actual a reality but for
pratical purposes only. Dont concern yourself with it though, if the time
comes when you have to make the choice to “be chipped” or not (regardless
of the consequences), simply do as you wish.
A: Wow I wasn’t going to respond to anymore posts of this sort but this is a
very interesting statement indeed…but alas, I am genuinely confused so
maybe you can “enlighten” me. When did I say, or even allude, to the idea
that “I know everything”? Please tell me because I really would like to
know.
You do have the right idea though, because anyone who would dare make
such a statement is a liar and a hoax, but I did not and I am neither.
Q: So we should:
A: Really? Because, except for that last part, I stated quite the opposite. And
I believe explained why you should not do the last statement in an earlier
response. What are you seeing now?
Q: I don’t really want to be Cryptic, but once you reach a Certain point in
Life and Experience enough then You step into ‘it’ Big and join the Inside
Circle of the Cosmic Joke. Kinda like a movie that I ‘Watched’ that came out
a while ago. Anyway, I’m not going to Forsake my own Happiness and that
of the Ones that I Love just to Directly Answer someones’ Question and
Neither will the OP. Believe me I want nothing more than to share with
Everyone my Intimate understanding of Karma’s workings, but Our ‘SoL’ R
Binary and will only let me define what isn’t. I really Hope that helps.
A: Exactly.
Don’t worry about it, i was only joking, i know about losing passwords and
emails also. You did not have to explain anything to me, though. Its just
that you both sound so in tune, if you know what i mean.
Q: Are you still a part of the Luciferian Bloodline? If so, has there always
been a positive faction or was the positive side introduced sometime
recently? If you are not part of the Luciferian Bloodline, when was your
bloodline introduced here on Earth?
A: I am not apart of “Lucifer”. There are a few like me on this planet, and
we do not all have the same “Bloodline”.
A: There are already beings awaiting those who will be coming to 4th
Density, and a few that will be coming to help out there also, so nobody will
be needed to “accompany” anyone, although beings like me might decide to
go along to.
Q: who will accompany the ‘lukewarms’ and provide them with the cataylst
while they repeat the cycle?
A: Does it matter? You most likely won’t even notice the switch anyway.
Q: What kind of changes (physical and spiritual) can we expect to take place
as we approach the coming Harvest? How soon will the physical changes
(i.e., earthquakes, tsunamis, extreme weather) start to take place?
A: Well, as far as physcial goes, you’ll see some dramatic climate changes,
raging storms, ect. basically what you are hearing about not only 5-10x
worse.
How soon? It really is of little value to you. Do not be concerned about that
which is happening around you, work on yourself.
A: That’s a funny question but they will stay here. There will be animals in
4th Density though if thats what you wish to know.
But perception wise, well they show you what you arent, as opposed to what
you are.
A: Yes.
With that last question answered, that is the end of my time today.
Good Night.
DAY 5:
All the ones that portain to “Alien Invasion”, “2012 Apocalypse”, “Swine
Flu” and the like. Most others are completely irrelavent to your lives
personally.
Now, that said, I will answer that question again, and right:
Which subjects hold merit?
Only the ones that hold a practical value, not theoretical. If it promotes
Fear, Terror, or “doom” do not promote it or even believe it. This “World”
was not meant to “end” the way most are describing.
Q: Let’s say a farmer plants a crop of corn, waters it and cares for it for a
season, then rips the resultant corn from the stalk and eats it. From the
perspective of the corn, is the farmer a good guy or a bad guy?
Though I’ll grant that I hope this is not a good analogy for our particular
situation.
First off Corn does not have a “perspective”. Its sole purpose is to be used as
“fuel” in the “body” of whatever eats it. While it is “conscious” to a certain
degree, it is nothing like the “conscious” you, or I, experience. Think of it
like this, in a modern day video game, more specifically an RPG; there are
certain items in place whose sole purpose is to benefit the “Character” or
“Player” of the game. Say if, while playing the said RPG, you acquire a
baseball bat, and you use it on an “enemy” and it breaks in two. Does that
mean the person who broke the bat is “bad”? No, because the baseball bats
sole purpose was to be used in the “game” to benefit the player, so really
there is no harm done here. There is a good reason why fruits and
vegetables do not have Central Nervous Systems, Nerve Endings, or a
Brain. While it was not happened to me personally, I am relatively sure that
that being eaten “alive” is not a peaceful or pleasant occurrence, hence the
reason why certain things are lacking in certain areas of their
existance…and you would be surprise to know how closely our “reality”
resembles modern day video games.
Q: I wondered about the soul status of animals also. Where do they fit in?
A: They are “conscious” to an extent, some more than others, but arent here
for the same reason you are.
They are here to act as an early Catalyst, if you want to develop your
Compassion before the 4th Density. Why do you think people get so upset
when the see a suffering animal? Compassion.
Now to mention, if you look beyond the prisons called “Zoo’s”, most are
pretty awesome looking and acting.
Q: That may be, but if it’s truly our choice, then couldn’t we choose to not
have a bad guy?
A: Of course you can, and it is highly recommended that you dont try to be
a “Bad Guy”, its counterproductive to why you are here and will ensure you
being here for quite a long time.
P.S.: all of my edits are for spelling purposes only. I have seen that “you
people” place high emphisis on spelling, but it is not possible for me to
answer as fast as possible without suffering some spelling errors, as I am
sure you make the same mistakes. The thoughts come as fast as I am typing
them. Sorry for any misspellings.
A: Planning and caring are one thing, incessant preoccupation and worring
is another. You do realise that these things will happen regardless of what
you “plan” right? Even so, the fact still remains that the things which you
are worrying about have not even come to fruitation and you have more
important things to be doing at the moment. I suggest, yet again, instead of
focusing on the “Objective (“Outter”) World” you should put more
emphasis and work into your “Subjective (“Inner”) World”.
Q: Should we plan and make sure the plan follows or should we just go with
the flow and not worry about a thing?
A: Yes but, as you surely realise, plans never work out as planned.
Especially when you “forget” the plan once you have gotten to your
destination.
Q: Is there such a thing as failing or not meeting our full potential while we
exist as what we are now?
A: Yes. It happens all the time, but you dont need to meet your “full
potential” to “pass this level”, and most won’t meet that potential anyway.
Q: How do you equate the relation between free will and determinism?
A: What an important question, but it will never happen. If you did, there
would be “World Peace” and thats not what this place was designed for.
There is a reason why all “World Peace” demostrations, arguments and
declarations fall on deaf ears.
Q: Do we have an expiration date set for the vessel that we are currently
utilizing?
Q: If you see the future, how should you act to make it happen
A: No, but some would love for you to believe that. You know you have a
choice, even if other tell you that you do not. Who do you place your trust
in, yourself or others?
Q: Do you see capitalism being maintaned for many life times on Earth? Do
you know about any other political-economical systems which have not yet
been explored by humans in a social or ideological sense? If so, could you
give details about such system(s)?
A: Yes
Q: Will you now stay longer to answer the questions in the queue,no offence
to the people that had there questions answered straight away but there a
plenty still waiting for ansers
A: No. I can only be here until Tomorrow then it is done, sorry. I will
attempt, tomorrow, to only answer the most “cause-furthering” questions
and skip all the rest. You people are good question askers, a very insightful
bunch..
Q: How can I make the best of this experiential opportunity? What is the
BIG tip that you would give to improve our experience here (besides
knowing and acting upon who we are, where we are and why we are here)?
A: I’ll put it like this, and its very simple: Always attempt to do the “right
thing”. Don’t come back with some “Oh what’s the right thing!?!?”, Why?
because you know what it is.
Q: What technique or method you would suggest for us to figure out all that
we need to know?
A: Freedom.
Q: What is the one book that you would take to a deserted island?
Q: Who is the greatest personality that ever put his feet on Earth?
A: Ultimately, no.
A: Yes.
A: The plan is not to “overtake” anything. I hope your not tuning into that
Icke guy or the Laura Knight-Jadczyk character.
A: Making choices.
Q: Why does the world seem to have got real crazy in the last decade or so?
A: It’s always been “crazy”, you just havent been around in enough time
periods to notice.
Q: In light of your question to us, will Biden become president within the
next year?
A: No, as far as I know of, you stay where you are to accomplish the tasks
that you are here to do.
A: A part of you always does, but you consciously forget when you come
back (assuming you have not “beat the level”).
Q: Are you and your “family” just a bunch of crazy psychopaths with tons of
money, planting all these horrendous conspiracy theories about yourself so
that once sheeple wake from their stupor they fall into paranoia?
Q: You said you hope it doesn’t because he is a good hypnotist, what is your
interest or agenda here?
A: It runs along the same lines of all “End time senarios”. Most people in
the western hemisphere associate, what is happening, with their respective
religions. The truth is contained within Sacred Texts, as within yourself, but
in the case of the texts it is hidden in a forest
of darkness while inside yourself, you hide it from yourself (with a little
Catalyst help of course.)
Q: ome Buddhism from you, Illuminator13? Interesting!
A: The latter.
Q: if you are here to help, why not tell us all you can without crossing those
boundaries which you are scared (sorry might not be the right word) of.
Q: So H Hand was Bloodline, and you are a walk in, can you explain the
circumstances around your walk in?
A: Physically, yes.
A: Ok I think I understand what you are asking so let me make things clear
and simple: Beyond 5th Density you dont have to have a “body” if you dont
want to, but it is an option. I was a spirit who took the task to come here
and help you out. although I could be likened to most of those who dwell
here, I “woke up” rather quickly and have been doing my task every since.
A: There is nothing unfair about Karma, you get what you put out. You can
take responsibility for what you did and recieved or you can play the “Why
does this always happen to me?” victim role.
A: Because they dont seek understand and then they dont “level up” so in
their next life they are repaid for what they did and they cry “poor me”, but
they can choose to make things better by doing what that are here to do.
Q: And when we are programmed with an instinctual nature which compels
us to create bad karma for ourselves (plus the negative influence of our
culture)?
A: Your not, but you are conditioned to believe so. And they “negative
influences” are there to show you what you are not.
Intent is imperative and there is no reason, not matter what you do, what
happened to you and how you feel, to habor a negative intent towards
anyone or anything. Sure, accidents do happen and they do harm your
record, but they are less damaging if you meant well and did not preplan
whatever you did.,
Corrupted or not it often says exactly what you’ve just said, “outrightly”
created by “the bloodline” or not. Correct? And, fellow observer; belief in
reincarnation or the cessation of the cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth
due to enlightenment is a dogma, no matter if it’s you, an organised
religion, or a silent conglomeration of 13 foot desert cactuses saying it
A: For the most part. And I meant Dogma in the sense of a group or
“congregation” type of agreeance, as in a group of people coming together
to organize what is “right” and “wrong”.. think Council of Nicea.
Q: Is this why we are only required to settle 51% of our karmic debts?
Q: Is the only way out of our karma to ascend, or can we choose another
path, and can a higher spiritual being choose to take on our karmic debts
for us?
A: As far as I know, bettering yourself and making better choices is the only
way. And no “higher spiritual being” would choose to relieve you of your
debts, you have to take responsibility.
Q: Assuming that you are familiar with the concept of the WANDERERS,
are there any examples of sixth density negatively polarized wanderers in
our historical past, considering ours to be a third density world?
Q: What is the best way to recover from severe depression, to the point
where the person can’t even feel most feelings anymore?
Q: I take it that you don’t want to answer my question, or have you missed
it by a chance? <– now is that an question?
My original question was not really about what you like about the person
of his, but rather the message.
A: I am either not that far into the questions yet or I missed it.
Q: I’ve invested a lot of what I am into loving and living for my family in
this “reality”, as that is what makes me happiest. Can I stay attached to
their souls? As I dig them quite a bit.
A: Of course you can. Emotion is here for a reason, if you werent supposed
to care or love people on this planet, the emotion would be here.
A: It all depends on how much you have told them. They have to learn on
their own and they will, in their own time. Keep it simple and dont go into
detail. If your seen a “Cryptic” or “Evasive” then it is good (Like me earlier
in this thread basically) because you know why you do what you do. If they
want detail, I would tell them to go beyond the superficial into their “Inner
World.”
A Game because if you look closely..well you’ll get the picture. The
Bloodlines go along this path, because they are on the “up and up” and they
know who they arem what they are here to do, why they are here to do it.
So, while your at it, why not have “fun” with it?
Tomorrow will be the last day I can answer questions, so I will answer those
which I deem to be of, more or less, importance.
DAY 6:
Q: I know for a fact that some of the replies posted on this thread are
untruths.
Some of the things said can be picked up from anywhere, just read a few
posts on some of the threads on ATS and you get the general idea…any fool
could purport to being an illuminati / informed being / spiritual being in
human guise or anything else for that matter.
Furthermore though there are some powerful bloodlines, they aren’t the
deciders, just slightly higher up puppets on the puppet scale..they too are
shielded from the most sacred knowledge and power.
One would presume posters on ATS would be more wary of such pretence
given the nature of conspiracy theories and the fact that most are / should
be looking for reality in very real terms.
A: I really do not have time for this verbal swordfight, but it would seem
that I must.
Third Statement: You are correct, there are some powerful Bloodlines, who
are not the “deciders” (to use your term), I could have told you that though.
Fourth Statement: Again you are shifting the conversation to these vague
“other threads”. You are subtlety implying that I am doing exactly what the
“stated” (even though it was not) threads OP did. Now, I have stated that I
was using two ISP addresses, and the moderators surely know, and I have
no need for multiple accounts, which they would know if I had any. I am in
full control of my “ego” but I seriously doubt you are.
Fifth Statement: You are clearly attempting to persuade the readers into
your non-productive line of thinking by indirectly stating that if they do not
agree with what you are saying they are not “wary of such pretence given
the nature of conspiracy theories and the fact that most are / should be
looking for reality in very real terms.” Do you put out propaganda for a
living? Perhaps U.S. Army Psychological Operations (PsyOps)?
Q: You mentioned the supreme one before. (Again) Who and/or what is the
supreme one?
2nd line.
A: The One who created this “game” and the One who you will be returning
to once you complete it.
Q: How would a person know that they have accomplished all their lessons
for this cycle?
A: You wouldnt know until after you “died” or until the Great Harvest
comes.
A: There are some, but I would really rather tell you to look to your “Inner”
self for guidence. Many call it your “conscience”
A: Not if you do not overindulge, let it take over your life, or allow it to
dictate your choices. Use temperance.
A: I would not call it a prison. You chose to come here, to develop yourself.
You did no “horrible things”
A: There are Octaves. If you complete this one you can either, be reunited
with the Supreme One or go on the the next adventure, or Octave.
Q: Will suicides be punished in any other way than just losing one
incarnation?
A: All Im going to say is that life is “Sacred”. Never “take yourself out of the
game”
Q: Are we all alien souls from different planets who chose to represent and
take back our lessons to them or are we taking it back to the source?
A: No.
Q: Has Military (or elite) time traveled using alien technology to our past
and changed the course of history to their own benefit?
A: Not to say they havent toyed with the idea, but the answer is no.
A: That is exactly what “Heavens Gate” thought, you witness what became
of that. No, dying is not necessary if you go in the Harvest.
A: Don’t.
A: Yes. And I can’t be positive about that because the hypnotist could also
create “false memories”.
Q: I’m doing my best to eliminate any negative actions towards others. Not
because I’m afraid of a God or Hell, but simply because It’s the right thing
to do and the right path towards a better life for the poeple surrounding me.
A: Im sorry, I’m moving fast. But if you really think and follow that last
statement, then you are doing fine.
Q: Is it logical to assume that a human living on earth during this time has
been reincarnating as a human onto earth for quite a while now because
he/she has still not learned the lessons necessary to ascend to a fourth
density?
A: Yes.
Q: If “thought” is “creation”, and this creation affects every aspect of our
reality, then is it possible that a vast amount of like-minded souls could
change the present reality as we know it?
A: Possible, yes.
A: Not if you havent figured out and live according to the lessons you were
supposed to learn.
Q: ATS was created for people already thinking outside the box.
A: No, they just got outside of “One” box, so to speak. I am sure most of
them are still in a “Box”.
Q: I also want to know, can one repair upon past negative actions in this
lifetime? Is self judgment and repent enough? For example, every time I
stole, I add to the tally X amount of lifetimes.
A: In sense, no. You will have to pay for what you did to work off the
“negative karma”. But do not continue to make the same mistakes.
Q: When does the polarity dilema end? When we reunite with the source?
A: As you “move up” polarity plays less and less a role. And when you “beat
the game”.
Q: I just read a thread by hidden-hand and it looks practically the same and
probably the same person.
I get the feeling this person really yearns power and craves elitist status.
Anyone who knows masonic law for example would know that it’s a hoax
and those further up will know for certain that ‘the Creator’ hasn’t
authorised such a blatant attempt at misleading well meaning truth seekers
on the path to enlightenment.
There are truths which most people know in some of these replies though
unlike hidden_hand ”there will be a new currency in end of 2008 /early
2009” prediction is being more vague.
2.) That just goes to show how misguided your “feelings’ are. I want neither
of those things.
3.) Really? Are you a Mason? What degree? Have you no respect, why did
you not capitalize Masonic Law?
4&5.) Apparently you don’t “know” as much as you think you do, or you
would have realized predicting the future 100% is not possible. While
nobody should attempt to “predict” the future at all, if you know the true
nature of this Galaxies time, it is possible to give a more or less accurate
snapshot of whats going to happen, but not the exact dates. He was going
off his own knowledge and maybe if he was “higher up” he could have given
you the predictions you obviously were looking for and desire, but he was
not.
Q: When I meditate I call my “dead” father and daughter and get a HUGE
energy wave come through me and my skin is “on fire” and an
overwhelming feeling of love.Can you tell me what is happeneing pls,is it
them ,is it my higherself or is it something else alltogether.
Many thanks
A: That could be dangerous. I would try to make contact with the “dead”.
While it is a possiblity you reached them, it is more likely your message was
“intercepted”. I cannot be certain, but it is what most likely happened.
Q: Illuminator, are you part of the group that H_H speaks of? Are there
many groups? (Does it even matter)? Care to elaborate on anything else he
said? It seems in line with what you have been saying so far.
2.) Yes.
3.) No.
Q: What do you know about Supreme master ching hai, and the quan yin
method
Q: regarding diet:
Q: H_H talked about the “Great Harvest” coming soon. Is this the only time
we “souls” are able to “move up the ladder” or is it possible after every
death?
Q: i would love to believe the op but i have some trust issues but i will take
in what u have said but im going to keep a open mind about it
Q: Does the practice of yoga have any spiritual benefits? For instance, being
able to connect with our spiritual side better.
A: See the truth is inside you. A “Soul mate” is, generally speaking, a
romanticized concept applied to a happy relationship. In reality, you have
thousands, if not ten of thousands, of “soul mates” (people you would be
extremely “compatible” with). You choose the qualities of a person you are
attracted to, and there will be thousands with those same qualities, which
you would find out if you “dated” a lot of people. That’s why when “soul
mates” die, the person typically will tend to meet another partner (If they
allow themselves to).
Q: Anyway, I’m not going to Forsake my own Happiness and that of the
Ones that I Love just to Directly Answer someones’ Question and Neither
will the OP
Can you explain what that means? How will you forsake your own
happiness by directly answering someone’s question?
A: Ok, I will state that “Karma” has a funny way of getting back at you when
you break a law. While I do choose what I feel, if I go around breaking the
Laws, things can get pretty difficult for me. Besides that, if I did break the
Laws, I would be doing something contrary to my being, and that could
cause me some “disturbances”.
Q: Is there cures for diseases such as type one diabetes that aren’t publicly
available?
A: The only person who can “trigger” the advancement of oneself, is oneself.
A: That situation wouldn’t happen. Most likely, if thats really what you
remember, you have False Memories.
Like I stated in an earlier reply, there are people who can tell you the truth
but you are less likely to accept it as such if you do not see it for yourself.
You have to have a “Aha!” moment so to speak. Now I will say this, do not
accept my information on the premise that I am correct. Ponder what has
been said here, take what you resonates and discard the rest. The same
method could be used in other “Sacred Texts” and manuscripts although,
depending on how “developed” you are, you may get things confused and
accept the wrong parts.
A: Help others, yes. Wake them, no. They must do it for themselves, but it is
fine to “drop hints”.
Q: Will humanity ever grow up (say withing the next few decades)?
A: The things you have listed have gone astray of their origins and original
purpose. They have been “commericalized” for the general population so to
speak. I wouldn’t put much value on whats being pushed out, on these
subjects, now.
A: Ultimately, yes.
Q: Why do you suggest not using “Mantras?” Do these actually work but do
so by inciting the assistance from demonic entities or entities that do not
have our best interest at heart?
Q: Why do you and Hidden Hand capitalize certain letters? Is this some
kind of ritual?
A: No.
Q: Why do many groups and companies use common symbols like the all-
seeing eye and the triangle? Do these symbols help manifest success for
such groups?
Q: Is the individual who uses the handle ET_MAN truly in contact with
extra-terrestrials that give him correct information?
A: I am seen the thread topic but I have not read its content, so I really
couldnt tell you.
Q: Also, will we know when we have completed what we need to here? And
if not will we be just returning to try again?
A: 1.) No.
2.) Yes.
A: Yes.
Q: For one that is in service to others, in your opinion what would be the
best methods of showing otherselves what they are without using
manipulation, or breaking the laws?
A: Your actions.
Q: In your opinion, what are the most beneficial ways of dealing with an
otherself that tries to manipulate you without diminishing positive
polarity?
Q: In your opinion, is it a better idea to pursue these goals alone or seek the
help of a clairvoyent psychic, or past life regression hypnosis?
Q: Ok, OP. What role do the incarnates play in the big picture?
A: Different roles for different players. Cryptic, I know but your question is
too general.
Q: Are you familiar with the 11:11 time prompt phenomenon and if so does
it have any meaning? If so, what is the meaning for someone who
experiences this regularly?
A: Don’t do it.
A: You could, but its not going to happen. “World Peace” is not a possibility
here, and its not supposed to be. This “World” is more a “One on One”
ordeal than humanity as a whole…work on yourself.
A: Don’t hit them when they do wrong, for one. Now, unless you plan on
“home schooling” them and never letting them experience the “negativity”,
they will be influenced. When they get older, it is their job to “conquer” the
“darkness” and set out on what they are here to do.
A: Don’t hit them when they do wrong, for one. Now, unless you plan on
“home schooling” them and never letting them experience the “negativity”,
they will be influenced. When they get older, it is their job to “conquer” the
“darkness” and set out on what they are here to do.
Q: two questions:
what is the best question we could ask?
what should we be concerned about?
Q: For some reason I’ve met most people during some difficult time in their
lives, and I am always compelled to help them thru, they on the other hand
feel they can open up to me from the very start, and I stay around untill
things are good. When I notice the person is open enough to hear, I convey
the importance of contemplation and reason, on what a wonderful
playground we have at our disposal and that possibilities are endless. Some
hear it and some others chuckle. I fell it is right, but would like your input
please, is this the main deal why we are here?
A: Very interesting. If what you say is really the case, you may infact be here
for the same reason I am, even if your not fully aware of it. I would like to
speak with you more, but that is not going to be possible.
Q: I am facing a dilemma now, the world is straying from reason, and a
selfish attitude is the new status quo. This hurts me, day in and day out I
feel like I’m being stabbed thru my 6 senses and empathy. Its also growing
harder every day to avoid the poisons being pumped in our food and
enviroment.
A: Ok, if this is true then I am now pretty certain you are here for a different
reason than the others. Take heart in your endevours and do what you feel
you must, comrad. Show them what they truely are.
Be A Lighthouse, Shining Through The Dark Sea That Is This World, 13.
A: Ok, if this is true then I am now pretty certain you are here for a different
reason than the others. Take heart in your endevours and do what you feel
you must, comrad. Show them what they truely are.
Be A Lighthouse, Shining Through The Dark Sea That Is This World, 13.
A: No, but when your done decide for yourself the truthfullness of my
messages.
Q: What civilization are the ruins along the mid atlantic ridge from?
A: One that you have heard of surely, but does it matter?
Q: Can one beat the level by going to where the others reside?
A: No.
Q: So H Hand was Bloodline, and you are a walk in, can you explain the
circumstances around your walk in?
A: I came here a short time ago because I knew “what time it was” and I
wanted to “help out”.
A: Contemplate what is written, then take what you wish and discard the
rest.
Q: How do we bypass the beliefs of others, they are like security blankets
for people who choose not to think about the important things. More
importantly however is the question, should I even bother with people who
wrap their minds in beliefs?
A: Simply choose to do so. And you should to a certain extent. There is
nothing wrong with showing them what they are, as long as you do try to
“push” the truth onto them. They will resist, as they have been taught to by
their “Gurus”.
Q: This game called life we play, like all games does it have
flaws/bugs/exploits that some people abuse?
Exploits do exist, by the lesser developed, the greedy and the selfish, who
know about the “game” and choose to take actions that only benefit them.
The do get “punshished” for their misdeeds though, so its not a wise thing
to do.
Q: Where does the soul reside, inside the physical hosts we call our bodies
or somewhere else, outside of the body?
Q: What exactly is a brain, since it can die it must live and it needs the body
to live and the body needs the brain, very symbiotic. Also can the soul be
transferred from one physical body to another?
A: Think of the brain as a “video game controller
Q: How does one achieve the full potential? Are there signs or experiences
one should pay attention to?
A: Mostly likely, that won’t happen right now. If you get into the “Higher
Levels” and choose to come back, you can attempt “Master” the previous
levels. Its like a famous video game you probably know of: You dont have to
collect all the stars to beat the game, but if you want to you can “replay”
levels to do so. SM64. I actually love that game btw…off topic, I must keep
focus.
Q: I don’t know for sure but check out the Flower of Life also.
A: Dont believe all of the stuff out there about Sacred Geometry, there are
some distortations.
They want to study it and see if they can produce its effects in a more
“controlled” way.
A: Your soul will always want oneness, but the “ego” (for lack of a better
term) would like to remain an “individual”, which is why you must keep it
in “check”
A: Know what it is, how to identify it and then ignore its attempts when you
recognize them. Reseach “Propaganda” and you’ll get a good idea on what
to do.
Ok my time is just about up. I will be making one more post after this and
then I am gone.
I would like to thank you for your insightful questions, you are a smart
bunch, and I hope you figure out why you are here and live according to its
answers.
If any of you feel like passing this on to other boards and the like, feel free
to do so. It may take some to to collate the answers so if it is too much
trouble, dont worry about it, this will reach who its meant to.
I wish you well in your journey, have fun with it though, life isnt meant to
be serious all the time.
Goodbye
My Task Is Now Complete For Those With Hearts To Seek, Illuminator 13.