MU, he didn't.

According to Church History, Jesus was apparently elevated to the

status of supreme "God" in Judeo-Christianity by the still young and Judaism-
influenced Catholic Church in a similar manner by which the Roman Emperor Claudius
was elevated to the status of a god by pagan Romans. I've forgotten the churchy
name for the process. Apo-something, I think.

I realize there are posters here who don't want to hear that. d'oh! But, when
history speaks, churchy conjecturalists are obliged to shut-up and listen.

I'm not Catholic, so I don't recall whatever RCC council decreed Jesus as "God,"
and I'm not interested enough in the issue to look it up. Nonetheless, more
specific and accurate information than I can offer is available online at many
reputable web sites, particuarly the .edu and non-biased encyclopedia sites.

Author: MagusYanam
Posted: 08/12/2009 10:22 PM

Interesting, Heterodoxus. But I think the question of Jesus' divinity is separate

from that at hand.

'Christ' itself does not mean 'God' - it simply means the Messiah, or the Anointed
One. It is well-established in the Greek Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah;
though I agree that the question of Jesus' divinity was ultimately cemented in a
later doctrinal assertion (namely the dispute between Athanasius and Arius, settled
at the First Council of Nicaea in 325), it is present also in Scripture (most
noticeably in the Gospel of St John) and thus must be respected as such. The
question, though, was when this role of Messiah came upon him, and how the question
is significant.

Personally, I favour the Markean view, simply because I believe that Jesus - being
fully human as well as being fully God - ultimately had a choice in the matter of
whether or not to become the Messiah. According to Mark, that choice was made when
he was baptised into the Jordan from among the crowd that John was baptising.

Author: todd_vetter33
Posted: 10/06/2009 07:29 PM

The daniel 70 weeks prophecy points to Messiah the prince arriving at the time
Jesus was baptised in the Jordan River. It was at this time that the Psalm 2:7
Prophecy was fulfilled.

You will want to see what is posted on Pages 36-38 at the following link regarding
this topic.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf

All the information prior is regarding the death and resurrection of Christ. to
understand the resurrection of the Son of man. One needs to know truthfully when
Christ was concived of the spirit since many do not understand to what extent
Christ was really born physically according to the flesh.

God Bless

It all depends on which writing you are reading and how it has been interpreted.
It seems for Paul it was at the death and resurrection (as one event) that God
appointed him. The unknown author of Mark have it at his baptism while Luke and
Matthew's unknown writer have it at his death or resurrection and the unknown
author John has him divine before his birth.
Of course Christ could very well also mean anyone that was called or appointed by
God with a mission as anointed by God.
It is collection and evolution of ideas well after Jesus that produced what is seen
today.

Author: todd_vetter33
Posted: 10/07/2009 06:13 PM

the baptism of Water (repentance) and spirit (truth/Holy spirit/Law written on the
hear) is the death and resurrection of the son of man. This is your resurrection as
well. On this day you will be sons and daughters of God. Will hear God's voice and
do all that Christ did and more.

Until then we are all Pharisees who read historical recordings of men who were sons
of God because they could hear God's voice.

V/R
Todd M. Vetter

Author: Heterodoxus
Posted: 10/07/2009 07:57 PM

MagusYanam wrote:
Interesting, Heterodoxus. But I think the question of Jesus' divinity is separate
from that at hand.

Not necessarily. That Jesus was confused with the -???? ???? (mashiach-nagiyd in
the WLC; "Messiah the Prince" in KJV) of Dan. 9:25, and Isa. 9:6-7, appears evident
in the Gospels; spec. Matt. 3:10-13; Mark 8:27-30 (note v.30); Luke 7:17-20; 9:18-
21 (note v.21); John 6:15.

His followers confused him with "Messiah the Prince" then, and Christians similarly
confuse Jesus now. The Catholic Church confused Jesus with--and deified him as--the
God of the OT then, and Christians similarly confuse and deify Jesus now.

And so it goes . . . . .