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3 RUSSELL S. FARIA, )
4 Appellant, )
6 STATE OF MISSOURI, )
7 Respondent. )
11 STATE OF MISSOURI, )
12 Plaintiff, )
14 RUSSELL S. FARIA, )
15 Defendant. )
16
17 TRANSCRIPT ON APPEAL
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18 7-2-13, 7-10-13, 10-28-13
11-18-13, 11-19-13, 11-20-13, 11-21-13
19 VOLUME 5
20
21 APPEARANCES
25
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2 evening?
3 A. I think so.
9 no idea.
12 A. Correct.
15 A. Yeah.
17 night, you don't recall anybody else's cell phone going off?
19 going off.
20 Q. Just Russ's?
21 A. Yes.
24 A. That's correct.
4 Imperial March?
5 A. Yes.
8 phone but I assume so. He can choose his own ringtone, the
21 to touch it off.
1 A. No.
3 little bit?
4 A. That's correct.
7 Marshall did.
9 A. Yes.
11 Master?
14 A. Correct.
23 them know, but you are still welcome to come over, we could
24 watch a movie?
1 few times in the past where I'll let them know no game
3 movie.
5 movie in?
9 showed up first?
10 A. Yes.
12 A. Correct.
14 movie?
15 A. Yes.
18 everybody sat?
24 A. Yes.
1 A. Correct.
3 A. Correct.
6 people, right?
4 A. Sure.
6 here.
7 A. Okay.
9 that night?
15 sitting, you say you can see the defendant sitting in the
16 recliner?
18 from me.
21 leather chair.
24 A. Correct.
1 bottle of tea?
3 no. It's possible he could have, but I don't really pay that
7 the -- let me get your -- (as read) "I believe, again, it's
11 deposition.
14 A. Yeah.
18 or what they maybe had brought, but it's not trivial that
5 no talking?
11 motorcycle?
13 they had decided to sell his old bike and, I believe, buy his
23 games?
24 A. Okay.
6 my house.
8 A. Correct.
10 A. Correct.
17 game, correct?
18 A. Correct.
20 -- because you are the referee, you are the Role Master,
21 right?
22 A. Referee, yeah.
1 settings to them and then they are free to act how they want,
4 Q. Thanks.
7 REDIRECT-EXAMINATION
8 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
11 A. Absolutely not.
3 Q. All right.
8 released?
11 released.
15 MARSHALL BACH,
17 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
18 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
22 DIRECT EXAMINATION
23 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
25 A. Marshall Bach.
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2 A. I am 29.
4 A. Yeah.
8 A. Century Motors.
12 A. Yes.
14 A. Yes.
17 three years.
19 December of 2011, you think you had known him for a couple
20 years then?
23 A. Through friends.
5 Q. Mike?
6 A. Corbin's. Sorry.
8 met Russell?
13 playing game.
15 A. Role Master.
17 this game?
20 Q. How did you hear about it? Who told you about
21 it?
24 A. Yes.
1 A. Yes.
13 it different now?
14 A. Yeah. Yeah.
17 a weapons master.
22 character was?
3 do you know?
11 A. A couple times.
12 Q. Where?
13 A. Up at Brandon's.
14 Q. At Brandon's?
15 A. Yeah. Sweeney's.
18 A. No.
25 A. Yeah.
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2 A. Yes.
9 A. Yes.
15 weren't there?
19 playing?
20 A. Yes.
22 A. Role Master.
3 A. No.
5 Corbin's house?
6 A. Yes.
8 A. Yes.
17 A. Yes.
19 A. Yes.
21 A. Yes.
24 A. Rich May.
25 Q. And?
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2 Q. Okay.
9 Q. Why is that?
11 play.
13 night?
17 put it this way. If he was there before you, what time did
18 you arrive?
21 A. Yes.
4 A. Yes, we did.
6 A. Everybody.
8 A. A little.
10 A. Out of a pipe.
13 Q. Why not?
17 left?
20 left?
9 you?
16 A. Yes.
18 of that?
19 A. Yes.
21 A. No.
24 Q. And did they ask you about where you were the
1 A. Yes.
3 A. Yes.
5 to here today?
6 A. Yes.
12 A. Three times.
15 A. No.
18 A. No.
21 A. Together.
25 out getting food and when I came home they were already
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5 police stations.
7 Saturday?
8 A. I'm sorry?
10 you did and what your actions were off that previous Tuesday?
14 A. No.
16 A. No.
20 A. No.
22 night?
25 A. Yeah.
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2 A. No.
8 food.
12 A. No.
21 A. Yeah.
2 A. Right.
7 CROSS-EXAMINATION
8 BY MR. HICKS:
10 A. Good morning.
13 deal, but back when you guys were playing the game together,
16 character.
17 Q. He was a sorcerer?
21 was "Devarius"?
23 Q. Okay.
2 A. Right.
5 A. Yes.
8 A. Yeah.
10 A. Yeah.
13 strangers.
17 where you guys were spending your time, enjoying a little bit
18 of marijuana?
19 A. Yeah.
22 A. Yeah.
6 cancer?
9 A. I didn't know.
15 correct?
16 A. Correct.
20 A. I guess so.
23 defendant?
2 A. Yes.
6 A. Yeah.
8 A. Yeah.
9 Q. Okay.
18 right?
20 stuff.
22 you came back here, was your memory back then, was it not,
24 showed up?
1 Q. I understand.
5 to make is that back in the summer you said this. Now you're
8 correct?
9 A. Yeah.
13 A. Yes.
15 Corbin, correct?
16 A. Yes.
18 A. Yes.
20 A. Yes.
23 correct?
25 came --
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2 A. -- as a group.
4 A. Yeah.
10 A. Yeah.
13 nights.
16 A. Yeah.
18 coffee?
2 where?
4 chair. I was in the kitchen chair. I was the only one that
10 A. Yeah.
13 A. Yeah.
15 a few months ago when you came in here and gave this
16 deposition, correct?
17 A. Yeah.
19 A. Yeah.
22 A. I guess I can.
24 A. No.
1 careful about -- and I'm not talking about leaving the house.
4 correct?
5 A. Correct.
7 kitchen or anything?
12 A. No.
15 A. Vaguely, yeah.
17 A. Yeah.
19 it's your testimony that you basically left, you and Brandon,
21 roommate, correct?
22 A. Yes.
24 A. Yes.
1 A. Yeah.
3 game?
4 A. Right.
7 A. Yes.
10 defendant out. You guys kind of all left at the same time?
11 A. Correct.
12 Q. Is that correct?
13 A. Yes.
15 pull away?
16 A. Right.
17 Q. Is that correct?
18 A. Yeah.
20 correct?
21 A. Yes.
2 A. Right.
5 A. Correct.
8 A. Yes.
11 A. Yeah.
13 A. Yes.
15 your house -- let me ask you this. How close, you said it
17 house?
18 A. Right.
21 A. Correct.
1 A. Correct.
3 from it, you said from where you live it takes maybe ten to
6 It just depends on how the lights are and the traffic and
7 people.
11 ask you this. Did you see him return with food?
14 A. Yeah.
16 A. Yes.
18 A. Yeah.
21 A. Pretty much.
23 to bed?
4 A. I was sleeping.
6 A. Sleeping.
8 A. Yes.
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Where at?
13 A. Inside.
14 Q. Inside where?
17 all?
25 A. Right.
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2 correct?
3 A. Yeah.
5 A. Right.
7 A. Yeah.
8 Q. Right?
9 A. Okay. Yeah.
12 will you go --
16 A. Correct.
18 A. No.
19 Q. Okay.
24 released?
4 would you please come forward and raise your right hand to be
8 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
9 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
14 DIRECT EXAMINATION
15 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
2 A. Yes, sir.
7 A. Yes.
9 today?
10 A. Yes, sir.
16 since?
17 A. No, sir.
20 New Year's.
22 seeing Russell about? Why did you see Russell that night?
1 Q. All right.
3 up on Tuesdays.
9 A. Yes, sir.
21 night?
22 A. Yes, sir.
24 A. No, sir.
25 Q. Why not?
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5 A. Correct.
11 Q. Who is your --
14 A. Richard May.
17 ten-plus years.
19 A. I'm twenty-eight.
22 A. Yes, sir.
23 Q. Longer?
8 May?
9 A. Correct.
11 he wasn't there?
12 A. Correct.
14 your uncle brought you to the game, how long before December
15 of 2011?
20 A. Yes.
22 a year?
23 A. Correct.
6 that.
10 A. No, sir.
12 game?
16 off because they were trying to raid the town and steal
21 A. Mike.
23 mission?
24 A. No, sir.
2 A. Correct.
4 played on Tuesdays?
7 A. Yes.
9 A. Yes, sir.
14 not.
17 A. Correct.
19 A. Yes.
23 watch a movie.
6 A. Brandon?
8 A. Correct.
13 wearing.
19 A. Yes, sir.
21 A. Yes, sir.
23 night?
6 Barbarian".
14 A. 9:00, 9:03.
15 Q. I'm sorry?
20 A. No, sir.
22 A. Positive.
24 A. Yes, sir.
1 A. A hundred percent.
3 after you?
9 were saying our goodbyes. Russell went out the front door.
10 Me, Marshall and Mike and Andge were saying our goodbyes and
18 they wanted to come down and watch it. That's about it. If
22 A. Yeah.
1 Q. And that Jack in the Box was how far away from
5 between?
6 A. One.
8 your house?
15 around there?
16 A. Yes.
19 A. Yes.
21 A. Yes, sir.
23 afterwards?
24 A. Yes, sir.
9 to that.
11 A. Yes, sir.
13 A. Yes, sir.
14 Q. Where is it?
15 A. It's in my wallet.
20 identification.)
22 over the summer, Mr. Hicks asked you about this receipt and
24 A. Yes.
6 receipt?
12 A. Drive-thru.
14 A. Yes, sir.
16 A. Yes, sir.
18 A. I ate it.
23 A. Yes, it does.
6 A. Yes.
8 A. Yes.
10 A. Yes.
16 on the door.
19 Q. So Thursday night?
20 A. Yes.
23 A. Marshall?
24 Q. I'm sorry.
9 A. No.
11 was separate?
12 A. Correct.
15 A. Yes.
18 presence?
19 A. Yes.
21 A. Yes.
4 CROSS-EXAMINATION
5 BY MR. HICKS:
7 that Mike Corbin called the next morning to give you guys a
10 Detectives that were going to come over and talk to us, yes.
12 the phone?
13 A. It was Marshall.
21 A. No.
23 are coming?
24 A. Correct.
2 this as, your testimony about "the night"? Did you use the
6 evening, that's the night that you are saying you were with
8 A. Correct.
10 defendant, right?
14 together?
15 A. Correct.
17 A. Correct.
19 A. Uh-huh.
22 A. Correct.
24 A. He's my uncle.
1 A. I'm 28.
4 A. I have no clue.
6 A. Correct.
8 A. Correct.
11 A. Correct.
15 A. Correct.
17 I'm not going to go into that. I'm going to ask you about a
19 A. Okay.
21 played?
22 A. Talisman?
23 Q. Talisman.
6 game?
7 A. In a sense, yeah.
10 playing game.
12 creative there?
13 A. Correct.
15 A. Correct.
16 Q. -- is that fair?
17 A. Yes.
20 correct?
21 A. Correct.
24 A. Correct.
2 A. Correct.
5 A. Correct.
7 A. Correct.
11 A. Correct.
13 him a text saying, hey, are you going to show up, Talisman,
15 A. Correct.
17 A. No.
19 A. Correct.
21 A. Correct.
25 Q. Yes.
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10 movie?
11 A. Yeah.
14 A. Right here.
18 A. Uh-huh.
20 A. Correct.
22 night after you got your Jack in the Box, all right, that you
24 correct?
25 A. Yes, sir.
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2 A. Uh-huh.
4 back? Okay.
7 A. Uh-huh.
14 A. Uh-huh.
16 A. Uh-huh.
18 A. Yes, sir.
24 A. Correct.
1 want it?
4 A. Uh-huh.
6 A. Yes, sir.
8 A. Exactly.
10 A. Uh-huh.
12 A. Correct.
14 a deposition, correct?
15 A. Correct.
17 talked, correct?
18 A. No.
20 A. Yes.
22 A. Yes.
24 A. No.
2 receipt?
3 A. Correct.
5 A. I have no clue.
9 25. In fact, read to yourself all the way to the next page
11 Okay?
12 A. Okay.
14 answer there?
15 A. No.
17 receipt?
18 A. No.
20 (as read), "All right. You guys just went back to your
21 place?"
23 A. Uh-huh.
25 Corbin's?
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1 A. Uh-huh.
4 A. Correct.
6 A. Correct.
9 A. Huh-uh.
11 a receipt or anything?"
12 A. Correct.
21 A. Yes, sir.
24 A. Correct.
1 A. No.
4 A. No.
6 A. Correct.
8 correct?
9 A. Correct.
11 A. Yes, sir.
12 Q. Tell me.
19 out to you?
1 A. Correct.
3 A. No, sir.
8 A. Yes.
10 A. Correct.
11 Q. He looked at it?
12 A. Correct.
14 A. Correct.
20 A. Yes, sir.
23 cigarettes?
8 in the house.
10 his house.
16 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
17 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
22 A. Correct.
24 N, because why?
3 of 2011, correct?
4 A. Correct.
6 there?
10 the same room with those other people you talked about, from
12 2011?
13 A. Yes, sir.
17 RECROSS-EXAMINATION
18 BY MR. HICKS:
22 A. Yes, sir.
24 driving?
25 A. Yes, sir.
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2 A. Yes, sir.
5 A. Multiples of three.
7 remember 9:03?
8 A. Yes, sir.
10 A. Correct.
16 your deposition?
17 A. Yes, sir.
19 then?
22 your deposition?
24 Q. A brown?
2 Dark?
6 A. No.
8 A. Right.
11 A. Correct.
15 time ago, like I said, I've known Russell for a long time, he
23 A. Right.
25 A. Correct.
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5 A. A SUV.
12 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
15 A. No.
17 A. I stopped at my house.
18 Q. Why?
22 A. Correct.
25 A. Correct.
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7 released.
10 Hulion.
15 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
16 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
21 DIRECT EXAMINATION
22 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
24 record?
6 A. Forty.
8 A. In O'Fallon, Missouri.
10 A. Michael Corbin.
12 A. Oh, 20 years.
14 A. Yes.
18 A. Sixteen years.
19 Q. Same company?
20 A. Yes.
22 A. Yes, I do.
24 A. Yes, I do.
25 Q. What is he wearing?
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3 A. Fifteen years.
5 A. Very little.
8 A. No.
10 A. No.
12 A. Yes.
15 games.
18 Richard.
20 A. May.
23 A. Yes.
2 A. Played games.
9 A. Yes.
13 Russell's character?
16 recall?
19 A. Yes.
21 years?
22 A. Yes, I was.
24 Russell?
4 Q. Let's say --
5 A Before Russell.
7 after Russell?
10 A. No.
14 A. Yes.
16 together?
17 A. Yes.
21 night?
4 Tuesday nights?
5 A. Yes.
9 recall what time, did anybody deviate from the normal time?
12 A. Yes.
18 A. A T-shirt, I believe.
21 A. He showed up first.
24 movie.
9 A. "The Road".
11 A. Yes.
13 A. No.
14 Q. Why not?
18 night?
19 A. No, I didn't.
21 A. No.
23 A. Yes, a little.
25 out of?
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1 A. A pipe.
3 A. I did.
4 Q. Did Russell?
5 A. I believe so.
8 watching --
10 A. -- so I don't know.
12 night?
15 forth.
18 Q. No other specifics?
21 night?
22 A. About 9 o'clock.
24 of 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock?
25 A. Oh, no.
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5 A. No doubt whatsoever.
10 next morning?
12 Q. By whom?
13 A. Detectives, I believe.
16 A. Yes.
20 Q. Did you talk about the game and why you played
25 A. Yes.
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2 A. Yes.
4 A. Yes.
6 later?
7 A. Yes, on Saturday.
14 A. Chesterfield.
15 Q. Police station?
19 rooms.
21 Saturday morning?
22 A. Yes.
25 A. Yes.
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4 9:00 p.m. on that Tuesday, the 27th, that Russell was in the
6 A. Yes.
9 CROSS-EXAMINATION
10 BY MR. HICKS:
12 A. Hulion.
15 A. Yes.
18 A. Yes.
20 A. Uh-huh.
23 A. Yes.
25 the games together, Mike has been playing these role playing
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5 A. Twenty years.
12 Fantasy.
14 A. Yes.
24 A. No.
2 Q. Coffee?
3 A. Probably coffee.
6 night, correct?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. One time?
11 A. Yes.
13 A. Yes.
15 was?
16 A. I do not.
18 conversations and you said there was maybe some talk about
20 A. Yes. Yes.
25 Christmas.
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1 Q. I understand.
4 other conversations?
6 movie.
10 Q. You had?
11 A. Yes.
13 A. Yes.
15 A. We could have.
17 wasn't there?
19 night.
21 A. No.
23 A. No.
25 people?
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2 either.
6 Yes.
9 A. Uh-huh.
11 friends?
14 Thank you.
16 Honor.
18 released?
21 released.
3 consider your verdict, you must not discuss this case among
21 late night but that would mean you may not have to come back
2 (Recess.)
12 whether I can and cannot get -- what I can and cannot get
14 LINDA HARTMANN,
16 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
17 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
19 DIRECT EXAMINATION
20 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
22 name?
23 A. Linda Hartmann.
25 A. Yes.
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4 family, and I found out she had breast cancer and that's when
5 I got in touch with her because I had just got over breast
6 cancer, too.
9 A. Yes.
11 A. Yes.
13 A. Yes.
15 A. Yes.
18 A. Yes, I did.
20 A. Rhonda. My husband.
22 A. I'm sorry?
1 cruise?
2 A. Yes.
4 cruise?
5 A. Yes.
15 had to meet Pam about 9:30 in the morning she said; and I
17 when we had time off work and we could all stay extra because
20 Q. Okay.
22 Pam.
1 to you there was anything good -- what did she tell you about
5 had not spoken about, you know, her leaving; and I got very
7 yes, and she said, I'm okay with passing on because when I
14 A. Yes.
16 that conversation?
18 Branson.
19 Q. Okay.
25 A. Yes. Yes.
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2 Honor.
4 CROSS-EXAMINATION
5 BY MR. HICKS:
8 A. Who?
10 Faria?
16 the family.
20 point?
21 A. Yes.
7 the jurors?
20 DEAN FRYE,
22 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
23 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
2 DIRECT EXAMINATION
3 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
5 A. Dean Frye.
11 A. Yes.
18 A. Yes, I was.
22 A. Yes, I did.
24 you do?
10 address.
15 this information?
16 A. Yes.
18 A. I believe so.
21 A. Yes.
24 A. Video.
1 A. A video.
3 A. A receipt.
4 Q. And QuikTrip?
5 A. A video.
13 A. Certainly.
23 these something?
7 Q. Okay.
11 see Mr. Faria or if you do, in fact, see Mr. Faria in one of
12 the frames?
15 it.
17 at the bottom?
21 A. Yes, I did.
5 A. Yes, I do.
7 A. Certainly.
9 divide this into six videos? This is how Conoco had it when
11 A. Yes, sir.
12 Q. Okay.
17 correct?
18 A. Yes.
21 A. Yes.
23 store?
24 A. That's my recollection.
1 else?
2 A. That's my recollection.
4 video?
9 A. Yes, sir.
12 A. Yes.
14 A. Yes, sir.
18 Exhibit O.
4 was four minutes off from Greenwich Mean Time with our
9 A. Yes, I did.
11 now?
12 A. Yes.
16 the middle part of the video, that's where you'll see him.
21 Q. Okay.
4 A. Yes.
7 A. I believe it was.
9 that?
10 A. No, sir.
13 A. Yes.
15 retrieve a receipt?
16 A. Yes, I did.
18 it?
21 identification.)
23 A. Yes, it is.
1 particular evening?
2 A. Yes, it does.
4 are off. Can you read it? Would you prefer the lights on?
13 receipt stamped?
16 A. Yes, sir.
24 It also has his name, first and last name at the bottom and
25 his signature.
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2 A. Dog food.
3 Q. All right.
5 Defendant's Exhibit P.
11 A. Yes, sir.
17 at that address?
18 A. Yes, sir.
21 that you seized, and if you can stop us if and when you see
22 Mr. Faria?
4 A. Yes, sir.
6 where he went?
7 A. Yes, sir.
12 A. Yes.
15 A. Yes.
18 CROSS-EXAMINATION
19 BY MR. HICKS:
23 A. Yes.
3 A. Okay.
8 A. Yes.
14 Q. Okay.
21 came up yet.
23 A. Yes.
2 minutes?
3 A. Yes.
7 they were at the house that night also with Russell Faria and
11 A. Yes.
13 about. When you walked into the residence, did they invite
14 you in to talk?
24 home?
25 A. Yes.
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2 A. Yes.
5 A. Yes.
8 A. Yes, sir.
11 A. I don't.
20 A. Yes.
23 you he's dropped off by Brandon Sweeney and that Brandon went
25 that?
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2 in the Box.
9 was?
10 A. Yes.
13 A. He did not.
16 A. No, I didn't.
21 A. Certainly.
23 happened?
24 A. No, sir.
25 Q. All right.
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3 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
4 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
6 consistent that they were with Russell Faria and they went
7 into detail, and you even noted in your report that there was
9 correct?
10 A. That is correct.
12 A. Yes.
14 A. Yeah.
16 A. Yes, sir.
18 RECROSS-EXAMINATION
19 BY MR. HICKS:
22 ten, 15 minutes?
23 A. Yes, sir.
24 Q. Rather brief?
25 A. Yes.
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2 home you went to that you just talked to, just as brief?
7 again, correct?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. In more detail?
15 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
17 for a fact --
18 A. Detective Frye.
20 I'm sorry, Officer Frye. I'm getting old. Officer Frye, I'm
21 sorry. You were aware that Russell Faria was at the police
24 A. Yes.
1 FURTHER RECROSS-EXAMINATION
2 BY MR. HICKS:
6 Marshall?
7 A. Yes.
15 A. Correct.
18 A. Yes, it did.
21 A. Yes.
25 A. Correct.
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3 A. Correct.
6 A. Right.
9 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
11 short?
12 A. Yes, it was.
15 A. Yes, sir.
18 FURTHER RECROSS-EXAMINATION
19 BY MR. HICKS:
25 A. It did not.
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11 stand.
14 the Clerk.
15 KURT PONZAR,
17 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
18 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
21 identification.)
22 DIRECT EXAMINATION
23 BY MR. SWANSON:
25 to the jury?
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5 investigator?
12 A. Since 1976.
13 Q. So that's 37 years?
14 A. Thirty-six or so.
16 A. Yes.
19 A. Yes.
21 to time?
2 A. That's correct.
5 Q. Three?
6 A. Three times.
7 Q. At least?
10 without.
12 A. Yes.
14 were you?
18 Q. And drove?
20 up to Troy.
25 how long it would take to order food and then get back to
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1 Troy?
2 A. Yes.
4 A. Yes.
6 correct?
7 A. That's correct.
9 admitted.
15 into evidence.
17 to the full period of it, how long does that drive take?
21 A. That's right.
1 that?
2 A. Yes.
6 A. Thirty minutes.
10 questions.
16 Honor.
19 the Clerk.
20 GREG CHATTEN,
22 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
23 help you God, under pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws of
1 DIRECT EXAMINATION
2 BY MR. SWANSON:
4 the jury?
15 qualifies you?
2 you work?
8 United States.
11 firm.
14 years.
24 technology?
25 A. Yes.
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5 cellular side.
10 A. Correct.
12 A. Yes.
15 Registration.
17 A. I do.
19 A. It does.
20 Q. How much?
23 A. Yes.
1 A. I have.
2 Q. What kind?
10 case?
11 A. Correct.
13 A. I am.
20 A. I have.
22 examine?
17 data like going out on the Internet or data from the Internet
18 being sent to you, and those records not only contain that
1 that?
4 we've got three pieces of pie on these cell towers and a cell
17 A. Correct.
20 A. Yes.
23 A. Yes.
25 A. I was.
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2 Honor?
6 A. It was.
8 Defendant's Exhibit R.
18 which sector each tower was split into that the government
2 had available.
9 that was the data that the defense received from the
10 government?
11 A. Correct.
13 A. Correct.
16 A. Correct.
18 A. Correct.
20 A. It was.
6 three sectors.
10 and I, based on that, I've got dates and times that data went
11 back and forth between the tower and the phones, regardless
13 phone, based on that data and the time, I was able to place
16 maps?
22 admitted as Exhibit R.
3 mean the cell phone records. But we've got towers on here.
5 map?
10 T-Mobile?
11 A. Correct.
18 12/27/2011?
19 A. Yes.
22 pie was?
1 from T-Mobile.
4 A. That's my understanding.
12 T-Mobile.
24 affidavit or whatever.
5 from T-Mobile.
9 inaccuracies here.
20 these are what our experts relied upon to get the tower
25 Courtroom.
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3 your possession that you provided and you have not ever
16 hearsay.
18 I'm not talking about that. That's why I waited for him to
22 alone.
1 tower here and there's a tower here, there's a tower here and
6 whatever and say these are the T-Mobile records that I relied
7 upon.
13 T-Mobile.
22 T-Mobile himself.
1 somebody else. And it hasn't been given over to us, but more
5 what I relied upon. This has all the numbers in it. This is
15 he said.
18 and revisit.
23 at that point.
25 before going any further, so maybe have him voir dire the
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1 witness on that.
3 I'll be happy.
17 BY MR. HICKS:
20 A. Certainly.
22 provided you via the defense counsel, you know, the cell
24 A. Correct.
2 from T-Mobile?
3 A. Correct.
5 T-Mobile, let's say that you weren't able to obtain that from
6 them, okay, and you only had the information that you said
7 the government provided you, okay? Would you have been able
9 A. In part, yes.
11 generate?
14 able to generate?
18 only difference.
21 you?
2 in order to put this into the pie, you got from T-Mobile; is
3 that correct?
5 them.
7 understand.
9 objection.
13 identification.)
19 A. It is.
21 A. Correct.
23 A. Correct.
1 A. Yes.
3 signify?
8 Q. Yes.
18 correct?
19 A. Correct.
21 A. Correct.
23 A. Right here.
25 located in Troy?
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1 A. Correct.
2 Q. And that is --
3 A. Right here.
5 A. Yes.
7 A. Yes.
10 A. Yes.
12 Arby's?
13 A. Yes.
16 A. Yes.
1 line.
3 Faria's home?
4 A. Correct.
8 not have exceeded this yellow line over here. It could not
11 A. Correct.
13 phone was?
15 you notice there are two towers that are very close because
17 put the towers much closer and the range is much smaller so
25 could not have been over here, northeast from this tower. So
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18 you are located, and it's going to pick the one with the
22 A. Yes.
24 A. It could, yes.
2 A. Correct.
4 connect?
5 A. Correct.
8 have been here. It could not have been here. It came off of
14 line is that goes into the next sector because the T-Mobile
15 data that I received from the defense that was provided from
2 A. Correct.
12 comes in or out.
15 A. That is correct.
2 to suggest that she's the one who committed this murder, and
6 because --
8 to it. All of the data that he used to present that was from
14 came in from Mrs. Hupp, and I think the Court went into it
16 police, she testified that she told the police that she
17 called Betsy Faria when she got home and then she said, well,
22 that's really all this is, is showing where her phone was at
3 the right to follow up and the jury can determine what "home
4 free" is.
6 after she was Crossed, she was like, that's not what I meant.
10 Number one, she said, when I got to the Interstate I was home
15 was at a point where she knew from that she could navigate
18 jury to determine.
4 CROSS-EXAMINATION
5 BY MR. HICKS:
7 that you had been hired by the defendant here to testify here
8 today, correct?
9 A. Correct.
11 A. Correct.
13 fee?
14 A. Both.
23 A. I don't know.
2 to bring them.
5 A. No.
6 Q. Five hours?
9 A. Correct.
11 this case?
19 track. Well, you have kept track but don't have that
24 mean?
5 A. Yes.
8 A. Correct.
14 Officer?
22 A. Correct.
24 A. Correct.
7 hour and a half ago when this lady over here tried to speak
11 A. No, sir.
13 right?
14 A. She did.
19 that?
21 Q. Okay.
3 that I did not feel that she was entitled to know until we
15 A. Not at all.
17 government".
20 all encompassing.
24 difference?
3 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
4 BY MR. SWANSON:
7 A. Correct.
11 is the data.
15 A. That is my understanding.
18 A. No.
21 RECROSS-EXAMINATION
22 BY MR. HICKS:
24 the State?
9 released?
12 released.
18 of Proof.
3 Courtroom?
5 waits outside.
8 State.
13 PATRICK HARNEY,
15 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
16 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
19 ready.
20 DIRECT EXAMINATION
21 BY MS. ASKEY:
23 the record.
24 A. Patrick Harney.
3 A. I'm a Detective.
8 A. Yes, ma'am.
10 today?
11 A. Yes, I did.
13 Conoco in Troy, the QuikTrip in Lake St. Louis and the U-Gas
14 on Wentzville Parkway?
15 A. Yes, ma'am.
2 A. As I understand, yes.
8 Q. Sixty cents?
9 A. Yes, ma'am.
11 Wentzville?
17 A. Yes, ma'am.
19 then, Detective?
20 A. No, I do not.
1 CROSS-EXAMINATION
2 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
13 Q. What's that?
23 thirsty.
5 A. No, sir.
13 A. Yes, I did.
18 A. No, I don't.
6 defendant?
13 break.
17 matters.
20 consider your verdict, you must not discuss this case among
16 DIRECT EXAMINATION
17 BY MR. SWANSON:
21 A. Correct.
2 Offer of Proof.
5 if I did, but just to remind you that you are still under
6 oath.
11 A. Yes.
15 A. Yes.
17 A. (636) 448-5241.
19 correct?
20 A. Yes.
23 A. Yes.
25 A. Correct.
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2 correct?
3 A. Correct.
4 Q. How is it different?
9 A. Yes.
12 A. Yes.
15 A. Yes.
18 A. Correct.
22 is not here.
25 A. Yes, 7:04.
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2 7:27?
3 A. Correct.
5 connected to?
6 A. Correct.
8 A. Correct.
10 Defendant's Exhibit S?
11 A. Yes.
13 A. Yes.
17 it's 130.
20 A. No.
23 A. No.
1 A. No.
4 A. Correct.
5 Q. All right.
8 CROSS-EXAMINATION
9 BY MR. HICKS:
11 You know, I'm on the phone with somebody and suddenly, boom,
12 it's dropped.
23 the signal, you know, gets blocked or, you know, reflected.
2 all?
6 populated areas.
10 connect to it?
17 A. Right.
19 real busy? Does the phone have the ability to hook in with
22 tower, yes.
2 make a call and let's say in theory there was only one piece
8 to another one.
23 tower.
1 it? Meaning that you could be close and maybe getting into
4 these sectors drawn and it's kind of like, no, if they are
6 there's no way that they are hooking into the quadrant on the
7 other side of that yellow line. I'm saying it's not quite as
9 A. No.
10 Q. Okay. Thanks.
13 REDIRECT EXAMINATION
14 BY MR. SWANSON:
16 would reflect if you crossed over into the other slice of the
17 pie?
21 that tower.
24 move into the other sector, the call is going, the call
25 detail records are going to show that a new call was made
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1 from that sector or that it's switched. You are in one phone
2 call.
4 the same call, it's going to show you keep switching sectors
10 A. Correct.
3 verbally.
17 here.
1 made with the defendant under oath regarding his right. That
3 this --
9 fully talked to him about it, but I'm just more comfortable
14 him.
16 him.
18 Actually, I just looked that up. I'm not going to ask him
22 and do it.
24 objection.
1 RUSSELL S. FARIA,
3 tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so
4 help you God, under the pain and penalty of the Perjury Laws
6 DIRECT EXAMINATION
7 BY MR. SCHWARTZ:
9 A. Russell Faria.
11 name?
12 A. Joel Schwartz.
15 A. Yes, sir.
18 A. Yes, sir.
21 A. Yes, sir.
23 A. Not to testify.
1 A. Yes, sir.
8 Evidence.
10 State.
20 Number 2, 3, 4, 11, 12, 15, 27, 29, 35, 38, Juror 39, Juror
7 to you.
10 tomorrow.
13 consider your verdict, you must not discuss this case among
24 a.m.
1 (Recess.)
12 clean set.
18 General Instructions.
6 is 308.02.
18 from 308.04.
25 says "yes"?
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16 Verdicts.
18 Verdict.
20 Counsel.
25 if the Hammer will be used or not, but the next form that the
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5 Form but it will not have a heading when the jurors have it,
8 Instruction No. 5.
14 3.
17 Count II, giving the jury the option to find the defendant
22 No. 9, which would mean they had also found him guilty of
23 Murder First.
25 them that if they had not, that unless they have found the
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4 9.
1 Mechanics.
12 State?
22 certain jury instructions and you received that and that was
25 stamped today.
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6 bench:)
16 jury, so I'm going to hand this stack to the State and ask
21 that?
23 Your Honor.
1 MAI CR-3rd 312.10. Can the State just verify if that were
8 time, are there any other matters before the jury is called
4 you don't need to say, so by the way, someone else must have.
7 need to highlight that by saying who else could have done it.
12 it.
17 his argument.
22 don't go any further than that and not keep going over and
23 over.
1 does point to him. We believe he's the one who did this
5 that said, by the way, who else could have done it? That's
8 rhetorical question.
15 be brought in.
22 38, 39, 44, 51, 58 and 61. For the record, all jurors are
23 present.
3 in these instructions and the two which the Court will read
4 to you immediately -- I'm sorry, the two which the Court read
18 guilty.
3 doubt.
7 you are not so convinced, you must give him the benefit of
15 to all be read to you and then we will have forms that will
16 go back with you when you deliberate and you will also be
21 first, that between the hours of 7:20 p.m. and 9:40 p.m. on
5 any length of time, no matter how brief, then you will find
7 Degree.
24 Instruction No. 5.
6 hours of 7:20 p.m. and 9:40 p.m. on December 27, 2011, at 130
14 Degree.
7 and,
15 offense.
21 Degree.
8 offense.
15 that Russell Faria was present at the time and place of the
23 the crime was committed, then you must find Russell Faria not
24 guilty.
7 should return a separate verdict for each Count and you can
10 jury room, you will first select one of your number to act as
13 jurors. Each of you must decide the case for yourself, but
20 alone.
23 agree and return them with all unused forms and the written
3 evidence and applying the law, but they are not evidence.
8 instructions.
10 such verdict under the law and the evidence in your reason
19 closing.
5 is.
7 Okay.
8 Good morning.
12 Friday through today, and for the last five days we've heard
15 little bit about her life. Who was she? She was a Mom. You
16 heard from her two daughters. She was a sister. You heard
17 from two of her sisters. She was a daughter. You saw Janet
2 That was just the glimmer of what we got to see into Betsy
3 Faria's life.
7 lived.
16 calling the police and getting out of there with her child,
17 he says, I'm going to cut you up in bits and pieces and bury
20 four years ago, five years ago. Well, I'm hopeful that
23 his plan.
7 closet.
9 front of the towel drawer in the kitchen. She even left her
12 their voice behind and what happens is the voice becomes more
15 got careless.
19 may not be able to answer every question for you, and that's
10 well, and the worse it got, all of a sudden Betsy finds out
13 going to just wait it out? Live in this life. Die with this
19 December 27th and says, well, she texts, actually, and says,
4 I'll pick you up. I'll take you home so you can rest. I'll
6 would do that?
10 o'clock.
15 happen.
7 said, when was the last time you saw Russ Faria? He said,
12 about for months, for years. The night. It's here. It's
17 sex with her. That he violates her one more time. That he
20 can. One more time. Knowing that she's tired. That she's
21 sick. That she's not well. She lay there probably disgusted
6 he's really hopeful that he's going to stab her one time in
10 like one, and I'm sure you don't either but guess what? The
13 walked in. My wife has killed herself and she has a knife
16 her in the neck. When she moved, he stabbed her with such
24 think that the overall feeling is, oh, no, this went horribly
2 to cut her arms. Except for we know that happened after she
3 died.
5 gets any evidence off of him that he has and then he comes
8 is going to be inquisitive.
10 inquisitive and, let's face it, it's the dog's owner and so
12 no.
15 careless.
17 Wentzville, Lake St. Louis and picks up his phone, gets his
19 would submit to you that Brandon Sweeney is the one that goes
21 Jack in the Box, just about five minutes later is the time on
22 those receipts.
25 his phone, and just as he's bringing the phone so that he can
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4 you will be able to listen to that 9-1-1 call if you want to.
19 alive at 7:05 and she was dead at 9:40. We know that her
22 mortem. We know that her Mom calls the defendant at 8:57 and
24 know that.
1 coat was lying nicely over the chair, just this far from his
4 the room and, if you remember those videos where he's pumping
5 gas at the Conoco, he's got his gloves on but his gloves are
6 all the way on the other side of the room beyond her body.
9 where the butcher block was. Knew where the knives were
16 floor next to her, but there was not any trace of evidence on
17 him. None.
20 not one, not one single DNA profile, other than the
24 bedroom, and I would ask you guys to take a look. These are
7 you, because I don't have a ruler for one and because this
15 it between the three pads of the dog's paw, you would come up
17 Faria's hip.
19 to all of the paw prints that were derived from the family
20 dog, every one of them will match that print on her hip.
23 had male and female DNA and the major contributor was Betsy
8 facing and I don't know anybody that just cleans one path on
9 the kitchen floor that goes from the dead body to the back
11 the sink, but the one drawer that holds the kitchen towels.
14 reacted.
16 her and the defendant said the last time he had intercourse
17 with his wife was on the evening of the 25th. Ladies, three
18 days --
22 28th and at that point is when the swabs were done. At that
25 sense. Reason.
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5 that? He just walked in the door. How did he know where the
13 hey, this guy, I think he's going into shock. And then
15 laughing.
19 judged him.
1 Courtroom now for the last four days. You saw when I put
5 the tears and you heard her mother say she couldn't even look
6 at it.
8 Because arguably, it's the first time he's ever seen his wife
11 doubt based upon reason, common sense and after careful and
20 and that we've heard over the last several days, that you
7 watched a movie and went home and did something and you got
18 home, got undressed and had sex because there was eight sperm
21 Yeah, and a smudge on the rectal area, that can last for a
1 couch. When did she have sex? He's naked and she's wrapped
12 video, when you see Russell on the screen, you also see some
13 guy walking through the door and he does this with his arms.
16 pumps the gas. You can see it all on the surveillance video.
20 alibis?
24 cell phone. If you look at this, the blue shows going down.
4 traveling south? Yeah. The cell towers will show you where
7 You see the text talking about we're going to do this and
8 every single person said that's what Russell does from 6:00
11 him. They play games. Nobody calls any of those people from
24 sort of ping.
20 We saw the picture of the dog food leaning against the garage
23 I will get it when I come in. Yeah, I got game tonight and
24 I'll get the dog food when I come in. That's his text. Then
4 you then.
6 everybody out to some New Year's party and he says he's got a
12 his wife and bring her home so she can spend the night at
21 proof.
4 are going to see a bag with toilet paper sitting there on the
8 mark.
11 much sleep. Mom snored. Okay. See you soon then. Okay.
12 Great.
15 responded to.
18 Those are reflected also in the cell phones. Tells his mom,
23 you, don't remember what I wore because that would sound too
4 got the color of the car wrong once before. He said it was
6 lying.
14 whoever did this to have blood on them. That night Russ went
17 And you know how we know that? Because if there was, you
24 They took his white socks. They took his watch. You know
1 you and you would have heard about it. Not one iota. Not a
2 scintilla of blood.
6 I don't know where it came from. I'm not telling you it was
7 the person who killed her, but that's how detailed this stuff
8 can be.
17 hours.
19 the 42 or the next day when they did the autopsy, those sperm
20 cells were still inside her. If she would have had sex the
25 transfers.
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8 their job and they have done it well, but they can't create
9 evidence.
11 because they are the best in the region. These guys are the
22 Because that would disprove their theory. The video from the
23 Conoco, just pumping gas. The video from the U-Gas, just
1 to you, the one from Greene's Country Store? The one from
2 Arby's where he went through the drive-thru? You can ask and
15 when you walk in? Well, you see Elizabeth Faria on the
17 Defendant's Exhibit M.
20 laid it down when it was on his shoulder, and then threw his
24 We read them to you. They are the ones with the burden.
3 them said? No. What they did was confirm what they said.
18 now heard it all. The State has not proven it. Don't you
19 jump to a conclusion.
21 tried to disguise this. The words are: I just got home from
24 floor. She's got a knife in her neck and she's slashed her
5 Russell said.
11 there in Rhode Island when he and Betsy got the news. They
12 weren't on their survival cruise with Russ and Betsy and her
13 mother and those other close friends when they were grieving
16 you walk in that room, all you see is the knife and the
18 that?
20 twice before, leaving a note once and she had been depressed
22 that conclusion.
25 the person who did this ever say, I'm going to say it's
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3 obviously not suicide what you see with the knife in the neck
5 didn't tell you, well, yeah, I knew there was a bunch more
8 there was any more wounds. The person who did this is the
9 only person who knew there were more wounds, and that person
10 would never ever, ever say it's suicide nor would they try
12 insanity.
18 Nobody wishes this on anybody but nobody knows how they are
19 going to react.
24 no, no.
22 blood, can you? No, I can't. You can't say if it's mud, can
23 you? No, I can't. You can't even say if it's a paw print,
24 can you? No, I can't. You can't say when it got there,
2 dog outside and we know it was wet outside. The State has
9 the lab, I would have been the one who tested it.
14 it's blood but the attempts were to enhance the paw print --
23 would have wiped this off? And don't you think he would have
9 side. Betsy was not moving when those stab wounds were made.
11 the exact same direction. The ones in the abdomen track the
2 and they put it back in her neck. And if you look at that
12 Pratt how do you get blood on the bottom of the shoes and
20 lightly?
22 when you dip it in that puddle. Ask the State to tell you
25 blood and then carrying them back, flipping the light switch
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4 The person who did this -- by the way, there are no bloody
5 footprints on the floor. And she can argue all she wants
19 droplet.
21 no paw print in the blood. If there was, you'd have seen it.
9 room.
11 he did it, except that insurance had been in his name since
16 That's why.
1 they went and took the tile, there was no barricade on the
12 That's what those people do. That's what the 9-1-1 operator
15 Morning Star Church where they go. That's how he calmed him
24 Merkel said they removed the drain pipes. There was no blood
4 about that. They have to remove the knowns. What does that
5 palm print on the door do? It proves that he went in and out
10 Don't you think there are prints on your doors? That means
11 absolutely nothing.
13 testified when she got back there at 7:04 with Betsy, that
14 dog jumps all over you. So Betsy took the dog and put it
1 alibi, show up at their house, leave his phone and say I'll
4 broken. Pam Hupp told you when she went inside, they arrived
7 jewelry chest.
8 She said she left and went home about that time
9 and then she called Betsy and Betsy didn't answer and she
14 know she went in the house and we know she was there for some
15 time.
17 that those gloves were worn that day, even if he was wearing
23 Pam Hupp said the last time she saw her she was
25 her. She said also that the last time she saw her was at the
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1 door, but if you take what she first said, she's curled up on
11 just what people do, especially when you know you are going
13 memorialize things.
17 it's not suicide and knows when anybody looks at that body
18 and takes that shirt off and looks at all of the wounds and
20 suicide.
15 have walked out the door, destroyed the shoes just like
16 whoever did this took all, whatever they had and destroyed
22 it.
24 more gas. He could have stopped anywhere and shown what time
6 because he was there and his phone was with them and we know
10 It's not proof and it's certainly not proof that can leave
14 done.
16 Pam was going to go take her home. Luckily, Pam offered and
23 minutes and you can watch this tape that we put together if
6 apparently, let the dog in. He's got to put on his slippers.
7 I would submit to you not any chance that anybody who did
15 wrist. He's got to then put the knife back into her neck.
23 and says, guys, if anybody was here, tell them I was the one
8 they sat that way for three hours and there was not much
9 conversation.
18 home, and you can look at the cell sites and you will see at
24 the only thing that they can present to you that links him to
1 Pratt, when we said, how does blood get on the bottom when
8 done? She was gone. She had bled out. Her tongue was
15 like it or not.
18 went out.
20 Dr. Sabharwal. I don't think they have any idea when this
22 blood was setting up. Have they given you enough to say why
1 innocent individuals.
6 can't.
9 are lying for him. I think he went there, left his phone on
20 shame, shame. Find him not guilty. Find that they did not
2 those guys that got up here; and I'll be honest, they didn't
3 come across probably the way I thought that they were going
4 to.
17 sandwich and come back to his apartment and come inside and
19 did he go get it and eat it and wad up and throw the wrapper
22 all they can remember are the pertinent information about the
2 he was going to buy, when we heard from Pam Hupp that Betsy
6 the record.
13 sit there for three hours, ladies and gentlemen, smoking pot.
15 you for 30 minutes without having dry mouth and having to get
16 a glass of water and they are smoking pot for three hours and
22 all very committed to the fact that his phone rang one time.
23 And they knew it rang because they have heard it ring in the
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5 his phone didn't ring at all until 8:57. Not during that
21 ghost killer? That someone just came in and killed her and
23 suicide, maybe I want to set him up, too, and I'm going to do
24 a really bad job of it. Maybe that's what they want to do.
2 myself if I'm going to come into your house and kill you;
4 because I don't leave one shred, not one DNA profile behind.
10 point, it's so far gone you have got to say something. He's
12 God, he's going to stick with it all of the way through his
15 this little hole and he's crying and he's on his knees. You
18 me? Still at that stage, some hours later, he's blaming his
19 wife. How could she do this to me? How dare she? No, no,
20 no.
22 the man she's married to. She has two daughters that aren't
23 his. She knows she's got to get her affairs in order, and he
2 he killed her.
5 then steps up close to get the dog away and, as he's giving
13 this, except for when you don't want to touch the handle?
10 believe the guy who was on the stand, which I really don't
11 have any reason not to, his phone stayed down there.
20 in the Box? And not only keeps the receipt, but makes a
22 and says that law enforcement told them to do that? Who does
23 that?
1 you have a loved one pass away, the funeral home takes care
8 else.
15 statement.
20 Russell's DNA inside of his shoes. The paw print from the
24 clear path from the body to the back door where the palm
25 prints are and a clear path to the drawer where the towels
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1 are.
4 that.
11 the light switch in her bedroom. She left her voice on the
15 were able to determine that she not only had sex but that she
19 and to try to find, try to hear that voice that the victim
20 leaves behind.
12 Courtroom.
22 hearing.
8 believe.
9 (Pause in proceedings.)
24 2013.
25 (Pause in proceedings.)
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15 would ask if you would please exit the Courtroom before the
23 by raising your hand. Juror 2, 3, 4, 11, 12, 15, 27, 29, 35,
9 instructions.
13 verdict?
16 Instruction No. 5.
22 No. 9.
24 the jury?
14 acceptable?
17 at this time the Court wishes to thank you for your service.
5 go.
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19 for sentencing?
24 20th is bad. Beyond that, I got nothing the next week, which
25 is Christmas week.
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