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Editor : Dimple Mehta

November 2018
DADAVANI Conti. Issue No.: 157
Year : 14
Pages - 44 Through Darshan of the Gnani, Issue : 1
One Attains Darshan of One’s Own Self
EDITORIAL
Lord Krishna has said, “The Gnani Purush is indeed my own Self.” Absolutely revered
Dadashri always used to say, “What you see here is actually a Patel from Bhadran and ‘we’ are a
Gnani Purush. It is due to the current era of the time cycle that absolute Knowledge (keval Gnan)
has stopped at 356 degrees, and the One who has manifest within is the Lord of the fourteen
worlds, the One who is the complete God at 360 degrees. I, myself, worship Him, don’t I! And
I tell you, too, to come and do darshan [please read this Dadavani to understand this word].”
The manifestation of a Gnani Purush who prevails in a state of continuous freedom
from the mind-speech-body is a great marvel of this era of the time cycle. The Gnani who
moves about without being bound by matter, location, time, inner intent, and worldly existence,
who continuously prevails in His own natural state as the Self; it is worth doing the darshan
of such a Gnani Purush. But what should that darshan be like? It is if one truly recognizes
and does darshan that it will be of use. Dadashri says that in the current times, people do
not even know whether their tea is sweetened with sugar or with jaggery, so how will a poor
fellow recognize the Gnani? Is it an easy thing to recognize the Gnani Purush? It is, in fact,
when the heart becomes pure enough that recognition takes place.
In the current edition, special understanding will be attained on what is darshan, whose
darshan should be done, stanzas on darshan of the Gnani and Dada, with which vision
should the Gnani be seen, darshan through the intellect versus the heart, the true method of
doing darshan with oneness, what is acquired through true darshan, change that comes about
merely through darshan, and other subject matter. Absolutely revered Dadashri says, “The
losses of infinite lifetimes are to be repaid in one lifetime. So follow the five Agnas ‘we’ have
given you, and come to ‘us’ and keep doing true darshan, then everything will be repaid.”
Dadashri used to say that for us, there are three days that are of the utmost importance:
the Hindu New Year’s Day, Gurupurnima, and Janmajayanti. On those days, Dada does
not engage in any worldly interaction. The Gnani Purush is one with Dada Bhagwan as the
complete state as the Self, and on that day, one receives utmost benefit through darshan.
Therefore, do not miss out on the opportunity of doing darshan of the absolute Self. One
hundred and ten years have passed since the birth of the Gnani Purush. This year, on 22nd
November 2018, on the fourteenth day of the lunar phase in the first month of the Indian
calendar, we will all attain extraordinary darshan of Dada Bhagwan on the occasion of the
celebration of the Gnani Purush’s 111th birthday.
Krupadudev Shrimad Rajchandra has said that the Gnani Purush is in fact the manifest
absolute Self in a body. Simply upon seeing the manifest Self, one becomes that state, the
energies manifest within. Through Him, one is to do darshan of one’s own Self. Now that you
have received the Knowledge of the Self from the manifest Gnani Purush Dada Bhagwan,
do true darshan of His, attain his grace, get your work done in this life, and progress on the
path of moksha; that is the only ardent prayer.
~ Jai Sat Chit Anand
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Dadashri has given detailed explanations for this Science in the Gujarati language and He has urged those who want
to understand its depth fully, to learn the Gujarati language.
While reading these translations of the Gujarati Dadavani magazine, if you feel there is any sort of contradiction, then
it is the mistake of the translators and the understanding of the matter should be clarified with the living Gnani.
In order to enhance the reading experience of the English Dadavani, a glossary with the translations of the Gujarati words used
in the matter is available on https://www.dadabhagwan.org/books-media/glossary/ on the internet for readers. Please share
your feedback about this change and the overall reading experience of the English Dadavani on engvani@dadabhagwan.org.    
Please note that ‘S’ Self denotes the awakened Self, separate from the ‘s’ worldly self or non-Self complex. The Self is the Soul
within all living beings. The term pure Soul is used by the Gnani Purush for the awakened Self, after the Gnan Vidhi. The
absolute Soul is the fully enlightened Self. The worldly soul is the self. In the same manner, ‘Y’ You refers to the awakened
Soul or Self, and the ‘y’ you refers to the worldly self. Also note that round brackets are for translation purposes and square
brackets are for clarity that has been added in English which is not originally present in Gujarati.

Through Darshan of the Gnani, One Attains Darshan of One’s Own Self
If Water Is Not Sprinkled After the value for it at all! Did you attend school
Seeds Are Sown … or not? How many years did you attend?
Questioner: Even after taking Gnan Questioner: Ten years.
(Knowledge of the Self), I have to bring in
Dadashri: And what did you learn
‘I am pure Soul’. I find that a bit difficult.
there? Language! You spent ten years to
Dadashri: No, you do not need to learn this English language, whereas I am
maintain it, it indeed remains on its own. only asking you to spend six months with
What needs to be done for that? You me. If you stay in close touch with me for
have to keep coming to me. The ‘water’ six months, then your work will get done.
that needs to be sprinkled is not getting
There Is Freedom Simply Through
sprinkled. That is why all this becomes
Darshan of the Gnani
difficult. If you do not pay attention to
your business, then what would happen Questioner: What desire should
to your business? mahatmas (Self-realized ones in Akram
Vignan) maintain to attain the absolute
Questioner: It would decline.
state (purnapad)?
Dadashri: Yes, this is also like that.
Dadashri: Only the desire to spend
You have taken Gnan, so water needs to
as much of one’s life as possible with
be sprinkled; then the sapling will grow.
Dada; no other desire. Whether it is day
Even a small sapling needs sprinkling of
or night, wherever it is, but one should
water. So once every month, every two
remain in close proximity to Dada. One
months, ‘we’ sprinkle some water on it.
should remain in his vicinity [such that
Questioner: We ‘sprinkle’ it at his vision falls on you].
home.
One should just keep looking at
Dadashri: No, but it will not do if the Gnani, simply darshan (devotional
you do it at home. Would that do? The viewing) of the Gnani is to be done. It
Gnani (One who has realized the Self is only through His darshan that freedom
and is able to do the same for others) has is possible, but human beings in this era
come here in person, and you have no of the time cycle do not have the energy
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at all to do darshan, that is why ‘we’ If Pain Does Not Leave, Then This Is
have to give Gnan. It is possible to attain Not Dada
everything simply through darshan of the
Questioner: However, the demerit
Gnani Purush.
karma that were done before, they will
Bliss Prevails in the Presence of the certainly come into effect, won’t they,
Gnani sometime or another…
Questioner: What happens to the Dadashri: It is because you had
one who has only done darshan of Dada done demerit karma that you could not
and has not taken Gnan? internally recall anything at all before.
Even if you learn it from a book, you
Dadashri: Then he would meet then forget it. What happens? Awareness
some other Gnani again. If he has done does not remain. Those demerit karma
this darshan, then he would meet one. would bite within. Who used to make you
Every so often, if ‘we’ have not given worry? Demerit karma. As those worries
Gnan to someone and he sits here every came to an end, so the demerit karma
day, even then he will attain moksha in were destroyed. That is why Lord Krishna
fifteen lifetimes. Not everyone understands has said in the Gita, “The Gnani Purush
Gnan, but everything can change by just can roll up demerit karma into a ball and
doing darshan. destroy them. And the Gnani is indeed
There is no issue with whether one my Atma (Self), meaning I am indeed
attains ‘our’ Gnan or does not; but one’s that.” Therefore, if this is understood, then
worldly life becomes pleasant. His demerit ultimate closure comes about, otherwise
karmas have begun to wash off. Simply will ultimate closure come about?
upon doing darshan of the Gnani Purush, Questioner: If the effects of karma
the faults feel blazing heat (taap). Just look are definite, then how can the demerit
right now, bliss prevailed within, didn’t karma that have been bound get reduced
it? Did you feel bliss? to ashes by doing darshan of the Gnani
Questioner: Yes… Purush? What special process is there
in the darshan of the Gnani Purush that
Dadashri: Where would a Gnani accomplishes this?
Purush even exist? This is a wonder that
Dadashri: By doing this darshan,
can be seen after a million years! Where
the mind becomes good, the mind becomes
would one come across Him?
strong, the speech becomes good, the
The Gnani Purush has no internal thoughts become good. At that moment,
difficulty (shalya) whatsoever. As He all the thoughts immediately turn into good
Himself is in a spontaneous joyful state thoughts, just upon seeing Him. There
(prasanna chit), when another person is an effect due to His surroundings. At
simply does darshan of His spontaneous that moment, those parmanu, those that
joyful state, bliss arises for that person. are still not ready to give effect, the ones
Simply through darshan of the Gnani that will become fit to give effect; they
Purush, demerit karmas of countless will disappear instantaneously. Those that
lifetimes get burnt to ashes! are ready to give effect, nothing can be
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changed in that at all. Yes, but they do considered that one has done darshan? It is
become lighter. when one [does darshan] with some faith
within, ‘What he is saying is correct. In
Questioner: It is like the gash
what He is saying, even one sentence of it
induced by a sharp knife [near fatal cut]
is correct.’ If this much faith arises, even
is reduced to that of the prick of a needle.
then it is said that one will get benefit.
Dadashri: There is a lot of difference However, if one feels in his mind that not
in [the way it is] suffered. After doing a single point is correct, then he will not
darshan of Dada, if your pain (dukh) does get the benefit.
not go away, then this is not Dada at all.
Questioner: In this [example], if I
‘We’ had told one person, “Anyone who
go into [a room with] air conditioning,
does ‘our’ darshan just once by seeing
then the heat reduces; that is actually
‘us’ as the Self, if his pain does not go
a scientific thing. Whereas what is the
away, then this is not Dada.” His pain
science behind this?
should go away, yes…
Dadashri: Upon touching ‘our’
Change Comes About Simply Upon
hand, any change can come about within
Touching the Parmanu of the Gnani
a person. With merely the touch of ‘our’
Purush
hand. So when ‘we’ place ‘our’ hand on
Questioner: By coming under some people’s heads, then they come back
the protection of the Gnani Purush, and tell ‘us’, “For three days, only samadhi
demerit karma are destroyed; can you (a state free from the effects of mental,
explain logically how demerit karma are physical, and externally-induced problems,
destroyed? resulting in bliss) prevailed.” What are
each and every parmanu (the smallest,
Dadashri: You know those cold
most indivisible and indestructible particle
storages that exist? So on a hot summer’s
of matter) of the Gnani Purush like? The
day, there is extreme heat, but if you enter
One in whose feet there is direct moksha.
a cold storage on a hot summer’s day, then
Why is direct moksha in His feet? In this
what happens to you? Does the heat get
world, nobody’s feet can be touched [out
wiped out or does it not?
of veneration]. If one touches the feet
Questioner: It does. of an egoistic person, then his ego will
increase. The One in whom the ego does
Dadashri: Then you ask, “How did
not increase, you should bow to His feet
the heat get wiped out?” You yourself
with reverence. Then an ultimate closure
experience how it happened! As soon
will come about for you. Therefore, by
as you entered the cold storage, the heat
touching the Gnani Purush, all demerit
got wiped out, this heat was extreme
karma are reduced to ashes.
heat but as you entered inside, the heat
got wiped out, didn’t it? Who did it? It If darshan is done of just one person
occurs naturally. I am not destroying these who is free from kashay (anger-pride-
demerit karma. [It happens] Naturally, just deceit-greed), then demerit karma get
by seeing Him, by doing darshan of the washed automatically! There is no other
Gnani Purush. In that, when can it be person besides the Gnani Purush, who is
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free from kashay. If darshan of the Gnani Dadashri: Yes, even tremendous
Purush, who is free from kashay, is done stillness remains. So that is considered
just once, moksha begins from that point. an elevated environment. People in the
What is considered free from kashay? It is world rarely even know about the Gnani
a state that happens, in which there were Purush! When one does not have the
no kashay, there are none, and there will understanding, then it all goes away in
be none. So He does not have parparinati vain, due to lack of understanding. It
(to believe ‘I am doing’ in what are results indeed affects him, but he would not know
of the non-Self) at all. If one does darshan the reason for the effects. In this way,
there, then there will be salvation! everyone is affected according to his or
her understanding.
All Effects Simmer Down in the
Proximity of the Gnani Questioner: So this Self that
has manifest, the other person benefits
Questioner: No matter the effects according to his understanding, is that
that have arisen, but when we come in what you are saying?
from outside and do darshan of Dada,
then through that darshan, all the effects Dadashri: Yes.
simmer down. What is the secret behind Questioner: So just like ice, whether
this? the person has the understanding or not,
Dadashri: This is a magnificent but it will not refrain from giving off
darshan, isn’t it! It is like this; if ice is coolness.
placed over here, then very cold wind is Dadashri: Yes, it gives coolness,
felt. So you tell someone, “Go and see but he simply thinks that it is due to the
what the breeze outside is like? Has it environment. He does not understand
become like ice?” The response will be, anything else. He does not correctly
“No, the breeze outside is actually not understand where the coolness is coming
that cold.” Then you will understand from. A person does not have that much
that ice must have been placed here. If energy (shakti). It is, in fact, a person
ice has this much of an effect, then what who has come to investigate, and who
effect does the Gnani Purush have? Ice has the ability to investigate, who has it.
has this large an effect, so [imagine the Otherwise, an [ordinary] person does not
effect of] the Gnani Purush, the place have that ability.
where he has lived, and the surrounding
environment…! Upon Recognition, the Boat Sails Across

Questioner: There is a change in Questioner: Those who come to do


the entire awakened awareness (jagruti), your darshan, are they doing darshan of
it suddenly increases a lot. the Gnani or are they doing darshan of
the Gnani’s Gnan?
Dadashri: Yes, all the changes
happen. Dadashri: They are doing darshan
of both, the Gnani and the Gnan. If
Questioner: A high level of stillness they do not do darshan of both, then it
(sthirata) also arises within. remains incomplete. It is necessary that
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they do darshan of the Gnani and when itself a great wonder! It is when one has
does darshan of Gnan happen? They such great merit karma effect (punyai) of
do darshan of the Gnani first, thereafter ten million lifetimes, that one comes across
darshan of the Gnan happens; that is Me. Otherwise, darshan of Dada cannot
discretion, that is humility, that much be done, the one in whom the Lord of the
humility is needed along with it. If you entire universe has fully manifested! ‘He’
look with understanding, then a solution is ready to give whatever you ask for. You
will come about for you. Otherwise, if you would [normally] not come across Him.
see a person as a collector, then you will In fact, what is the reason you have met
become like a collector. For the attainment him? It is because your merit karma effect
of Gnan, recognize the Gnani; there is no is immensely great, isn’t it?
other way.
Simply Through Darshan, Benefits for
Questioner: You are saying that to Worldly Prosperity and Liberation
recognize the Gnani is itself a big thing,
aren’t you? Kaviraj has sung:
‘Satsang is dependent upon merit karma
Dadashri: Yes, that itself is a effect,
big thing. It is a very big thing! Upon I desire worldly and spiritual prosperity.’
recognizing [the Gnani], the ‘boat’ sails
across! However, if one does not recognize ‘Satsang chhe punya sanchalit,
[the Gnani], then someone such as yourself chahoon abhyuday aanushangik.’
will tell him, “Dear fellow, recognize
Upon meeting the Gnani  Purush,
[Him] and do darshan properly.” So he
two benefits are gained; firstly, there is
carries forward.
abhyuday, which means there continues
You must have had some firm to be prosperity in worldly life, worldly
resolve, that is why you have met this benefits are attained, and secondly,
Gnani Purush. Otherwise, the darshan of aanushangik means benefits are attained
the Gnani Purush is extremely, extremely for liberation! Both benefits are attained
difficult to attain, a hundred times over, simultaneously. If the benefits are not
that is what Krupadudev has said. He received simultaneously, then He is not
says, “That which is difficult to attain a Gnani Purush. It is actually because
even in the good era of the time cycle, there are countless ‘overdrafts’; that is
how can that become easily attainable why they are not observable. Because you
in this era of the time cycle?” In fact, it are doing this satsang, those ‘overdrafts’
is because you have done some form of will definitely be paid off.
true worship, otherwise, would one come
across the Gnani Purush? Krupadudev Here, there is not only the benefit
[Gnani Purush 1867-1901] has said that of liberation; if that were the case, then
the Gnani Purush is indeed the absolute you would not get even a piece of cloth to
Self in body-form (dehadhaari Parmatma). wear. But no, here, the benefit of liberation
and the benefit of worldly prosperity exist
Currently, it is difficult to attain a together.
human life-form. So the fact that you have
come across ‘us’ in this day and age is If you are hired in the king’s court
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and you go to meet the king, then you By doing darshan of the Gnani
will get distinguished benefits of his Purush, the most elevated benefits of
acquaintance (drashtifad). The wages you prosperity in worldly life as well as
get from your employment are the benefit benefits for liberation are attained, and
you get from serving him. By serving the that is why the greatest peace prevails!
king, you will get two hundred and fifty Obstacles of worldly life do not hinder
rupees from the king, whereas by bowing and the work of liberation gets done, both
down to the king, you get the distinguished indeed happen together.
benefits of the king’s acquaintance! Despite the law of scientific
Drashtifad means that the king’s eyes circumstantial evidence (vyavasthit), if
fall on you and he asks you, “Where do one does ‘our’ darshan, even then the
you live?” Upon knowing this, you get a obstacles that come forth will become
better place to live; that is drashtifad. If lighter. Simply through My darshan, all
such benefit is gained by falling under the obstructions break.
vision (drashti) of a king, then what would
not be attained by falling under the vision Darshan Done with Oneness Dissolves
of a Gnani Purush? The king actually has the Ego and Obstinacy
limitations; he actually has the intense From the moment you do darshan
greed to increase the extent of his rule, of the Gnani Purush, attainment of the
whereas this is the Gnani Purush, the One Self has begun. How? If you simply do
who prevails in a state completely free of darshan one time. Kaviraj says, “If you
desire! And what are the gains of falling pay obeisance one time by joining your
under His vision like? If one comes here hands together, even then your ‘ship’ will
to satsang, then he definitely takes that sail across [the ‘ocean’ of worldly life].
drashtifad with him. Not paying obeisance by prostrating eight
If you know how to do darshan parts of the body; if you pay obeisance
of the Vitaraag Lord, then even if it is by joining your hands together, even then
your ‘ship’ will sail across.”
an idol, nevertheless benefits for worldly
prosperity and liberation are attained! When you fold your hands together
But it is if a Gnani Purush explains how in front of a Gnani Purush, it means
to do that darshan that you will know you have purified the ego of worldly
how, otherwise no one would know how, interaction. And when you bow down
would they? For darshan of the Gnani and touch your forehead to His big toe
Purush, the ‘cheque’ of merit karma effect and do true darshan, that means that you
(punyai) of ten million lifetimes must be have surrendered the ego. However much
cashed in. The Gnani Purush manifests the ego is surrendered, that much the
after thousands of years, and in that too, work gets accomplished, simply through
this is the Akram Gnani. So there is darshan.
liberation without any chanting, without
Questioner: Does the ego go away
any penance, and without any exertion! simply through your darshan?
Drashtifad is attained through the Gnani
Purush, and through that, benefits for Dadashri: Yes, it is such that it
liberation (mokshafad) are attained. goes away simply through darshan. Such
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darshan is never found. In fact, who is state of being that results in hurting the
this? A laghutam Purush (One who is the self) and raudradhyan (adverse internal
humblest in the relative). Where would one state of being that hurts others) should
get [the opportunity to do] darshan of a go away, they should not remain. If they
laghutam Purush? Everyone is superior remain even slightly, then one has not
(guru). And they have reached the height done darshan of the Gnani Purush at all.
of superiority (gurutam). Can darshan of If the Gnani Purush ever manifests, then
the laghutam ever be done? Can darshan it is not to make you put in efforts [such
of laghutam be done? Why are you not as], ‘You should do penance, you should
responding? Find one person in the world do chanting, or all that.’ If it is in one’s
who is laghutam. ‘We’ are a laghutam prakruti, if it suits one to do penance, then
Purush. All living beings are greater he does penance, if he chants, then he
than ‘us’. And ‘we’ are the disciple of will chant. However, [one passes through]
all these people, of these fifty thousand these ‘stations’ as long as one has not
or so people. met the Gnani Purush. And the Gnani
Purush is the final [‘station’], Bombay
If you come here and do darshan, Central. Then no trains go ahead, they
then with that darshan, you will receive stop there. Therefore, all your work gets
everything that ‘we’ have. You will receive done. Whatever you ask for, whatever
it automatically, simply by doing darshan. you imagine, all that will happen. This
You do not need to do anything else, you is because He continuously prevails in
will receive it simply through darshan, nirvikalp samadhi (the highest realization
but what should it be like? It should be in which undisturbed bliss of the Self
darshan with oneness (abhed darshan). prevails). Now what else remains for
Questioner: After doing Dada’s you there? This is such that you will get
darshan, does obstinacy and everything whatever you ask for. Worries will not
else go away? arise again, externally-induced problems
will not arise, pain will not arise, and you
Dadashri: It goes away, they do not become independent, always independent;
know this. If they knew that, then they whereas here, one is dependent to all.
would not refrain from coming, would
they! Obstinacies go away simply through There Is Change Simply Through
darshan. If one sits here with ‘us’, then Darshan
he becomes sensible. Yet he goes outside ‘We’ have not given you only the
and keeps digging the burrow. Mortal nirlep Atma (the Self, which can never be
one, why don’t you sit here, why do you smeared by any karma particle), ‘we’ have
keep digging burrows outside? There is also given you nirvikalp samadhi (state in
no awareness over there. Therefore, take which the non-Self complex and the Self
the benefit now. remain completely separate, they never
The Gnani Purush Is Actually the become one under any circumstance, and
Final Station One remains as the Self). In the Kramik
path, when One becomes the pure Soul
By doing darshan of the Gnani in all aspects, that is when One attains
Purush, aartadhyan (adverse internal nirvikalp samadhi.
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When samadhi (blissful state that (state of absolute absence of attachment
prevails despite the presence of any and abhorrence) resides within them; learn
mental, physical, or externally-induced that. The speech is such that the mind
suffering) arises immediately upon seeing becomes appeased. Therefore, all this will
a person, that darshan is considered become possible by continuously being in
to be darshan. When samadhi arises my proximity. All this is to be learned by
immediately upon seeing, that is true observing. This which I speak is to be
darshan. Why do all these people keep learned through observation. Then you will
doing ‘our’ darshan? What they see here even learn to speak like me; once you have
is indeed what gives them samadhi. What seen that I speak syadvaad vani (speech
is that samadhi like? Even if you try to that accepts all viewpoints and never
get rid of it, it will not leave! If you tell hurts anyone’s viewpoint). That cannot
that samadhi, “Hey samadhi, go stay at be learned through studying. So what do
your parents’ place for a few days,” then people say? “Show me by example.” You
it will say, “No, I can’t do without you.” tell him once, “Here, sit on the table and
If you tell samadhi, “This body wants to eat like this.” So you have to show him
stir up some trouble, so you go!” Then once. Then you will not have to teach him
it will say, “You should have told me again. Whereas what if it were taught in
before! Now it is no longer possible.” books, if it were all planned out in a book
Now, even if you attempt to remove and taught? When would one ever learn?
natural samadhi, it will not go. Now, the If one were placed with a pickpocket, then
Knower simply Sees the one who eats, within six months, he would make him
drinks, sits and moves about. ‘alright’, an expert! Otherwise, he will not
learn even after twenty years of college.
And in the final moments of one’s His own professor would not know how
life, if he meets the Gnani Purush and to do that!
does His darshan, then he will bind a life
in the celestial realm. So much change Darshan of Vitaraagata
takes place simply through darshan! A
lot of change happens by doing darshan Questioner: I have read descriptions
of the Gnani Purush, the thoughts within in the scriptures about who can be vitaraag
and everything changes. If the thoughts (free from attachment and abhorrence) and
change for forty-eight minutes, simply what the state of the vitaraag is like, but
through darshan, then the work is done! I have never gotten to see a Vitaraag in
bodily form.
What Should One Learn From ‘Us’?
Dadashri: [Such a person] Would
What should be learned from ‘us’? not be found, one would not actually get to
Why do I keep you seated in my proximity? do darshan of a vitaraag. I have actually
It is so that you keep seeing His life. See failed in this era of the time cycle, that is
His eyes. What resides within the eyes? why all these people got to do darshan.
Do you see any kind of ulterior motive Otherwise, for the One who is very close
in them? No. There is not any kind of to [attaining] absolute Knowledge, there
ulterior motive that is visible within them. would be no scope to do His darshan!
So what resides within them? Vitaraagata Rather, it is if one gets the chance to do
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this darshan that one is able to understand free from all attachment and abhorrence)
the description of vitaraagata, as in what can be recognized through his eyes. His
vitaraagata is like! And that is how ‘we’ vitaraagata is itself freedom! I feel as
remain. though I am indeed within each of you!
Even if one knows how to do darshan of
Just look, do ‘we’ have any divisive- the Gnani Purush, the bliss of freedom
ness due to difference in opinion (matb- (muktisukh) prevails.
hed) or any disputes with anyone? Even
if the other person speaks unfavorably, do Questioner: Does doing darshan
I have any problem? I know how to deal mean doing it with feeling (bhaav)?
with such a person! Remain vitaraag and Dadashri: No, not with feeling. The
deal with them, maintain both at the same feelings are definitely there for you, but
time; the non-Self complex (pudgal) does you should know how to do darshan. You
the dealing and I am to remain vitaraag! should know how to do the exact darshan
So, one has gotten the scope to witness of the Gnani Purush. Such darshan can
vitaraagata in this era of the time cycle, be done if there are no obstacles, and the
provided one understands! If one delves bliss of freedom prevails from the moment
deeper, then pure vitaraagata can be wit- that darshan is done!
nessed. And ‘we’ never keep any mental
note. Once an incident takes place, ‘we’ The Intellect Puts an Obstruction
do not keep a mental note. ‘We’ have Over Darshan
gotten rid of the ‘notebook’ itself. Of all the people who do darshan,
Questioner: When praise is given, darshan can be done by our people
when showered with flowers, there is no who have attained Gnan, and darshan
mental note of even that, and when a can be done by those Jains (devotees
stone is hurled, there is no mental note of Lord Mahavir) and those Vaishnavs
even of that? (devotees of Lord Krishna) who have not
attained Gnan. So for those who have
Dadashri: Yes, otherwise, as the taken not Gnan, in comparison to Jains,
notebook keeps getting filled up, it all darshan happens better for Vaishnavs. In
results in negativity, and your view comparison to Vaishnavs, those belonging
towards the other person changes. When to other religions, those people have better
the other person sees you, then your view darshan. And those who are utterly poor,
will appear to be changed to him. Won’t like the two laborer ladies who had come
the other person know that a mental yesterday, they have magnificent darshan.
note has been made? But when one What is it like? Magnificent meaning the
sees the vitaraagata in my eyes, then he darshan that they have is as if they have
immediately realizes, ‘Dada is the very met the real God Himself. The reason
same, just as he was before!’ Vitaraagata for this is they do not have intellect of
is visible in my eyes. Just as a person with their own, so the intellect is not used!
bad conduct can be recognized through The intellect does not create a veil of
his eyes, just as a greedy person can ignorance (avaran). They in fact see the
be recognized through his eyes, in the Vitaraag as vitaraag. You saw those two
same way, the Vitaraag (the One who is ladies, didn’t you?
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Questioner: I had seen them, they A Clean Heart Is Needed
had become jubilant all of a sudden.
Where the intellect exists, where it
Dadashri: Yes, they had become is tumultuous, then even Dada’s darshan
jubilant, but they told me directly. ‘We’ is not done properly. Otherwise, there is
said, “Now whenever you face a problem, direct, vitaraag darshan of Dada, provided
remember Dada. “Everything has been one understands.
achieved for the entire life,” they said. Questioner: Direct, vitaraag dar-
Darshan for the entire lifetime has been shan.
received. Whenever you face a problem,
Dada becomes present at that time. Dadashri: Just as when you look
Whereas these intellectuals do not get into someone’s eyes, don’t you say, “That
that, they have obstructions. person has ill intent in his eyes, his vision
is tainted.” In the same way, you can
Questioner: They had so much recognize all this, that which vision is
unfolding merit karma that You went this? You will even recognize that this is
there, and they got darshan. the vitaraag vision (drashti).
Dadashri: When ‘we’ go out of Questioner: Yes, Dada. Even the
town, thousands of people do ‘our’ dar- vitaraag vision can be recognized. That
shan, yet they do not have as great darshan man said that darshan of that which is
as those ladies. Instead, ordinary darshan beyond this world (alaukikna darshan)
happens for all of them. Those ladies did happened.
extraordinary darshan! Aarti (the ritual of Dadashri: Yes, that which is beyond
waving lamps in front of an idol or deity this world. And it can only be seen if it
while singing a hymn) was done here, and is understood. So then he tells me, “I am
I immediately stepped out, so they did going to sit here.” Wherever I go, he does
extraordinary darshan. They did darshan darshan like that, that which is beyond
in aarti, they got some darshan, so a this world (alaukik). I understand that it
veil of ignorance broke. So extraordinary is difficult to recognize Him in this state,
darshan happened for them. At the time, in a coat and a hat. Even if one tries to
did anyone see their faces, their demeanor, set the vision here, it will not fit, will it!
and all that? If ‘we’ had become an ascetic, then they
Questioner: Yes, the bliss that arose would be able to do the darshan as it is.
And true darshan has been done in the
from within all of a sudden.
midst of a coat and a hat, so salvation has
Dadashri: Yes, they do not have indeed happened, hasn’t it! He [that man]
an intellect that creates obstruction. All is considered to be tested.
these people have an intellect that cre- Questioner: He has done darshan
ates obstruction, and for the one who is of the original Self.
more intellectual, they do not have good
darshan at all. ‘Our’ darshan is the very Dadashri: It is of the Self (alaukik
same, but they cannot understand it; their vastu). The darshan of that which can
intellect interferes. never be done, he has done darshan of
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that! However, a clear heart is needed for Dadashri: Those are considered
that darshan. Then one can even do ‘our’ tears of joy. Tears of joy come forth by
darshan on the street. doing darshan. However, as long as the
intellect is in tumult, one cannot find the
Questioner: Dada, does a clear heart level [of the Gnani].
mean that his antahkaran (mind-intellect-
chit-ego complex) is clean? Just look, the intellect is in tumult,
so even humility (vinay) does not remain
Dadashri: Clean, purity. Impurity here. Higher darshan happens for the one
does exist, but there is not as much who is heartily, and when the intellect has
impurity as other people. However, he become calm, then darshan can happen.
can see it, he can do Dada’s darshan. It When one goes towards the heart, then
is such that one hundred percent darshan
it happens. As long as the intellect does
can be done, then whether one is a Gnani
not become tranquil, one does not attain
(with Self-realization) or an agnani
religion at all. As long as the intellect
(without Self-realization), one’s readiness
does not become steady, one does not
is required.
attain religion at all. When the intellect
Questioner: One’s own readiness becomes steady, then Dada’s darshan is
is required. His antahkaran needs to be done completely. That is when one goes
clean. towards the heart, one becomes heartily
Dadashri: Darshan does happen Questioner: In order to reach the
for mahatmas. They then continue to say heart, satsang and darshan are needed,
Aseem Jai Jaikar (eternal glory to the right?
Lord within) very loudly, while being
engrossed (tanmayakar). This is because Dadashri: Yes, there is a need for
their intellect does not obstruct. The darshan and satsang. That which is seen
intellect is the one that interferes within. with the eyes is one type of darshan, and
That intellect does not allow true darshan the second is darshan that is done through
to happen. If one has recognized the the intellect, and the third is Darshan of
Gnani, then one would not go home even the Self. When all three of these darshan
to sleep. He would say, “I will stay lying happen, that is when the work is done.
down on the stairs, near the front porch. I Darshan actually gets a lot of work done.
will only stay here in Your environment. If one does darshan in a suitable way,
But take me under Your protection.” It is then a lot of work gets done. In satsang,
difficult for such recognition to occur! It is the intellect may get some authority, but
difficult to observe that vitaraagata! One with darshan, not even the intellect gets
should know how observe it, shouldn’t he? any authority [to play its role].
A Higher Darshan Happens for One Questioner: Is there a need for
Who Is Heartily purification of the intellect or is there no
need for the intellect at all?
Questioner: Dada, many times by
doing your darshan so much bliss arises Dadashri: Through which medicine
that I start crying. What is the reason for will you purify it? It is in fact when you
that? go to the Gnani Purush and provided that
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he is a true Gnani, then your intellect or Buddha. It is only afterwards that all
becomes samyak (intellect that does not this has arisen.
interfere and sees the positive). That which
is viparit (that which interferes and sees Dadashri: No, but ‘we’, in fact,
the negative), when it becomes samyak, have forty thousand around who recognize
purification is considered to have taken ‘us’ who have come together, this is
place. Otherwise it does not become because this gives cash [result]. Otherwise,
samyak; it only remains viparit. no one would come here at all. This is,
in fact, direct cash, isn’t it!
It Is Not Easy to Recognize the
Living Gnani Questioner: Then after fifty years,
one would come to know, ‘Oh ho ho!
It is not easy to meet the Gnani, Such a Gnani Purush had manifested.’
and if you meet Him, then your salvation
Dadashri: Yes, yes. Then when
happens! Otherwise, darshan of the Gnani
they will read the books, then they will
does not exist. And if darshan happens
come to know.
[one meets the Gnani and interacts
with the Gnani] and if the poor fellow For That, the Ability to Recognize Is
is weak [inadequate inner receptivity Required
of recognition], then he will not even
recognize the Gnani. It is not easy to One has not done darshan of the
recognize Him, is it? If it were easy to Gnani nor has he recognized the Gnani in
recognize, then there would be no need any lifetime. If one has recognized Him,
for a jeweler at all, would there! If one then he certainly will not fall short. One
is able to recognize a diamond, then he should be able to recognize whether this
would bring it [home]! One does not have Gnani is a ‘Visa’ or a ‘Dasha’ [Jain sub-
the energy to recognize that! castes], is He an ‘Adhhiya’ or a ‘Panchiya’
[Jain sub-castes]; that recognition should
Even if you pay billions of rupees, take place. As a matter of fact, a ‘Visa’
it is not possible to do darshan of the or a ‘Dasha’ [Jain] can be recognized, but
Gnani Purush. Even when the Gnani this [the Gnani] cannot be recognized. If
Purush comes forward to give darshan, recognition does not take place, then one
people do not understand that. Now what does not get [the benefit]. That recognition
can be done? It is due to all the excessive should take place for him, of who this is! If
obstructions, isn’t it! recognition takes place, if a diamond that
is worth twenty-five billion is recognized,
Questioner: Dada, the Gnani Purush
then he gets the benefit of twenty-five
of any particular time; very few people of
billion, but if he believes that the diamond
His time have been able to recognize Him.
worth twenty-five billion is worth two
Dadashri: But they cannot recognize hundred, five hundred, or one thousand,
Him… then he will be at a loss.
Questioner: It is in reference Questioner: [Dada,] Your darshan
everyone, whether it was the Prophet happened, immediately upon seeing you,
Mohammad or Lord Jesus or Lord Mahavir I came to believe, ‘This is a true Purush.’
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Dadashri: You recognized ‘us’ way; otherwise they are not able to rec-
simply by doing darshan? ognize ‘us’. Laborers recognize ‘us’. This
is because they do not have greed; that is
Questioner: Yes, I recognized you. associated with the destruction-construc-
Dadashri: If one has a true heart, tion (bhanjghad) associated with ‘I know’.
then he would recognize ‘us’ simply Questioner: He recognizes Dada,
with darshan, simply upon seeing ‘us’. that itself is considered a miracle, isn’t it?
Is it possible to not recognize the Gnani
Purush? One is able to recognize these Dadashri: No, you should not say
shrewd thieves; he is able to recognize these that it is a miracle. A miracle is this, in
rogues! ‘This person likely pickpockets’; which in one hour a person’s entire vision
one is able to recognize this, so can he changes, permanent conviction of ‘I am
not recognize the Gnani? pure Soul’ (kshayak samkit) sets in; a
great miracle like that, which has never
Questioner: That was the case for happened in any era of the time cycle,
my uncle, too. He had told me on the happens. However, you should not refer
phone, “I have come into contact with to it as a miracle. Its devaluation will take
many people. I have met many people, place if you refer to it as a miracle. What
but I can see something magnificent in is a miracle? That which has no value is
this Purush! You should come and do referred to as a miracle. This is, in fact,
His darshan.” That is why I had come an invaluable thing. What happens if you
that day to do your darshan. refer to it as miracle?
Dadashri: Did he say that He Questioner: Nevertheless, that
appears magnificent? matter is considered precious, isn’t it?

Questioner: Yes, he had told me Dadashri: Yes.


at that time. With Which Vision Should the Gnani
Be Seen?
Dadashri: He has tremendous
examination power; he is of a different Questioner: Dada, how should one
kind. Otherwise, even the religious ones do the darshan of the Gnani Purush?
do not recognize ‘us’. In their mind, they Dadashri: With the Gnani Purush....
have the awareness of ‘I know something’; You have come to know ‘Who I am’, and
they have that layer of ignorance. So they ‘I am not this’ haven’t you!
cannot recognize this. Only laborers are
able to recognize ‘us’, or else people who Questioner: Yes.
are more heartily are able to recognize Dadashri: And if you believe ‘us’
‘us’. Didn’t that person come yesterday? to be this [A. M. Patel], then that is your
Questioner: Yes. mistake, isn’t it?
Questioner: It is a mistake.
Dadashri: What was he saying?
He said, “By doing your darshan, I have Dadashri: You do not believe
accomplished everything.” This is because yourself [to be ‘Chandubhai’] and you
only a rare one recognizes ‘us’ in that believe ‘us’ to be that, then that is your
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mistake, isn’t it? ‘Why is Dada still eating can recognize the leshya of this Gnani
sweet things? If you see this here as thus, Purush. The leshya is constant, that is
that means you do not recognize ‘us’ at why it can be recognized. And there, he
all, do you! This is considered to have gets clear darshan.
not recognized ‘us’, isn’t it?
In the current era of the time cycle,
Questioner: It is definitely considered shukla leshya (white color of the One
to have not recognized You, Dada. who is absolutely without attachment
or abhorrence, and thus is still in the
Dadashri: You have started becom- experience of the Self) does not exist, but
ing acquainted with your own Self, but this is Akram, so it exists. When ‘we’ do
you do not know ‘us’. aarti, at that time ‘we’ have shukla leshya.
Questioner: Dada, it is very difficult It is there during certain times. When ‘our’
for that recognition to occur. Gurupurnima (festival dedicated to paying
respect and expressing gratitude towards
Dadashri: Can anything be difficult one’s guru) is celebrated, there is shukla
in this world? Can anything be difficult? leshya all day long.
It is, in fact, very difficult to become a
B.E. [Bachelor of Engineering] Engineer. Everyone, from a small child to
So much has to be learned that your head an elderly man attains darshan. But if
will explode. What is so difficult about one becomes steady, if he is steady from
this? This is, in fact, even easier than within, then he will be able to recognize
making khichadee (staple Gujarati dish the leshya. If one is not steady, then he
consisting of rice and lentils)! will not be able to recognize the leshya.
If one is swinging within like a pendulum,
Questioner: But how can He be then he will not be able to recognize it.
recognized? If one becomes steady, then the leshya
Dadashri: People do not have the can be recognized. The padma leshya
ability to recognize, do they! He can be (golden color associated with a state of
recognized through the leshya (aura). deep awareness and a mind free from
pleasure and pain effects) of the Gnani
Darshan of the Gnani Purush’s Leshya Purush continues to prevail. And simply
Questioner: Does attraction arise through darshan, satisfaction arises in the
due to the leshya of the Gnani Purush? mind, contentment arises. Nothing has to
be given or taken. Upon becoming steady,
Dadashri: One indeed sees light as one can recognize the Gnani Purush.
a result of the leshya and then the poor
fellow does darshan. He can see it himself, What Is Considered True Darshan?
he sees the leshya. It is only if that leshya Questioner: So Dada, what is
arises that one does darshan. Otherwise, considered true darshan? Is darshan not
no one would do darshan. If he sees the done by simply seeing?
leshya, and sees it with a certain persistent
view, then he will know that this leshya Dadashri: Everyone else was doing
is visible. It is a very difficult thing to darshan, people were doing darshan in
recognize the leshya. However, people this way.
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Questioner: Yes, people were to the body. [By doing this], They will get
coming and bowing down and touching a good body. Nobody does darshan of
your feet. the God that resides within. One is not
to bow with reverence to the body; one
Dadashri: Yes, that was with love.
is to bow with reverence (namaskaar) to
If a person does it because someone told
the God who resides within. That itself is
him to, it’s not as if that is considered
darshan. They do it by looking into true bowing with reverence.
‘our’ eyes. Many immediately surrender By Doing True Darshan, the Status as
to ‘us’; it is according to what his bhaav a Tirthankar Is Bound
(view based on intent) is. Darshan is not
considered darshan just by looking [at King Shrenik bound the Tirthankar
‘us’]. A sudden feeling of joy arises within. gotra (the status as a Tirthankar Lord)
just by doing darshan of Lord Mahavir.
‘Our’ darshan means that when one And there are also such living beings who
looks at ‘us’ like this, that is not considered have come close to the very same Lord
darshan. ‘Our’ darshan is when one Mahavir and yet will wander around for
understands ‘our’ exact real (yathaarth) infinite lifetimes! This is because whilst
value. There may be a diamond worth doing darshan of the Lord, the machine
one billion, but as long as one does not inside turned in the negative direction,
understand its value, what is the benefit of which led to infinite lifetimes!
that? He does not understand the difference
between glass and diamond, does he? That King Shrenik will become the
There is one person in America who first Tirthankar (the absolutely enlightened
had spent seventeen thousand rupees to Lord who will liberate others by His
travel to do Dada’s darshan with his wife presence) by the name of Padmanabh, in
and children. Seventeen thousand rupees is the next cycle of twenty-four Tirthankars!
seventeen hundred dollars, the cost of the Simply through darshan of the Lord! Now,
journey of three return tickets. That was many people did darshan at that time, did
only for darshan. If our people [living in they not? But no, the vision that some guru
India] had to spend one hundred rupees, had given King Shrenik in one of his past
then they would say, “I do not have time.” lives; that vision and this Darshan, when
The intoxication [in the form of illusory the two came together, the Tirthankar
attachment] has not worn off for them, has gotra was bound instantly!
it! They do not know, what it is that they If you do ekagrata (concentrate
are getting! They do not know that this is with unity of mind, body and speech) on
invaluable, meaning it is beyond the value this stone, even then the idol will start
of billions! They do not have awareness. moving. And if you do ekagrata of the
It is such that if one does true Gnani Purush, then you will get darshan
darshan of Mine for just one day, then he of the Tirthankar.
will attain salvation. It is not just about
This darshan is the rarest of the
looking at the face, but people do not
rare, in this world. This Dada is, in fact,
know how to do true darshan at all!
an assistant of the Tirthankar, He is a
In fact, everyone bows with reverence vice Tirthankar.
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It is a very valuable thing for the business?” I tell him, “However much the
darshan of the Gnani Purush to happen. business can be run on its own, let that
It is when a lot of value [in form of merit much carry on. Do not get too worked
karma effect; punyai] is paid, that darshan up now.” Otherwise, he had so many
happens. businesses, but why does he pursue Dada?
He is holding on to ‘us’ relentlessly, he
A Jeweler Understands the Value of a does not let go even for a moment. In a
Diamond way that he does not forget [‘us’]. And
People must be coming across me he plays Dada’s tapes even in his car the
even in trains, mustn’t they? To come entire day. Why has he pursued [‘us’]?
across ‘us’ is not considered darshan. It is because he has had darshan. What
You have met ‘us’ here, that is actually has happened? The entire value has been
considered darshan, but that too, is not placed completely. Now that complete
with its complete value. However much value which has been placed, even that
value you understand this diamond to is still according to his understanding.
have, you get that much darshan. However That too, the value is placed differently
much you understand, you get that much by everyone, there is some difference. If
darshan. However much that person you take this diamond here to a market in
understands, he gets that much darshan. Mumbai, then its value would be placed at
However much value is understood, one 2.5 million rupees. Whereas if you were to
sell it in Madras, then you would get 4.7
receives that much darshan.
million rupees. Do you understand? And
Questioner: That is true. then, if you were to sell the very same
diamond in Paris, then you would get 12.5
Dadashri: When ‘we’ had come to million rupees! So who has more value?
your house that day, then you had felt that The people in Paris have more value. This
this person is some sort of a Gnani Purush. is because they have come having studied
So when ‘we’ came, you maintained basic jewelry for a very long time. Therefore,
respect. However, the darshan you had they have become experts. And there
that day, was it like the darshan that should be a market for it too, shouldn’t
happened for you today? there? If there is an expert, but no market,
Questioner: No. then the value cannot be understood. You
understand that, don’t you? Therefore,
Dadashri: Yes. So Your darshan you understand the value of this in such
has increased again today. This is because a way. When ‘we’ had come to your
when this darshan is done in this way, house, the value that was placed at that
then it is true darshan. Darshan can be time, there was not much to it. But you
understood when He gives you something. are people with tremendous merit karma
What is the reason that this person has effects (punyashadi), so there was nothing
understood true darshan? Why does he else that was objectionable. There was
pursue me? Did he not have a business certainly respect and everything, but when
and money? The truth is, he had a lot true darshan does not happen, then true
of money and great business. He tells recognition does not take place. Today, a
me, “Dada, what should I do about the little bit of recognition has taken place,
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you felt that this darshan [that happened] Darshan of the Gnani Even in a
is appropriate. Dream is Effective
This is indeed why Kavi has sung: Questioner: Dada, four months ago,
Jeni re santo, koti janmo ni punya jaage re, you had come in my dream, and I am
Tene re santo, Dada na darshan thaaye re, getting the benefit of your darshan now.
Ghatma ene khatkaro khat khat vaage re. You are exactly as you were in the dream.
Those saints whose merit karma of ten Dadashri: Just make sure you
million lifetimes has come into fruition, haven’t made a mistake! Is He [Dada]
Those saints get Dada’s darshan, exactly the same?
His memory keeps resounding within.
Questioner: Yes.
- Kaviraj Navneet
Dadashri: Your work is done. Who
It is when merit karma effects from is as punyashadi as the one who has gotten
millions of lifetimes come together, that darshan in a dream? True, it happens for
this darshan happens. Then the second many people. Ten to twenty thousand
sentence says that he then keeps on feeling people have gotten darshan. However,
khatkaro. Khatkaro means ‘we’ keep on the darshan that happened for you was
coming to memory. When you attempt to very good. This does actually happen
remember money, by that time ‘we’ come prior [to meeting Dada in real life], but
to your mind first. Wherever one goes, it happens to only some people. Did you
‘we’ come to his mind first. So then you see it exactly like this? Then did He say
have indeed attained salvation, haven’t anything to you?
you! Even when you want to remember
Lord Mahavir, you cannot; you forget Questioner: That’s all, I got darshan
Him. And if this Lord Mahavir indeed like this, and in the morning, my eyes
keeps on coming in front, within, then suddenly opened.
who has as much tremendous merit karma
effect as you? He indeed keeps on coming Dadashri: A very good thing has
to memory. happened, your merit karma has come
into fruition! Otherwise, people keep hope
Khatkaro means that once a person for that. No matter many vows they take,
has met Dada, then he will want to keep no matter how much money they spend,
on doing His darshan here. That is why even then they will not get this darshan!
‘we’ say, “If you want to go back, then
do not meet me, and if you do meet me, Questioner: Not like that; I did not
then you will have to go to moksha! And even have any thoughts about you, I did
if you want to roam around in the four not even have any idea about you.
life-forms (gatis), then I can even grant Dadashri: You did not have any
you that. In fact, the stamp of approval idea, yet that darshan happened, that
for moksha is given here, so you will itself is considered a great wonder, isn’t
certainly have to go to moksha.” ‘We’ it! People consider you to be someone
actually tell you to not get trapped here, with very great, tremendous merit karma.
and once you do get trapped, you will not
be able to break loose. Questioner: Some dreams that I
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get in which I do darshan of the Gnani dream, then the mind becomes strong and
Purush, are all those dreams true? it does not wander elsewhere.
Dadashri: Yes. The dream state is One man tells me, “Dada, I cried
not untrue, it is a true state. Then whether for two hours in my dream. You came
you find it to be favorable or unfavorable, and I did Your darshan, and everything
that is a different thing. This Dada comes indeed became calm! I became as light
in many people’s dreams, that is not as a flower!” I tell him, “Hey, did your
untrue. He comes in the dreams; He does clothes become wet [from the tears]?” In
vidhi [for them]. comparison with meeting Him in person,
if Dada comes in your dream and you
Questioner: When you are going ask from Him, then you get abundantly
to come to Ahmedabad, then five to six more. This Dada is capable of coming and
days before that, you come in my dream. doing everything even in a dream! You
Dadashri: Darshan in the dream should know how to ask. For many of my
state is completely a true thing, it is not mahatmas, Dada comes in their dreams
false. Nothing in the world that happens every day. The scriptures say:
is false, only factual things happen. ‘Enu swapane jo darshan paame re,
Questioner: But your darshan Tenu man na chhadhe bije bhaame re’
happens in Ahmedabad. Likewise, it ‘The one for whom darshan is done
happens in my dream; that is certainly even in a dream,
considered reality, isn’t it? His mind will certainly not wander
Dadashri: Yes, so it is reality. It elsewhere.’
is in exactness. And it gives results too. If darshan of the Gnani Purush
Bliss arises within too. At that time, so is done once even in a dream, then the
much bliss arises. wandering of the mind elsewhere will
Through Darshan in the Dreams, cease.
Tendencies of the Chit Settle Down As it is, the tendencies of the
chit (chitvruttio) have become tired and
Questioner: The sanskaaro
distressed, they have become exhausted.
(influence on the mind) that are instilled
These tendencies of the chit settle down
through your darshan when one is awake,
after Dada’s darshan happens in a
and the sanskaaro that are instilled through
dream. This is entirely a place of bliss.
your darshan when one is dreaming; of the The bliss comes from within, but when
two, which sanskaaro are more effective? the circumstance of encountering the
Dadashri: Those that are instilled absolutely blissful Self takes place, then
when one is dreaming make him steady bliss overflows.
and those that are instilled when one is
Dada Is Continuously Seen
awake help him. Those that are instilled
when one is dreaming makes him steady, Questioner: I have only done Your
it decreases the restlessness slightly. If darshan in person today. However, when
darshan of the Gnani takes place in a I was ill, I had read your books, and at
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that time I had darshan of your eyes and else gets your darshan, then what are you
your forehead. What is that? experiencing at that moment?
Dadashri: This darshan of Dada’s Dadashri: Actually, it is like this,
can be done even while walking down the for ‘our’ darshan to have happened is a
street. He will even converse with you. If different thing, and when does it come
you have the inner intent, then He will into experience for me? It is when the
even converse with you. He converses other person’s level is set, then I know
with you, you can hear Him, He indeed that this person has picked up the ‘phone’.
does everything. Otherwise, I do not have any inkling.
Questioner: He [this man] had never Questioner: Who sets that level?
actually physically seen you before. How is the level set?
Dadashri: Yes, even then He is Dadashri: That much capacity
visible. Many people see Dada even if they should arise within you. When the capacity
have not physically seen Him. Darshan arises, then the level gets set. Then all the
happens for them, then they come and tell conversations take place, each and every
me that I was seen. They say, “You are word is heard. It can be heard even if
indeed the one I had darshan of.” you are in England. In fact, this is all a
Science (Vignan)!
Questioner: How is that possible?
After Doing Darshan Once, He
Dadashri: That is indeed the biggest Certainly Remains Present
wonder of this era of the time cycle, that
the One who roams about outside through Whoever has seen Dada in this body,
the subtle body, He indeed gives darshan whoever has done Dada’s darshan, for
anywhere. He roams about outside, in that person, Dada is then indeed present
America, in Mumbai, everywhere. ‘He’ (pratyaksh) for that person at any time.
roams about everywhere day and night, all A photo [of Dada] is kept just like that.
twenty-four hours. I am in fact here, but If there is no photo, then it will do.
Dada is continuously visible over there. Therefore, talk to [Dada] every day.
‘He’ even converses with you. If you ask Questioner: When you are here, at
me the next day, “Did you come at 3:30?” that time when we worship you, that is
Then I have to say yes. So that confusion considered direct worship. However, when
does not arise for you, I indeed have to say you are abroad, at that time if we do your
yes. And moreover, He speaks exactly the darshan, then is that considered pratyaksh
way I speak. Under those circumstances, [live in front of my eyes]?
one certainly feels that way. He writes it
down too. Moreover, he comes to drop me Dadashri: When ‘we’ are abroad,
off. He says, “I had come to drop you off that is a different thing, at that time, do
over there, to the car. I had held the chair darshan by looking at ‘our’ photo. Once
[you were sitting on] like this.” it [darshan] happens in person, then ‘we’
indeed appear as pratyaksh. You can
Questioner: When you are here, see ‘us’ on the street, you can see ‘us’
and somewhere else outside, somebody wherever you look.
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Even in a Photo, Exact Darshan of unlocked. Oneness with Dada is itself
Dada Is Done nididhyasan! It is when there is great
merit karma unfolding that such a
Questioner: Dada, when something thing materializes, and direct result of
big strikes in the mind or something like nididhyasan of the Gnani is attained.
that happens, then I go to Dada’s photo… That nididhyasan gives you energies
Dadashri: You converse over there. similar to His, it transforms you into that
form. This is because the Gnani’s form
Questioner: Yes, I converse. You is achintya chintamani (that which cannot
know that photo in which you are standing, be envisioned, yet makes you what you
I do vidhi (prayers that increase awareness envision), so it transforms one into that
as the Self) there every day by your feet form. The Gnani’s nididhyasan makes
before going to sleep. one absolutely independent (niralamb).
Dadashri: That is actually the exact Thereafter, one does not feel, ‘I did not
state. You should not believe that this get satsang today, I did not get darshan
Dada is different. That is why they have today.’ The Gnani himself is niralamb; in
taken a photo of ‘us’ standing. the same way, one must become niralamb,
through nididhyasan of the Gnani.
Oh! Not just ‘ours’, but even if you
As Familiarity Increases, Veils Will
do darshan of ‘our’ photo later on, even
Break
then the boat will sail across [the ocean
of worldly life]. Questioner: Many times, for
example, if someone has very much
Visualization of the Gnani Makes One
become deeply concentrated (ekakaar),
Absolutely Independent
then he gets your darshan while sitting
Questioner: Dada, the visualization at home, but what is that darshan like?
(nididhyasan) of yours that happens, your It is as if Dada Himself has appeared and
darshan that happens, what is that? What he undergoes the experience of touching
is the real Self (asal chaitanya)? your feet. So what is that?
Dadashri: ‘Our’ energy is attained Dadashri: That experience happens
directly. for the one who has physically seen ‘us’,
and that experience is true. Presently, after
Questioner: Is that the real Self? seeing ‘us’, Dada is continuously seen day
Dadashri: When you engage in and night in many mahatmas’ minds. ‘He’
nididhyasan, then the energy of the real even converses with them. Many people
Self arises within. The energy of the Self even say to ‘us’, “You had come with us,
comes along with the nididhyasan within. hadn’t you!” There are many who have
So tremendous energy increases within conversations in broad daylight. He [Dada]
you. That [the Self] cannot actually be meets everyone, conversations take place,
seen. because Dada’s subtle body keeps roaming
about everywhere outside. It roams about
The one for whom nididhyasan of the entire world and everyone indeed
Dada remains, all the ‘locks’ become experiences that.
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Questioner: Continuous connection Dadashri: Charansparsh exists
with Dada indeed carries on, just as when here, with the Gnani. The Gnani, meaning
you pick up the telephone receiver, I am the One in whom the absolute Self has
certainly talking to you. So this point is manifested. It can be done to the One in
correct, isn’t it? whom the absolute Self has manifested
within. Where the absolute Self of the
Dadashri: Yes, I had come to you
entire universe has manifested. And if one
twice tonight! And darshan even happens
knows how to take benefit of that, then he
for some people, it may even not happen
knows it. Otherwise, if he does not know
for some people, that is dependent upon
how to, then he may even end up doing
circumstances. the wrong thing. In fact, the engine of a
Questioner: Sometime, give me machine may actually run on five thousand
such darshan so that I can see you… volts, and it may even kill the inhabitants
of an entire village.
Dadashri: Yes, that will happen.
As your familiarity with ‘us’ increases, Questioner: If it is the science of
the veils will keep breaking. It is because tantra, then it would kill people.
of the veils between you and I, that you
Dadashri: This is, in fact, the
cannot see Him. Otherwise, He is such
Science of real God. It is such a Science
that you can continuously see Him. It is
that you receive what you ask for. You
continuous for some people, it does not
forget to ask. If recognition [of the Gnani]
become displaced for a single moment,
takes place, then demerit karma get
He is indeed continuously visible.
destroyed by just doing darshan. It first
When these people go to sleep at gets destroyed by doing darshan. Then
night, they are unable to fall asleep, but it gets destroyed by touching [the Gnani
they are indeed with Dada the entire night. Purush]. If one simply touches [the Gnani
Look how sharp they are! I ask, “Were Purush], even then it will get destroyed.
you able to fall asleep?” They respond, In addition, it gets destroyed through
“No, even if I cannot fall asleep, it does charansparsh. A lot of demerit karma get
not affect me in the slightest, not at all.” destroyed through Gnan Vidhi (the original
I say, “Then that is enough. What more scientific experiment for Self-realization),
do you need?” There is nididhyasan of the and a lot of it gets destroyed through the
One who is present. Nididhyasan does not fire of Knowledge (Gnanagni). The period,
take place of the One who is not present. in which the fire of Knowledge is present,
Darshan done of photos brings about everything gets reduced to ashes.
concentration.
Questioner: Through which means
The Importance of Charansparsh is it destroyed the most?
Questioner: When you have us Dadashri: Through the fire of
do charansparsh (touch the forehead or Knowledge. Otherwise, it is not possible
fingers to the Gnani’s big toe or foot) for awakened awareness of the Self
what custom is that, what is your purpose (jagruti) to remain for twenty-four hours
behind that? a day! [For worldly people] The entire
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day, one forgets everything of his, so Questioner: Is there any gross and
awareness would certainly never remain subtle intent behind charansparsh?
in such a case, would it!
Dadashri: This bondage only
The Link Gets Joined Through remains because of touch (sparsh). The
Charansparsh bondage of this world has indeed happened
through touch, and one can become
Questioner: In your books, the
free only through touch. However, one
importance of charansparsh has been
stated, the importance of touching the becomes free by touching the One who
Gnani Purush’s big toe and doing vidhi has become free, and one becomes bound
(auspicious silent blessings at the feet of by touching the one who is bound. That
the Gnani) there has been stated, so is is the reason for saying that moksha is in
there any scientific reason behind this? the Gnani’s feet; the Gnani Himself has
become free from bondage, He has become
Dadashri: Yes, there is constantly the liberated Self. ‘He’ is constantly only
only moksha in His feet. The Self in moksha. That is why you become free,
completely separates within. The feet it is natural. Did you get an explanation
are of the Gnani Purush, the liberated for that question?
One, and if you happen to touch them,
and your own heart is clean to a certain Questioner: Yes. If the inner intent
extent, then you indeed become free. of total surrender (samarpan bhaav) is not
‘Moksha is certainly in the feet of the there in the mind, then is there actually
Gnani Purush’; this is what the scriptures any point of doing charansparsh?
are trying convey. They state, ‘Moksha Dadashri: No, then there is no point
is not anywhere else, the first moksha of that; it is meaningless. If the inner
lies there.’ Therefore, ‘we’ have to offer intent is not there, then it is meaningless.
‘our’ feet, whereas people outside cannot It means that one does it to show others.
offer their feet, because all their energies Nevertheless, there is a benefit. What
will get drawn away. In fact, tremendous kind [of benefit]? His hunger is satisfied,
energy arises for ‘us’, so if it gets drawn, but he does not get any ‘taste’. Only his
we have no problem with that. Otherwise, hunger is satisfied.
they cannot be offered, a person would
actually die [become powerless] if he Questioner: It could also be that all
does so. Therefore, charansparsh does not those people who do your charansparsh
happen anywhere else, it does not happen may not have the inner intent of total
the way it does here. They merely touch surrender.
their heads [on the feet of their guru].
Otherwise, bowing down from a distance Dadashri: When you do charans-
will carry on everywhere. parsh, you are actually touching the feet
of the original God within. ‘He’ cannot
Therefore, the scripture writers have be seen with these eyes, but when you
clearly written, ‘Moksha is certainly in the obtain these divine eyes (divya chakshu),
Gnani Purush’s feet, that is the scientific then you will feel, ‘Oh ho ho!’ The dar-
way.’ The Self should completely separate shan you were doing of God, through that
within. charansparsh, a link enters within. A link
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within means a link with the God within Questioner: Absolute contentment
you. Those two links get joined immedi- (trupti) has happened for me through
ately upon doing charansparsh. Just as by your darshan.
pressing a button, the light turns on; that
is how all this is. Dadashri: Yes, that is it. A lot of
work can be accomplished through this
Questioner: If someone does cha- darshan. [Such] Darshan does not exist
ransparsh and does not have a good inten- [anywhere else], does it! As you have
tion, then would you actually know that? come across this, your salvation will
happen. Even if you do darshan, it is more
Dadashri: ‘We’ do not give any
than enough. Only darshan; if you have
attention to that. ‘We’, in fact, continue
touched these feet, if you cannot do more,
to turn his mind around so that a good
then even if you have touched these feet
intention arises in him. Why would ‘we’
one time, then it is more than enough!
hold on to a bad intent? Why would ‘we’
make the effort and hold onto a bad intent? Questioner: Darshan happened and
I actually say, “Why not eat tastefully, with I touched [your feet]; the effect of that
enjoyment? Why eat this tasteless food?” will surely remain on the Self.
Questioner: But if someone is doing Dadashri: Presently, however many
charansparsh by imitating others, then demerit karma that can be destroyed by
what would he achieve? seeing the Gnani Purush, all those have
Dadashri: There is no problem if it been destroyed. However many demerit
is done by imitating others, he will still karma are destroyed by seeing God, that
benefit from it. However, if his mind turns much darshan has been done. You have
around and if he does it with his heart, been made as light as a flower, and Dada
then his work gets done. will keep coming to memory now. Dada
Bhagwan will be continuously visible.
With Charansparsh, One Becomes
Joined With the Self In the Gnani Purush, Darshan of Both
the Visible and Invisible Are Done
Questioner: I touched Your feet
just now, with that, I suddenly got cold Here, in human form, who can
shivers, I got goosebumps. And as if in be considered the principal God with a
a dream, I started crying. What is that? physical form (saakaar Bhagwan)? The
Gnani Purush, in whom, in human form,
Dadashri: It has been said that the niranjan-nirakaar (free of karma,
moksha is in the feet of the Gnani Purush. formless) has manifested, He is referred
So the start of becoming free takes place to as God with a physical form.
there. One becomes joined with the Self.
You felt some change within, didn’t you? Questioner: But if I want to imagine
the Self in any sort of form, how should
Questioner: It is because I felt a I imagine it?
change that I asked you, didn’t I! Because I
have actually done darshan of many saints. Dadashri: The Self does not have a
form. There is no scope for imagining it
Dadashri: Yes, that is true. with a form; instead, sit with a God who
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has a physical form. God with a physical is done through the divine eyes, so darshan
form is Himself the form of the Self! The of both is done together.
One who is the Knower of the Self (Atma
Gnani) with a physical body, He is referred Questioner: This can be Known and
to as God with a physical form. Do His that can also be Known.
darshan along with His entire body temple Dadashri: Yes, both happen. The
[the body in which God has manifested]. One who has had darshan of his own Self;
No one except for the Gnani Purush You have Seen the Self within You, so
has awareness of the amurt (invisible; the You have Seen it in everyone. The One
Self), the amurt has not separated [within who Knows his own Self, Knows the
from the murt, the visible]. As long as Self of others too. Upon Knowing one,
the amurt has not become separate, the He Knows all. The One who Knows the
one with a physical body is considered Self Knows everything. There is nothing
as a murti, whereas in Him [the Gnani left to be Known.
Purush], it has become separate, so He Questioner: ‘Upon doing darshan
is murt-amurt (visible and invisible). It with abhedta (oneness), the amurt was
has become separate in the Gnani Purush ultimately found.’
Himself, so it has been written [that He
is] visible and invisible, and for whomever Dadashri: You did Darshan of the
it has become separate, He is considered Gnani Purush with oneness, that is why
visible and invisible. ‘He’ is visible and You attained the amurt state. In infinite
invisible, too; the two are separate. lives, one worships God in a form only
(murt Bhagwan). The body that was
Visible (murt or murti) means that believed to be ‘I’ is all entirely gone, and
it comes in use to do His darshan, so ‘I’ have taken [a permanent] seat in the
His darshan can be done through the state of the amurt.
[five] senses. And darshan of the invisible
(amurt) can also be done, by those who Without meeting a sajeevan murti
have received Gnan through the Gnani [the murt-amurt, the Gnani Purush] one
Purush. It is possible to do darshan of cannot become amurt. Dependency on an
both. Whereas in this worldly life, in the idol (murti) will make one murt, whereas
relative, darshan of only the visible is dependency on the amurt will make one
done. Right now, when you do darshan of amurt.
Simandhar Swami, then only darshan of
When the relative does darshan of
the visible is done, darshan of the invisible
the relative, it indeed remains relative.
is not done. Darshan of the invisible
Only when the amurt does darshan of the
cannot be done without the divine eyes
Real, does it go into the Real.
[through which the real and the relative
are Seen with two separate viewpoints]. For as long as darshan of the amurt
Therefore, for those who have received the does not happen, for as long as the Gnani
divine eyes, they are able to do darshan Purush does not have you do Darshan of
of the invisible as well as of the visible. the amurt, worship the murti (the visible).
Darshan of the visible is done through the And when One worships the amurt, that is
physical eyes, and darshan of the invisible when moksha happens. You have actually
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been worshipping the murti for infinite (purna) darshan. If one were to come and
lives, haven’t you? The amurt as well do darshan just once, then it would be
as the murti is within the Gnani Purush. more than enough. On that day, ‘we’ do
The Gnani Purush is murt-amurt, so by not get into, “Welcome Chandubhai,” or
worshipping Him, moksha happens. “Welcome so and so.” ‘We’ prevail in the
absolute state as the Self (purna bhaav),
The Self Manifests Through Darshan whereas on other days, ‘we’ would call
of the Manifest Gnani you, ‘we’ would even acknowledge you.
Through the Gnani Purush, one On that day [Gurupurnima day], neither
is to do Darshan of one’s own Self. As do ‘we’ acknowledge you nor do ‘we’
long as that experience of the Self within call you. At that time, ‘we’ are in advaita
does not happen, the Gnani Purush is my bhaav (in a non-dualistic state; as the
own Self (Atma). Therefore, you should absolute Self only), and right now ‘we’
keep doing darshan of the Gnani Purush. have to be in dwaita bhaav (in a dualistic
But truly speaking, You should continue state; as the Self and as the non-Self).
the process of manifesting of your own It is such that on [the Hindu] New
Self. However, as long as the clear and Year’s Day (bestu varas), Janmajayanti
distinct experience (spashta vedan) of your (Dadashri’s birthday) and Gurupurnima,
own Self does not happen, until then, the ultimate darshan happens, darshan of the
Gnani Purush is your own Self; proceed full moon happens.
with that belief.
Questioner: That is true.
It is considered worth doing darshan
of the One who lives with His own intrinsic Dadashri: Whereas on any normal
nature. It is useful if you recognize Him day, darshan of the fourteenth day and
and then do darshan. thirteenth day of the lunar phase happens.
Yes, when conversations about worldly
Change takes place merely through interaction are going on here, then it even
the presence of the Gnani Purush. I becomes [similar to] the thirteenth day and
have not given any sermon [satsang], twelfth day of the lunar phase.
nevertheless, change takes place simply
through the environment. Questioner: Dada’s complete form
is present on three days of the year;
In the State of Complete Advaita Gurupurnima, Diwali, and Janmajayanti.
Bhaav on Gurupurnima So what is the importance of Diwali?
Questioner: ‘You’ do satsang and Dadashri: On the day of Diwali,
on Gurupurnima day ‘you’ give darshan, two to five thousand people are to do
so is there actually a difference between darshan, so they all come together on that
the two? pretext! So there is no other importance,
Dadashri: There is a great difference. it’s just what ‘we’ decide on. So then
Here, in satsang, you can say that ‘I’ have accordingly, we remain [in the absolute
come out [of the absolute Self-state]. Self-state]. And this definitely happens on
Whereas that darshan is very great; Gurupurnima. On the day of Janmajayanti,
that is actually considered as complete it is even better.
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Such days come twice in twelve of others), is being done, it does not remain
months; they do not come every day. later. And as long as absolute Knowledge
One is Gurupurnima and the other is (keval Gnan) is not attained, one cannot
Janmajayanti. So ‘we’ told everyone, [constantly] remain in the complete state.
“Make it into one.” Why spend thirty Now, when it is ‘our’ Janmajayanti, at that
thousand rupees for it? They reply, “No, time, ‘we’ are clear the entire day; just
we want to add an extra day to this. If come and do ‘our’ darshan! That is, in
we find out the day you received Gnan fact, complete darshan, it is not considered
in Surat, then we want to add that.” Hey ordinary, is it! When it is Gurupurnima or
mortal one, why are you trying to add someday like that, at that time that darshan
to this? exists; it gives result that is the equivalent
Darshan of the Completely to that of four months. The darshan today
Manifested One is not like that, whereas at that time, there
is complete vitaraag darshan.
Questioner: Dada, whenever the
events of your birthday and Gurupurnima Questioner: It is vitaraag darshan!
take place, the darshan that happens at Dadashri: There is no interference
that time are different. I had gotten that at all at that time, is there! On that day,
darshan properly in Khambhat [a town in [‘we’ don’t say,] “Come Chandubhai,” or
Gujarat, India]. anything like that. Right now, [‘we’ say,]
Dadashri: Yes, different darshan “Come Chandubhai, come, what is going
happens then; that is why ‘we’ tell you on with you? There is such interference,
to come do darshan on that day. That [whereas on that day,] ‘we’ do not get
darshan can certainly not be described. At into such interference, do ‘we’! On that
that time, there is complete manifestation day, there is full darshan. On that day,
[of the Lord within]. ‘we’ do not get involved in matters of
worldly life.
Questioner: So what is complete
darshan? In the Complete State, the ‘Moon’ of
the Self Blooms
Dadashri: Complete means that
Questioner: On the day of
which is referred to as God; don’t you
Gurupurnima, Janmajayanti, and Diwali,
refer to idols when you see them, such
as, ‘This is Lord Rushabhdev, this is Lord is it true that complete 360 degrees remain
Mahavir, this is Lord Krishna’? Some for you?
people can see it, some people cannot see Dadashri: Yes, they remain. On
it, but at that time, it is complete. that day, ‘we’ do not get involved in
[saying], “Come Chandubhai,” there is no
When ‘our’ Janmajayanti is
celebrated, if you come there, ‘we’ are interference, so on that day everyone gets
in the complete state at that time, ‘we’ full darshan, and they get a lot of benefit.
are in the complete state the entire day. Three days are the most auspicious
Right now, that state remains during the for us; one is [the Hindu] New Year’s Day,
time this vidhi (silent auspicious blessings then Janmajayanti, and Gurupurnima.
performed by the Gnani for the salvation On those days, there are no external
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interactions with anyone, so ‘we’ are (internal envisioning) exclusively of Dada
one with the complete state! I, the Gnani remains constantly, twenty-four hours a
Purush, am one within that Real state day. We do not want anything else.
[Dada Bhagwan], so the benefit of that
is gained! That is why doing darshan is Dadashri: That actually remains
of importance! when ‘we’ go around in the procession,
when one does darshan in the procession.
That is why ‘we’ insist upon So it remains on Janmajayanti day.
everyone, “If you do not do darshan
on an ordinary day, then it’s fine, but Questioner: That is true, Dada.
do it on that day.” This is because the Dadashri: When ‘we’ go around in
complete energies of the Self (sampurna the procession, then nididhyasan remains
aishwarya) are manifest on that day. As for you. At that time, it is clear, it is in
all the tendencies of the chit (chitvruttio) the full phase.
have become completely pure, complete
energies of the Self arise. When you do Upon Doing Darshan of the Gnani,
darshan of that aishwarya (energies of the the Mind Is Appeased
Self), your aishwarya manifests! When it is ‘our’ Janmajayanti,
The Absolute Self Manifests in or else when ‘we’ give darshan while
Darshan Given in the General Sense entering satsang, ‘we’ give clear darshan
for that extent of time. It does not unfold
On this Gurupurnima [in 1980], half on its own; it is given. So it is given
of the town of Khambhat did darshan. without the ego. So even the ego of the
Today, when the procession went around, bhokta (sufferer of that which happens)
half of the town did darshan. This is
which remains is not [present].
because on this day, the blessings are very
elevated, and when only the two of us are Questioner: The ego of the bhokta
sitting, then ‘we’ simply get involved in that exists [in discharge] does not function
conversing with you. ‘We’ remain in ‘our’ at that time.
Gnan, but when spontaneous conversation
takes place, there is an effect. Whereas Dadashri: At that time, ‘we’ are
when there are a lot of people, ‘we’ remain displaying the full Self; a Seer (jonaar)
in darshan, ‘we’ remain in a general sense is needed. Otherwise, how would all the
(samanya bhaave). During that general people attain this; it would never fall into
sense, the manifestation of the absolute place within. This actually settles within.
Self is visible, so even strangers who do Questioner: It settles, yes.
darshan benefit.
Dadashri: Yes, one forgets the
Questioner: Dada, the bliss on entire world!
everyone’s face was different.
Questioner: Worldly life is forgotten.
Dadashri: The bliss was entirely
different, yes. Dadashri: Wasn’t your mind
satisfied?
Questioner: Dada, everyone here
only wants the blessings that nididhyasan Questioner: It was satisfied.
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Dadashri: Yes, it actually gets right now, if there are two people doing
satisfied. Such darshan never exists, not darshan, the state is different at that time,
ever. That which is beyond this world when there are a hundred people coming
(alaukikta) is never to be found, is it! to do darshan, the state is different at that
time, when there are three hundred people,
Dada Extends the Invitation for the state is different at that time, and on
Janmajayanti that day, there are two to five thousand
Definitely come during Janmajayanti, people who come to do darshan; at that
everyone gets together during that time. time, the state of is of a different kind, it is
When ‘our’ Janmajayanti is being that of Dada Bhagwan. If one simply does
celebrated, darshan of the absolute Self darshan, then he will attain the equivalent
Himself is done at that time, so people’s of that of one hundred days; so do not
work gets done, doesn’t it! That darshan miss out on such an opportunity. Those
will be something entirely different! It is who can take [the opportunity, should take
full darshan, that is why people race to it]; for those who cannot, there is simply
come [here], and an entire assembly of no solution for that. ‘We’ merely give
people come together and their darshan you the understanding, to understand or
can be done, isn’t it! Darshan of mahatmas not understand is in your hands. Somehow
can be done! They come from Mumbai, or another, come and bring your entire
from Ahmedabad, from Madras, from family.
Kolkata; so take advantage of this. The Open to Sky Self, Which Is the
Embodiment of Love
Wherever ‘we’ are, you should
all come and do darshan, and ‘our’ Darshan of vitaraagata took place,
Janmajayanti is going to be celebrated darshan of the unveiled Self, all the
in Ahmedabad, come there too. The darshan took place today. The unveiled
commotion will last for ten days there. Self moved about starting from here,
Make a trip there for two to four days! We all the way to the tent. While eating,
are making all the arrangements for food the unveiled Self was not there. Before
and lodging there. What other difficulty eating, the unveiled Self was there, indeed
will you have there? But there, Dada’s uncovered. No body, the open to sky
darshan happens. What happens? Self moved about today in the carriage,
and twenty-five hundred people did
Questioner: Darshan happens. darshan, and that too, they did darshan
Dadashri: On Janmajayanti day, if of the open to sky [Self]. Their salvation
you do darshan from a slight distance, then indeed happened, didn’t it! The world
on that day you get to see vitaraagata. has never seen such love. Love in which
there is not even a drop of attachment or
Janmajayanti and Gurupurnima, on abhorrence. Yet there is no attachment;
those two days, darshan of the complete they have tenacious love for Dada, yet
state as the Self (purna Swaroop) happens there is no attachment. There is not even
and many kinds of shortcomings of prashasta raag (attachment of the highest
yours get fractured. That state itself is kind, which leads to liberation). Prashasta
of a different kind on that day, whereas raag has set in before, but there is no
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prashasta raag today. There is only love the equivalent of a hundred lifetimes of
and love is the absolute Self. Pure love saiyam. The result of a hundred lifetimes
is the absolute Self, it does not increase of saiyam; that is the amount of boost
or decrease. Did it increase or decrease you are getting today. If saiyam has been
even for a minute, hmm? practiced for a hundred lifetimes, and for
that, say there is this much of a boost;
Questioner: It was constant.
you have received that much here, today,
Dadashri: ‘We’ were sitting from in just one day. Then it is according to
eight o’clock until one o’clock, for five whatever understanding one has, but one
hours. The procession started at eight has received a more or less amount of
o’clock, the Self joined the procession, it. Even those with no understanding
two open carriages with two horses. This whatsoever have this.
was, in fact, the uncovered Self, unveiled,
If it is one of those [three] days and
the open Self.
you come, then it is more than enough.
A Boost Equivalent to a Hundred This doesn’t mean you should stop other
Lifetimes of Saiyam Is Received Purusharth (progress as the Self). ‘It is
more than enough,’ does not mean that
Questioner: Your vitaraagata was you should think that many people do not
visible. come [to satsang] and it is fine if they
Dadashri: When is vitaraagata do not come. If they cannot come, then
visible? It is only when there is an their circumstances must be so, all their
Akram Gnani that vitaraagata is visible. circumstances must be that way, but if
Vitaraagata cannot be seen in the [other] they do darshan like this one day, then
Gnanis [of the Kramik path]. There, it is more than enough. However, the one
saiyam (anger-pride-deceit-greed that is who does Purusharth should not stop that
within control) is visible. What is visible? Purusharth. This is because such a path
to liberation will not come about again.
Questioner: Saiyam is visible. A path in which one can attain moksha in
Dadashri: That saiyam then be- one, two, or three lifetimes will not come
comes asaiyam (expression of anger, about again. And moksha will indeed be
pride, deceit, and greed), there is such attained in a maximum of fifteen lifetimes.
saiyam, too. Vitaraagata is not there. So why maintain any other expectations?
That is the Kramik path. So you have Is this correct, or not?
seen this vitaraagata, haven’t you? With a Clear Vision, Complete
And you have seen vitaraag love, too, Darshan Happens
haven’t you? And you have seen what
your state was like, too, haven’t you? Questioner: When it is Gurupurnima
Wouldn’t one know the level of his or Janmajayanti, if we do Dada’s darshan
own state? The Self is a thermometer; on those days, then do our obstacles go
the Self Knows all about Chandubhai’s away?
(the relative self’s) state.
Dadashri: If your vision is open
The boost people get on those and pure, then complete darshan happens.
days by doing darshan, that boost is Darshan of the complete 360 degrees
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happens, if your vision is open. If it is percent darshan of the complete state as
hazy, then would such darshan happen? the Self happens.
Questioner: If our vision is clear, Dadashri: If you do it eighty
then darshan of 360 happens; what is that percent, then it will be eighty percent.
like? What does it mean for our vision However much one has set on it, he will
to be clear? get accordingly.
Dadashri: If your antahkaran is Questioner: But this Janmajayanti
pure, no other thoughts from outside arise, and Gurupurnima, the darshan that we
and if everything goes well for even an get on those two days!
hour, for forty-eight minutes, then the Dadashri: Clear darshan happens
vision becomes clear. Just as if you want there.
to see something in a mirror, then if you
clean [the mirror], then it becomes clear. Questioner: That clear darshan
On that day, complete darshan happens, happens, but in that too, there is more or
of 360 degrees, and if you come on an less some difference in the complete state
ordinary day, then ‘we’ intervene by for each person, isn’t there?
saying, “Do this and do that.” Complete Dadashri: Yes, that difference is
darshan does not happen at that time. in proportion to each person’s capacity.
However, when ‘we’ give Gnan, at that However, one would get the benefit of
time ‘we’ exist in [complete] darshan. clear [darshan].
Questioner: Dada, when I say the Questioner: The divine darshan of
last verse of that devotional song, ‘Deha Dada that happens, meaning that when I
chhata jeni dasha...(Despite having a body, look at Dada, He appears to be glowing,
the One whose state…)’ at that time, your or I can see Him in different states, He
complete darshan happens [for me]. can be seen in whatever way I wish [to
see Him]. That divine darshan happens
Dadashri: Yes, all that is visible,
and this complete state as the Self that
that is natural. That can even be seen if
happens, is there any relationship between
your vision is open! It depends upon the
the two?
vision, upon your mirror. Someone else’s
mirror will be of no use. Everything is Dadashri: There is indeed, there is
indeed there; one should be able to see it. a relationship. Divine darshan takes you
higher. Now in reference to this complete
State of Completion Through Darshan state as the Self (purna swaroop), your
of the Complete State conviction sets in towards the state of
Questioner: But isn’t it true that completeness, towards Your own Self, that
once a person sees the complete state as this state of completeness will happen.
the Self (purna Swaroop), darshan of the Darshan of the Lord of the Fourteen
complete state happens, then one himself Worlds
also comes into the complete state as the
Self? For example, if I recognize Dada Questioner: Dada, exceptional
one hundred percent, then one hundred peace prevails for us in Your presence.
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Dadashri: As a matter of fact, this difference between the Gnani and Dada
presence is a completely different thing! Bhagwan?
My presence is actually visible to you, but
Dadashri: The difference between
the presence of the One whom I can See,
the Gnani and God (Bhagwan) is that the
the presence of that One also prevails for
You. The Lord of the fourteen worlds, the Gnani is able to understand everything,
Lord of the entire universe has manifested He is able to See everything, but He is
within; I benefit from that too and so not able to Know everything. This one
do you. This much proximity is needed; who is visible, he is a Patel from [the
that is all. However close one is, there is town of] Bhadran and ‘we’ are the Gnani
that much benefit, and the surrounding Purush and Dada Bhagwan is separate, He
environment certainly remains pleasant. is indeed the absolute Self (Parmatma)!
In that too, the environment makes a ‘He’ is the Lord of the fourteen worlds.
difference! Nevertheless, there is benefit For ‘us’, the 360 degrees did not
in close proximity, and that too if the get completely digested and it stopped at
understanding is there, there is no benefit 356 degrees. That is why the separation
if there is no understanding. remains between ‘I’ (the Gnani Purush)
That is why I say that the One who and the Lord who has manifest within.
shows me the mistakes is the Lord of the And had ‘I’ digested the 360 degrees,
fourteen worlds. Do darshan of this Lord then we both would have become one.
of the fourteen worlds. Who is the One But now this separation has remained.
who shows the mistakes? The Lord of the This is because such a nimit (evidentiary
fourteen worlds! doer instrumental in the process) must
have been necessary, to do the work [of
And I have actually seen that Dada salvation] of people, that is why this
Bhagwan, and He resides in the complete separation has remained. So for whatever
state within, I am giving the guarantee time ‘we’ remain one with God, there is
of this. I, myself, worship Him, don’t I! a sense of oneness, for that much time,
And I tell you too, “Dear fellow, come ‘we’ are in the Absolute state; however,
and do darshan.” Dada Bhagwan is 360 when ‘we’ speak, it is different.
degrees and mine is 356 degrees. So
we are both separate, has this become The Gnani Purush Is Himself the
proven or not? Absolute Self in the Body
Questioner: Yes, of course! Questioner: ‘You’ are actually the
Self, so then which part within You is
Dadashri: We are both separate.
the Gnani?
The One who has manifested within,
He is Dada Bhagwan. He has become Dadashri: To whatever extent One
completely manifested, the brilliantly has become the Self, to that extent He
radiant state of Light (Jyoti swaroop)! is the Gnani. The Self has expressed
There Is This Much Difference to the level of 356 degrees, so ‘we’ are
Between the Gnani and God the Gnani of 356 degrees. The Self is
the Gnani indeed, but the veil (avaran)
Questioner: But Dada, what is the should be lifted. However much the veil
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is lifted, if the veil over all 360 degrees is another person who has been a collector
is removed, then One becomes Absolute. for twenty years, he gets promoted as a
If the veil over 356 degrees is removed, commissioner at this time. So a month
then a veil of four degrees is still there. before becoming a commissioner, he was
‘You’ have a veil that covers many more a collector and so was the one who was
degrees. Gradually, Your veils will start to recently made a collector. But they cannot
break. The One whose veils are shattered be considered as being the same. That man
is indeed a Gnani. It is because of the may become a commissioner tomorrow,
veils that one appears as an agnani (not and it will take longer for the new one to
Self-realized). become a commissioner; he may become
one after twenty years.
The 356 degrees is of the Antaratma
(the interim state of the Self), and the Questioner: Dadaji, you say, “God
360 degrees is of the Parmatma (absolute resides within, and I am at 356 degrees,”
Self). After attaining this Gnan, even You however, the Self is just one.
are the Antaratma and ‘we’ too are the Dadashri: God resides within, I am
Antaratma. ‘We’ are at 356 degrees. at 356 degrees, to talk about that is con-
Questioner: In Darshan, One is at sidered regular; in detail, it is indeed like
360 degrees. It is this way solely because this. So what is this like? The collector
the degrees have not come in Gnan, is has remained a collector for twenty years,
that it? he definitely knows that he is going to
be promoted to a commissioner any day
Dadashri: But that state cannot be now. In the same way, the Gnani also
counted, can it? Yet Shrimad Rajchandra Knows that there is no telling how soon
said with an open heart, “The Gnani He will attain 360 degrees. So He Knows
Purush is indeed the absolute Self in a of His own complete state. But He tells
body-form.” Why did He say that? ‘He’ people what His current state is. In this
did not say this to gain more prestige Knowledge of the Vitaraag Lords, not
for Himself, but so that if You pursue even slightest of falsehood or irregularity
Him, then Your work [of salvation] will will work here. That which is, has to be
be accomplished, otherwise You will not said exactly as it is, and for that which is
accomplish it at all. Without manifestation not, it has to be said ‘it is not’. It cannot
of the absolute Self in the body-form, One be said ‘it is’ for that which ‘it is not’. If
can never accomplish his task. ‘He’ [the someone were to try and make ‘us’ say
Gnani Purush] is indeed the absolute Self such a thing, then ‘we’ would say, “No,
in body-form. ‘we’ are now powerless, ‘our’ energies no
Questioner: When you say, “This is longer work in that.” One can never make
a Gnani Purush,” what are you hinting at? anyone say, ‘it is’ to that which ‘is not’.

Dadashri: The Antaratma! That The Gnani’s Compassion


Antaratma will indeed become the ‘You’ will encounter everyone else
Parmatma after four degrees. Say there is in the world, but You will not encounter
one collector, who has recently become a ‘I’, the Gnani, Ambalal. Who is the ‘I’?
collector, since just a year ago, and there The ‘I’ is Dada Bhagwan, ‘we’ are the
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Gnani, and Ambalal is a Patel. ‘I’, the Dadashri: It had never been divulged
Gnani, Ambalal will not be encountered. before. ‘We’ have actually walked each
This circumstance will not materialize; all and every step, all the way to the end.
other circumstances will materialize. God
Questioner: Neither in the scriptures,
Himself will not manifest. Here, He has.
nor anyone else has been able to show this
‘He’ is the Lord of the entire universe;
internal Science.
‘we’ give the guarantee of that. However
much a connection one makes, that is all Dadashri: It is never found! No one
his for the keeping. knows about it at all!
Actually, it is ‘we’ who are making Questioner: There is the Self and
these three divisions. ‘I’, the Gnani, there is the pudgal (non-Self complex);
Ambalal; there is compassion behind that is all.
making these three divisions. In reality,
there are only two divisions; Dada Dadashri: That is there right until
Bhagwan and Ambalal, there are only two. the end and when One attains absolute
But the reason for making three divisions Knowledge (keval Gnan), He will not
is that the living beings of this Dushamkaal speak of it. Even ‘we’ never speak of this,
(current era of the time cycle characterized ‘we’ only spoke today. This is because
by a lack of unity in people’s thought, ‘we’ remain in the Absolute state; only
speech, and activity) are suspicious. On in the 360 degrees. ‘We’ do not remain
the contrary, unnecessary doubts ruin in both. Darshan occurs at 356 degrees
everything for him. So to avoid any doubt, and ‘we’ remain at 360 degrees. So there
these three divisions are made. is a great benefit for the one doing ‘our’
darshan! Right now, while ‘we’ are
He will feel at peace. Yes, it is to talking, such a benefit cannot be gained.
ensure that his craziness does not arise
now. [So that] Those who have come Dada’s Darshan Grants Ultimate
here do not run away, do not wander off Liberation
from here. What are ‘we’ trying to convey? It
Therefore, my only concern is how was not likely that you would ever meet
these people can attain salvation. And that the Lord of the fourteen worlds as easily
is the very purpose for my birth. as this. Yet you have met Him through
this Dada. What has happened?
The Mystery Has Been Revealed
Through Akram Vignan Questioner: We have met Him
through Dada.
Actually, however much is revealed
is correct, otherwise it is not likely to Dadashri: Yes. Therefore, Dada
come out. Apart from the [right] Vision says, “Get your work done.” Why is that? It
(drashti), it can never be revealed. It is for is because you will not meet such a Lord.
You that ‘we’ are saying all this. ‘One’ in whom the Lord manifests, such
a person is vitaraag. And the Lord has
Questioner: But Akram Vignan manifested here, while ‘we’ remain as a
has revealed the entire mystery of the meddlesome (khatpatiya) vitaraag, so ‘we’
Knowledge of the inner science. have been caught ahold of. That is why
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‘we’ are saying, “Get your work done.” Questioner: Absolutely?
It will grant the entire state of completion
Dadashri: Yes, absolutely.
(purnahuti). It will even speedily destroy
all the losses of infinite lifetimes. Questioner: And that darshan was
Questioner: When will realization of Dada [the fully enlightened Lord]?
of the absolute God (Sacchidanand Dadashri: Yes, absolutely separate.
Parabrahma) happen for all of us?
Questioner: So there was no
Dadashri: It will happen. You have experience before that, was there? Before
started doing Dada’s darshan, so that that moment when Dada and he [A.M.
indeed has started to happen within. That Patel] became separate, did you feel that
is indeed what is happening within. The something was going to happen prior to
Lord of the fourteen worlds is present that?
here. Then what more can ‘we’ scream
and shout about this? Is the ‘train’ going Dadashri: No, it was ordinary…a
to depart? Do you all understand that the certain type of peace remained a lot.
‘train’ may depart? Questioner: Prior to that?
Questioner: Yes, the train to moksha Dadashri: A lot of peace would
will depart. remain. But that is considered peace
Dadashri: No, the Lord of the associated with the ego; that is of no use,
fourteen worlds has manifested, this is it! That remains even for those who are
darshan will not happen again. Otherwise, ignorant of the Self (agnani), it remains
He is manifest only in the Tirthankar for everyone. The peace that prevails in
Lords. the state of ignorance, of what use is that?
If one were to sell it in the market, then
Dada Himself Does Darshan of the no one would pay money for it, not even
Dada Within four annas [former unit of currency]. If a
Questioner: How does Dada [the dog has eaten two slices of bread, then it
Gnani Purush] do darshan of the Dada would remain even for the dog.
within [the fully enlightened Lord]?
Questioner: So that was actually
Dadashri: Darshan continues to peace that causes restlessness, wasn’t it?
happen naturally for ‘us’. ‘We’ remain It was actually temporary, wasn’t it, Dada?
only in that, so darshan indeed continues
Dadashri: Peace did not remain
to happen. ‘We’ do not remain in the
permanently even for me. When difficulties
external [in the relative] at all, do ‘we’!
arose, then even restlessness would arise.
Questioner: But Dada, I am asking That state was indeed different for me! It is
about when You attained Gnan at Surat not possible for that state to be described.
station. How did darshan happen at that There are no words for that, are there?
time?
Questioner: So at that station,
Dadashri: It felt as though ‘I’ had Dada’s bliss was indeed unique, wasn’t it!
become separated from this [A.M. Patel]. It was an entirely different bliss, but you
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must have experienced that bliss, isn’t it, meddling extends to the point that others
Dada? When Dada became separate, the attain the happiness ‘we’ have. ‘We’ will
bliss of that time was indeed different, have everyone attain it, and then ‘we’ will
wasn’t it? Or was it not like that? go [to final liberation]. The entire world is
struggling like fish [out of water]. Monks,
Dadashri: It became separate with
renouncers, male and female ascetics and
all the properties, the Knower-Seer- all, are struggling like fish [out of water].
absolute bliss. ‘I’ was not in the body, ‘We’ can see all that, but what can ‘we’
not in the speech, not in the mind; that do? ‘We’ have a strong desire, that is
is how separate it had become. That was why at the age of seventy-nine, how many
something altogether different. That is hours do ‘we’ work?
considered the attainment of Gnan; that is
considered the spontaneous attainment of Questioner: Eighteen hours, Dada.
Gnan! Gnan itself is the Atma (the Self). Dadashri: ‘We’ work eighteen
Dada’s Endless Compassion hours and ‘we’ do not have even a single
day off. On the contrary, on the day of
So you should nurture the intention, Diwali, ‘we’ have a lot more work.
‘Dada, keep me with you in this lifetime
or the two lifetimes that remain and give Upon Understanding the Value, One
me this devotion (bhakti).’ Now, how Will Not Let Go
much value must there be of sitting here Now, it is not worth idly spending
for an hour? It is according to one’s the time away; years have passed by. What
understanding. One who does not have is the value of this darshan? As long
the understanding has value according to as one does not understand the value of
his capacity. However, how much value this, he will not get the ‘taste’ of it. The
must one with understanding have? ‘taste’ will come only if it is understood!
Questioner: Dada, you had said that If the value of a diamond is understood
by sitting in your presence; all the places to be worth twenty-five billion, then that
of pilgrimage that exist in India, if we were much happiness arises. And if its value
to go on a pilgrimage to those places, then is [understood to be] five billion, [then
we would receive a greater result by sitting that much happiness arises]. And then if
in your presence and doing your darshan. the value of the very same diamond is
understood to be five hundred thousand,
Dadashri: Therefore, the value of then that much happiness arises. It is not
this cannot be measured. However much a very easy thing to understand. This is
understanding one has, he reaps that much because some have been around me since
benefit. For ‘us’, it is not like ‘we’ want to childhood, so I have even taught them the
give benefit or ‘we’ want to reap benefit, meaning of the Navkar mantra (mantra
nothing like that exists. ‘Our’ intention is paying obeisance to all beings of the uni-
may the world attain the bliss ‘we’ have verse in various stages of Self-realization)
attained. The past [Gnanis] were all vi- when they were young. These days when
taraag, while ‘we’ are khatpatiya vitaraag ‘we’ go to America, ‘we’ stay at their
(the fully detached One, who meddles for house. When ‘we’ go there, they say, “You
the sake of the salvation of others). The are to stay at our place.” However, they
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cannot fully understand this, can they? If (era of the time cycle that is characterized
they were to completely understand this by unity in thoughts, speech, and action)
state, that it is a state that is beyond this within Kaliyug. ‘He’ makes one realize
world (alaukik Swaroop); it is a state that that Satyug was not like this.
people have not heard about, they have not
Questioner: Dada, stay here for
read about, they have not known about. It
five days.
is very difficult to explain this, isn’t it? If
it is understood, then it is such that one Dadashri: Now such a time will
will receive whatever he asks for. So, on come in a little while in which you will
the contrary, people would come from only get two hours. If you simply get to
America to do this darshan. Whereas you do ‘our’ darshan, then you will have to
are saying, “When I get time, then I will consider that a great fortune.
see, then I will come.” What else? As a
This Akram Vignan is so beneficial,
matter of fact, ‘children’ who do not have how can even one minute be wasted?
the understanding would let go of this. Never will there be such a circumstance
Whoever understands the value, he in any other lifetime. Therefore, get your
would not let go after meeting ‘us’. work done in this lifetime.
One Should Never Miss Out on Questioner: Dada, you have said
Invaluable Darshan for us to get our work done, how is it
to be done?
Did you like all of this?
Dadashri: As long as ‘we’ are
Questioner: What’s there to like or around, you should not waste time
dislike? We happened to get Your darshan, elsewhere. When ‘we’ go to Vadodara,
that which is difficult to obtain. whoever has favorable circumstances and
Dadashri: Salvation has happened. can afford it, should come there. Spend
as much time with me as you can. Just
Questioner: I believe that through come and sit in my satsang; there is no
your darshan my Soul has attained sal- need to do anything else at all!
vation.
Only Meeting the Living Gnani
Dadashri: It certainly happens Accomplishes One’s Work
through this darshan. However, one should
The very importance of the manifest
know how to do this darshan. ‘We’ too
Gnani is that simply upon seeing Him,
do darshan of this God [within]. Do you
the energies manifest [within you]. The
know why ‘we’ do this? Why do ‘we’ bow
energies arise simply by doing His
down to this God within? [It is because]
darshan. Simply upon seeing the manifest
The Lord of the fourteen worlds has
Self, one becomes that form.
manifested there. The One who is in the
state of endless salvation! ‘He’ who is the Those who have done live darshan
destroyer of the entire Kaliyug (current era of ‘us’, they will continue to receive the
of the time cycle, which is characterized ‘light’ even when ‘we’ are no longer
by lack of unity in thought, speech, and present. People’s work will get done
action). ‘He’ makes one experience Satyug as long as ‘we’ are present; thereafter,
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nothing will be effective. The importance otherwise? Worldly interaction pushes you
is of the manifest state (pragat). into forgetting the Agna.
Know the Atma Gnani as the absolute Otherwise, these five Agna are such
Self in a body-form. Gnanis in the past have that they give all the solutions at any
said that the Gnani Purush has become the place, at any time. Therefore, if the Agna
absolute Self in body-form, so get your are present, then there will be a solution.
work done there. The Self has manifested So they are Your ‘safe-side’, complete
within the Gnani Purush Himself, and that ‘safe-side’!
[Self] is worth knowing. If you want to
know the Self, then go to the Gnani Purush. This has become very easy, provided
No other ‘Self’ contained in scriptures and one understands the facts. It becomes
books will do. A candle illustrated in a extremely easy after receiving this Gnan.
book can indeed be seen, [you will get to Now you do not need to read scriptures. It
learn] that this is what a candle looks like, is enough if You can abide by these five
but it does not give off illumination. You Agna. Now that You have attained this
will not get anything out of that. To know Purusharth [of being in the five Agna], it is
the Self, one must meet the living Gnani possible for You to grasp it [the real form
Purush, only then will work get done. as the Self]. I am not denying that there are
Seek Out the Eternal Dada forces which create obstructions. Results
[effects] from the past still exist; they may
Questioner: A lot of peace prevails keep pushing you, but You should remain
in your presence, but when I go out, many aware. Keep doing pratikraman, then the
hindrances remain. awakened awareness (jagruti) will remain.
Dadashri: The five Agna are My However much the awakened awareness,
presence indeed. These Agna give just as that much benefit is gained, and complete
much result as ‘our’ presence. So for the awakened awareness is called absolute
one who wants to remain in these Agnas, Knowledge (keval Gnan).
nothing affects him. For the one who wants
to complicate things in worldly life, he If one follows the five Agna, then
has problems. that is ‘our’ live presence! They signify
‘our’ live presence. So then what is it to
Questioner: Dada, but I still become you if this Dada goes to America? ‘He’
very entangled in worldly interaction has gone upon giving You the five Agna,
(vyavahaar). so then what is it to You? He Himself is
Dadashri: The karma will indeed that [the Agna], isn’t He?
unfold, but if You remain in the Agna Questioner: Is Dada giving us the
at that time, then all entanglements will answer to what we will do when this
disappear. The Agna are a very elevated physical Dada departs?
thing. Are You able to remain in the Agna
to an extent? Dadashri: Yes, you should seek out
the eternal Dada. This Dada is seventy-six
Questioner: I am able to Dada, I am
years old, and is there any telling when
able to remain in them to a small extent.
he will depart this body? Instead, if You
Dadashri: What do you remain in seek out the eternal Dada, will there be a
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problem any longer? Then even if he lives ‘no’ to scriptures, religion, and penance.
a hundred years, You have no problem. Just remain in the Agna He gives You.
However, You should seek out the eternal The Agna itself will take you to moksha.
Dada within. Similarly, ‘we’ tell you not to read the
scriptures presently. Just follow the Agna,
Questioner: Dada, how absolutely
Your work will get done!
independent (niralamb) You make all who
come to You! Getting Your work done means that
if You can remain in ‘our’ Agna properly,
Dadashri: What else can ‘we’ do?
then it is fine if you come once every two
You should have the courage, shouldn’t
to four months and do ‘our’ darshan. And
you! You should remain steady, shouldn’t
if you cannot remain in them, then come
you? So You should sit on the ‘seat’ [of
here often, every day, and do darshan.
the Self]. Following the Agna means You
have found Your ‘seat’; that is all. Do Your Own Darshan Through the
Gnani
How Is One to Get His Work Done?
Now, to whatever extent you follow
Questioner: Dada, when we come to the five Agnas, all of that will be credited.
You, many times You tell us, “Get Your Secondly, go and do darshan of the Gnani
work done, get Your work done.” So how Purush, whenever and wherever you can,
are we supposed to get our work done? even if you have to spend five hundred
Dadashri: What do I mean when or a thousand. If he has come nearby,
I tell You to get Your work done? ‘We’ then spend to the extent that is possible
are not telling You to remain in the Agna for you, but do His darshan. ‘We’ would
completely. I would not keep harping on spontaneously give you blessings. As a
like that every day. But by ‘get your work matter of fact, the loss of infinite lifetimes
done’ You should understand that Dada is to be repaid in one lifetime. The loss
is telling You to increasingly remain in of how many lifetimes?
the Agna; He is telling You to remain
Questioner: Infinite.
aware in the Agna. So remain aware in
the Agna; that is what I am conveying to Dadashri: Infinite lifetimes that
You. Then Your work is done. What does have passed, the loss of that is to be repaid
a professor say about an examination? in this one lifetime. Therefore, do not miss
[The professor says,] “Give such an out on doing darshan of the Gnani Purush.
examination that I don’t have to inflate Even if you have to stay up at night, you
your marks; give such an exam that no should do this darshan. So the first thing is
one needs to implore [for higher marks].” however much you follow the Agnas, that
So the student should understand that he much will be credited. The second thing
needs to study more. Everything should is if you do darshan, then a tremendous
be systematic. That is what I mean when amount will be credited.
I say, “Get Your work done”!
This darshan is considered a wonder
If You remain in the Agna, then it of the world. This is actually the eleventh
is such that it will get Your work done. wonder.
When the Tirthankars are present, they say ~ Jai Sat Chit Anand
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Satsang & Gnan Vidhi Programs in the Presence of Pujya Deepakbhai


Adalaj Trimandir
2 December (Sun) Special program on Pujya Niruma's Birthday celebration
6-30 to 8-15 am - Procession, Vidhi & 8-30 to 10-30 pm - Bhakti
23 to 30 December - Spiritual Retreat (Parayan) on Aptavani-13 (U) & Aptavani 14 Part 1
10 am to 12-30 pm & 4-30 to 7-30 pm - Satsangs - Samayik
2 January (Sun) Special program on Pujya Dadashri's Punyatithi
4-30 to 6-30 pm - Kirtan Bhakti, 8-30 to 10 pm - Mahatma's Experiences with Dadashri
Chennai
8 December (Sat), 6-30 to 9-30 pm Satsang & 9 December (Sun), 4-30 to 8 pm  - Gnan Vidhi
Venue : Anna Auditorium, Association of Surgeons of India, Opp. T.V. Tower, Chepauk, Chennai.
10 December (Mon), 6-30 to 9-30 pm -  Aptaputra Satsang Ph. : 6369138166
Venue : Uma Suraj Palace, Angalamman Koil Street, Choolai, Chennai. Ph. : 7904394945
Mumbai
9 February (Sat), 6 to 9 pm Satsang & 10 February (Sun), 5-30 to 9 pm  - Gnan Vidhi
Venue : Nirmal Lifestyle Mall, LBS Marg, Mulund (W). Ph. : 9323528901
Rajkot
16 - 17 February  - Gnan Vidhi (Venue and Time TBA) Ph. : 9879137971
Jamnagar
22 February (Fri), 6 to 9 pm Satsang & 23 February (Sat), 5-30 to 9 pm  - Gnan Vidhi
Venue : Opp. Vrajbhumi-1, Nr TGES school, Manek Nagar, Rajkot Road, Ph : 9924343687
Jamnagar Trimandir Pranpratishtha Celebration
Dt. 24 February  2019 (Sunday)
Pranpratishtha : 9-30 am to 1 pm, Pujan-Darshan-Aarti : 4-30 pm to 7-30 pm.
Venue : Opp. Vrajbhumi-1, Nr. TGES school, Manek Nagar, Rajkot Road. Ph : 9924343687
Note : Due to only one day event, no accommodation facility will be available during this function.
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