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L: yes, I`ve found my father and, of course, it was, well, you can say my life has changed
since then
He did not buy me an apartment, did not give me a million dollars, did not invite me to live
somewhere
I was already 20-21 years old when we met, basically I was already a shaped personality
But this changed my attitude to myself so much that this understanding of who I am, who I
resemble immediately finally felt right..
S: by nationality, right?
L: yes, then I got to know my whole family here in Panama, they received me very warmly
Grandma hugged me for the first time, tears are still rolling right in
She hugged me and said: “Despite the fact that you grew up somewhere else, you are ours,
you are Santa-Maria-Herra.”
I have a pseudonym in The Comedy Women - Elena Khulievna Santa-Maria-Herra
In fact, if everything had turned out differently, I could have had such a name, but probably
without “Khulievna” and not in Russia
S: you even learned Spanish, knowing that your father was somewhere in Spain
You are completely fluent in this language, you are a philologist of this language
L: *speaks Spanish*
S: It was one of the reasons why you ended up in Spain, I think
To try to flourish in your career, the Spanish language that you have been studying for so
long
L: yes, of course I can feel this language
And of course, you probably remember the moment when we did analogies, self-
presentation, and selftape, and then Lucy Lena, whose master class we attended, said that
Spanish suits me better
I say that I probably feel it in myself
S: listen, well, let's talk a little about the profession
It is clear that you have had dreaminess and determination since childhood
You were motivated by the fact that you needed to find your father and you visualized how
it would be
And that the Spanish language in this sense is very cool for a child who does not stop, sets a
goal for oneself and pursues the goal
But this is about the family and personal usefulness.
How did you get into acting? You have a specific work in the comedy industry
When did you realize that you are funny and when did you realize that you like it?
When did you realize that you want to do it professionally?
Tell us about it
L: it turned out that my first stage and acting activities began in KVN and I got there, one
might say, by accident
It is clear that there are no accidents in life, the ways of the Lord are inscrutable
But it happened, and basically I was not even a fan
S: as if you were walking down the street and someone told you – here it is!
L: I know, I know!
S: then the image was somehow developed
The most important thing is this feeling, when I realized that I was on stage and really
everyone was waiting for me and I was so warmly welcomed
Obviously, this is a certain adrenaline and just an indescribable feeling
Probably, a person who at least once experienced it all wants it to last forever
L: Have you ever had any incidents not on stage, but in life, connected with your recognition
after KVN?
S: yes, I had
Probably the most striking example is when we arrived in Sochi and rented a sun lounger on
the Sochi city beach
There was a flamboyant Armenian woman with these sun loungers
Her legs were in a basin of water, because it was hot
She fanned herself with a huge fan
Here she also had a small push-button fan
I mean, so flamboyant personality
Of course, she drank pear soda, such a colorful character
And when we took it, she was like: “Listen, I know you from somewhere.”
I am like… we exchange glances with my husband
She asks: “How do I know you? Listen, you acted in films?"
Well, she And then Valera, my husband, got it together, and said: “Of course she was acting,
do you remember The Adventures of Electronics? played one of the twins”.
L: well, yes, your spouse is in the team of merry fellows
S: and as she was lost in thought, we took a sun lounger, left and when we returned to
return it, she looked at me and said: “Exactly!”, and she kind of shook her head
L: cool .. tell me, Elena, well, here you are, let's leave KVN behind, you are already a film
actress and I'm interested in talking to you in terms of acting
When you first came to the stage in the cinema, you probably already thought about this as
part of your profession, your career, spending a lot of time on the stage
Once in the film industry, was it exciting for you?
Did you know any basics, did you take at least some courses, did you ask specifics?
In general, what are your first impressions of working in films and what is the difference
L: Well, of course I was worried and consulted on the matter
Since my first role, it was generally written for me, for my character
But still I ask myself: “how to play this?”
I feel like I would play it in KVN
But these are different genres, different styles in cinema
Well, cinema is undeniably easier than the theater
When I got to the theater, that's when I really seriously thought about it
L: yes, yes in the theater there is no room for error and therefore you must be constantly
“on”
if in the cinema you turn on the signal “action”, then ...
L: Well, it was difficult... It was difficult... I guess I wanted to find out more about how it
actually works
it is also clear that on the set there is always not enough time for anything
And of course, now it is very rare for directors to work with an actor for a long time.
Therefore, I had very few takes
You see how strange it is, for the first time
Well… I don’t know, the maximum was probably 3 takes. Can you imagine?
S: well, they wanted you, they knew you and that's all
L: yes, and I, you know, even doubted. I wondered whether I did what I needed to.
Well, that was such a lack of confidence, because it was actually the first experience.
L: I don't know, it seems to me that if you can play it and at the same time be so involved to
take into account the comments of the crew and so on, then it's okay
Otherwise, you think that you will go all on show, but you will not understand and will not
hear what they want from you
It seems to me, the very first minutes on the set are the most important ones as you
establish a connection with the director, the cameraman, and the director who sits on the
playback
S: Okay, Elena, if only it were possible before filming begins, to establish relationships with
them and know what they want from you
But of course, you are right. Understand how to navigate and what to expect
I wonder if you have any experience in cinema
What is the most memorable motion picture for you and why?
L: Oh, well, most of all I remember the shooting for the role from “All About Men”, film by
Sarik Andreasyan, because it must have been such a role.
Firstly, a wonderful partner Vladimir Epifantsev, I also still remember how, right on the set,
he actually dismantled all our scenes.
Before the shooting, I went to the coach, she painted me a little: this is what you want from
your partner, here you want this, and there that.
You know, this is all very... Now I understand that it was all so superficial at that moment,
but I tried to follow the instructions
Vladimir Epifantsev also helped a lot, because he dismantled all the scenes on the site and
we got good scenes with him.
And I'm not ashamed of that role and the film in general, it actually has a very deep
meaning.
S: Tell me the title again, I will write it down and watch it today and my friends too
C: easy to remember
L: yes, there are three stories that are united by a taxi driver, wonderful Dmitry Nagiyev as a
taxi driver. I played in one of the novels.
S: Was it a comedic role or not? In general, have you ever thought about what a comedy or
drama is, what is the difference, which is easier?
I know that you have your own project called “How to Develop a Sense of Humor”. This is so
relevant today, because there is really little humor.
Although if you open Instagram, people come up with jokes every day. And of course, the
more difficult the situation, the more fun the joke can be.
Can you tell us about this project, where did it come from, and the preliminary question I
asked about a comedic role in the movie “All About Men” and where do you feel most
comfortable, in which particular genre?
L: Well, first of all, the role was ... This film is a comedy, but in my case, it was more a
comedy of the situation.
I`m not saying that I did something so funny there, but it is clear that I played everything.
Overall it turned out funny, and I liked it. Because there are different ways to make people
laugh, different tricks
S: Tell us about it, about the techniques, share at least a little bit.
L: Regarding the project “How to Develop a Sense of Humor”, I started to conduct master
classes, I have been conducting them since 2012.
At a certain moment I thought that people often asked me: “How are you joking?”, “Is this
improvisation or not?”, “What is the difference between male and female humor?”.
I began to work on this course, based on my experience, and made such a master class.
And it turned out to be really interesting to people and ordinary people come to me, even
colleagues, singers, TV presenters came, who needed to add a little humor.
Q: How does the exercise look like? Lead by example so that it is clear to our listeners who
are not associated with acting and those who are close to the subject. There is a person, a
task is given and he or she must improvise on some humorous topics. Can you share how
you do it?
L: Yes, there are certain tricks and of course I think everyone knows them from classical
literature. For example, exaggeration is hyperbole, but to make something funny, you need
to exaggerate to the point of absurdity, then it's funny.
There is also a rule of the model, when, for example, you answer a poem with a poem, then
you answer with a rhyme.
For example: “Do you like coffee?”, “No, I like tea, and you?”, “I don’t know, I prefer vodka.”
S: This is the rule of three, like ping-pong.
L: Yes, the rule of three, then repeating the same phrase in different situations
And when I give a few tricks, then we come up with the simplest thing: download funny
photos from the Internet without inscriptions and come up with its description.
But it is imperative to share with friends to have some kind of feedback, so that we can
understand whether it's funny or not.
Because, in fact, humor is so tasteful that someone will fall on the floor, and someone will
argue: “What's so funny?”.
It is clear that the task of humorists is to guess, take the most relevant and sharpest topics
and guess, using their experience, what could be very funny. But still not a fact ...
Therefore, there is… (thanks)… there is such a thing as a humor test. (It`s hot)
S: Hello, baby. Elena has two beautiful children who make her life both brighter and happier.
Dear friends, I read your questions, I will definitely ask them too. I really liked the question
from Karaev: “What is the difference between male and female humor?”
: Not quite. For example, a man jokes about sports, and a woman is not in the subject of
sports, she will think that this is male humor. But in fact, it is believed that a sense of humor
depends on intelligence, mentality and much more.
The more versatile, well-read, educated a person is, the faster he or she grasps the
associative rows that we, humorists, turn into jokes.
: Literally in the title of the banner you can swap the letters and it turns out very funny. My
mother owned this technique, so I'm especially interested to hear from you. She could make
a joke from any sentence, and I always admire this skill, because all actors know that
comedy is the most difficult genre and it is natural, as you mentioned earlier, that it’s funny
to always find, guess what unites all people.
It always works on the things that everyone can relate to some extent, but at the same time
pretend that this does not exist.
And when you get there, everything is revealed, because it makes no sense to stay silent.
I notice that in comedy, when the simplest situation is taken and its exaggeration, which you
are talking about, it creates a comedy. You yourself write, as far as I know. Where do you
get ideas and inspiration from?
: Well, I had a period of active writing, when I performed in stand-up, I wrote my stand-up
concert and now, of course, I also come up with the scripts, but it just doesn't take so much
time.
I always say that it requires training, you need to constantly be on the humorous wave and
notice what is going on around you.
You watch the news, you see some funny news, and you immediately have something that
looks like a cartoon about Cheburashka, compare a politician with Cheburashka, for
example.
: But it is natural, when you are in a good mood, everything around you gains excitement,
and how do you set yourself up as a pro really matters.
For example, it often happens to me that I am not in the mood at all, but when there is
some uplift or some news, then it is really humorous and fun. And you remember how we
had fun in Spain. When everything was at ease, honey, a little sangria, and we laugh.
And when you wake up here and it's gray (I'm sorry, but it's true, and now it's only sunny for
a few days), there is a hunt for sleep, lots of things to do, a lot of restrictions, and so on.
How do you set yourself up?
: Well, there are also some tricks. Firstly, it is some kind of a physiological device. To feel like
a winner, you need to be in a superhero pose, did you know about that?
Well, it is when you spread your legs, arms at your hips, straighten your chest, raise your
head and seem to be flying towards an adventure. This is really proven. The strength in you
rises by 20%, the level of strength.
: Well, I don't know, a minute or two, and you will already feel the rush.
: Cool
: Also, for a good mood, a vibrant makeup in the morning really helps, and you need to put
on makeup right away so that you are in all arms and ready, and of course a smile.
Just check: if you're feeling sad, depressed, sleepy, just go to the mirror and force yourself
to smile, it takes some time.
It actually sends a signal to the brain right away; endorphins are releasing and you become
happier.
Any depression must be fought with sports, hugs, fresh air, maybe watching your favorite
funny films, TV series. My friend turns on “Friends” and her mood immediately gets better.
: A sense of company, girlfriends, of course contributes. This advice with a smile and a pose
is amazing, I will definitely try it tomorrow, because it does not take so long and if you say it
helpes, a woman who has two children, a bunch of projects and always needs to be positive,
then I'm 100% sure. Therefore, I will take this advice for myself here ... I still had questions
prepared for you.
Yes…I asked that, asked that.
What movie would you like to act in and in what role do you see yourself? This is a question,
you know, fused not to indicate the purpose of the life to act in a certain movie, but still...
You were training, you still continue to develop and I hear that you were interested in the
analysis of your partner, you turned to a teacher and you already have some kind of
background, which means that you will continue to act in films. Accordingly, do you have
any vision of yourself as a character, what kind of heroine do you imagine yourself to be?
There may be several answers, maybe something that has already been filmed, where you
see that this could be your role.
: Well, I have such an old, old dream, it's generally to play some fairy-tale character or to
play in some fantastic film about the future.
: Of course, everyone wants everything at once and lots of it, but I want to play a strong
personality, so that there is an arc of the character, so that he somehow evolves, and you
can reveal your acting potential.
: Well, regarding the school “How to Develop a Sense of Humor”, do you write scripts? Did
you have such an idea to write the film itself, the script and considering your own
capabilities, write some kind of story for yourself? I know that now you are rehearsing on a
series in which our best friend, talented actress Alena Chekhova, is taking part. The girls are
great.
Nevertheless, such activities are incredibly useful, they delight the audience. They are also
useful for the actors by not allowing them to stand still. I always admire this kind of
encouragement, a really great picture. You are already developing in this direction; do you
think about some larger-scale things? As we both know, time flies by the click: not so long
ago the children were small, but now they have already gone to school, figuratively
speaking.
: Yes, it turns out that, a lot comes to us by itself, the main thing is to notice it. It would
seem that I am an actress, so I play roles and so on. but first of all, I am a creative person for
whom it is important to create some kind of creative product and I cannot live without it.
Throughout my life, there were different projects, products, and of course I will continue in
the same way.
For now, there are just a few ideas that I want to implement. I am also still working on the
book "How to Develop a Sense of Humor"
- So cool
- It is almost finished, I think it will be published during the fall, so stay tuned. Well, there
are some ideas about the script, but the help of professional scriptwriters is essential,
because such a thing requires full inclusion. And I have many different projects that also
require my attention.
: There is not enough time for everything. When there is both a vision and a desire, and
there is no longer enough time. Moreover, it really will be ...
I have a personal question, I don't know whether it is appropriate to ask this, but I know that
your spouse, the father of your children, is also from the comedy sphere of activity. How are
you, two comedians, fighting, please tell me? Are you fighting at all? Or it turns out so funny
that you swear, and the children roll on the floor laughing. Tell me.
: Well, of course. We will have our wedding anniversary this year on July 2nd - 15 years of
marriage. It seems impossible to live so much time without humor. We are fighting, it
happens. But my husband is just a very hot-tempered person, so my participation is not
particularly needed. He can swear himself, then calm down himself, such a plan. And of
course, when you want to make peace, when you live with a person for so many years you
know what his weak points are, how you can make him laugh and you start communicating
and joke a little. When the atmosphere based on humor is discharged, it is already easier for
you to forgive the person and establish communication
:
You use this ability of humor, positive, and light in life in an absolutely natural way. It's just
that there is something in you by nature, and you use it and it turns out in the profession.
It's amazing to be a positive person, to live next to that person. I just envy your children; you
can make some kind of joke out of everything. Actually, why is everything so serious, right?
Well done, this is very, very cool. I will definitely come to you for courses on “How to
Develop a Sense of Humor", because everything is somehow very serious, everything must
be planned, and we are lacking humor.
: Well, what do you think, after all: not having a special acting education, having the
experience that you had on stage and then cinema, would you recommend people to study
acting, or is it something that you can do just because you have natural ability?
This is a provocative question, because you know that I opened my school of acting here,
brought the Meisner system from the USA, and with all my guests, we discuss the topic of
various cases of how people turn out to be famous in the cinema and what is the secret of
success, which, as such, does not exist, everyone has their own path. Nevertheless, there
still is a question. Do you think it is necessary to study or is it possible not to study, and most
importantly have talent and desire?
: I felt in myself that I had a need to actually learn. I'm just watching Helen Mirren's master
class right now, well, you also know this site of master classes. I liked how she said: “Imagine
a 5-year-old child, they act in films and they don't study, they will cry and go where they
need to, laugh and do everything. It's all easy for them, they play children, immediately get
used to the role, believe and live it”. Why study then? But you are not 5 years old, when you
are already an adult you are no longer forgivable.
: Yes, and just like in humor: there is funny, there is not funny, there is no other option. How
can you judge humor? It is clear that when you are an expert in humor, then you say: “Oh,
such a typical example is used here, what kind of humor is this, it's very simple” if you prefer
to be so tedious. I think it's either funny or not funny. You look at some of the
performances, Watching and analyzing some of the performances, I understand that there is
not a single joke at all, but I am laughing. It's just about how people do it and serve it, play it
and so on. With regard to acting, there is also this: you believe a person. You either believe
or not, according to Stanislavsky.
; Yes, in fact.
: Yes, a person could be organic or not. To achieve this ease, harmony and quick analysis of
the role, you should put something on yourself, so that the thinking process is visible, and
you are not just saying words or phrases, but that you are in the process. This is exactly the
technique we are learning. On the other hand, we cited our masters of theater actors as an
example, I no longer remember who it was, but let's say it was Oleg Dal, an absolutely
brilliant actor. Someone asked him ... there was some kind of theatrical performance and
when a person needed to say something to him, and he just stood and looked at him.
Everyone said that "this is a brilliant silence", asked about what he was thinking at the
moment, because it was so full of emotions. He replied: “I was not thinking about anything, I
was just counting the buttons on his jacket.”
: Yes, and here, it would seem, if he said that his whole life flashed before his eyes and he
remembered this, remembered that. Probably everything depends on the personality, on
the person.
: he played a simple indifference, which can be very strong. It's very interesting indeed. Tell
me, but as a master of words, humor, opening a school, are you going to further study the
difference in humor of different countries? Humor in Spain is not at all the same as in
France, and especially the USA.
I had a case when I staged our classic comedy "The Diamond Arm" with my acting teacher in
the comedy part and I was sitting in front, as I remember now, on the floor with the screen
and I start laughing at the moment where I really find it funny. I turn my head and see that
they are looking at each other like “What? Are you really laughing at that? " So will you
study the humor of different countries or only ours so far?
: Listen, well, it's very strange that they didn't laugh, because “The Diamond Arm” is
basically Charlie Chaplin. There are all these drops, shorts that turn into elegant pants and
so on.
: They just have everything based on gags, it's very strange. But since I am a linguist and I
traveled a lot and watched films a lot. I was, for example, in Holland and saw a street
comedy theater, and it was international, practically without words. But there has to be the
humor that everyone understands. It is necessary to study the history of the country, the
mentality, because there are so many of these small nuances regarding one city, not only
the country.
: Well, listen, Elena, there is an elementary classic American playful fart joke, we have never
perceived it as a joke. Rather, they caused dizziness. Here is a striking difference.
Indeed, like theirs, when the mustache was straightened, a big one was inserted into the
ass, we understand that we are laughing at his absolute indifference, but with this full
participation. He is everywhere and with everyone, but at the same time, as if not of this
world, it's funny. And how to explain this American classic humorous cliché, which was not
clear to ours.
: I don’t know, it`s a difficult question. I just want to tell you that now, it seems to me, we
already have it taking root.
: Yes, in recent years it has been taking root thanks to the Comedy Club, which actively
shows us American moments of openness. But before it was...
: Well, yes, it was considered something like that. In general, every person ... I also talk
about some vulgar humor, black humor in my master class and say that everyone has their
own censorship, a line. I have an acquaintance who is crazy about the topic of black humor,
the dead, all sorts of murder, or, for example, humor about religion. It seems to me that this
is somehow so ... but there are jokes so ingenious that you really laugh at and think that this
is of course blasphemy, but ... the same about a fart joke. It seems to me that this is so it's
so trite, but many films are based on this alone.
: What makes me laugh is… I confess…Probably it's not cool, but here it is. For example, it
makes me laugh when people fall. A person walks, he is so important, he thinks about
something and suddenly he falls down or he wants to do something amazing and fails. I am
both hurt and ashamed that I, Sofya whom I know to be so kind and fair, can't help it. If I
need to laugh, I just turn on these falls and… Just God, people, why are you doing this, just
why? What is in your head?
: No, I sometimes type “funny videos” on YouTube, for example. And there you can see it
mixed up. I never thought that you can just do such tricks at home, shoot yourself with such
huge asses, try to roll over. It's really very funny for me, but for a second, you can't build the
whole film on this.
: Yes, but it's Charlie Chaplin again. Kind of the law of humor, it’s impossible not to laugh, I
think. Especially if it happens next to you. Someone plopped, and you start to laugh
involuntarily, although you understand that it can be painful, someone is hurt, you start
helping, but the first reaction is laughter, of course.
: But in real life, thank God, I have not got a chance to see it. If someone falls, I won't laugh
in real life, looking at the pictures is one thing, such things happening in real life is a pity.
: You are not the only one, do not worry, everything is fine.
: Right. Elena, you and I have 5 minutes left. Please tell us something else about the project
you are currently filming. How is everything going? Do you like what you are doing? Do you
recommend watching you the series "On the Knees”, created during quarantine? There are
few people in our country who managed to photograph something, to shoot something on
camera, especially to such an extent with their own hands, keeping a distance. Did you
enjoy this shooting or did you stress?
: Indeed, I faced many difficulties, because I edited it all myself, one might say I mastered
and learned how to edit and so on, to expose the light.
Well, we laughed so much, it was fun, we had such a great time, and I'm glad that it turned
out to be a product, that we did it. 4 episodes are released, people watched them. In fact, I
would like to continue, but with professional operators, sound engineers, so that it would
be of high quality not only in terms of humor and script, but also in terms of picture and
sound. We have filmed 4 episodes, you can watch them on my YouTube channel, the series
is called "On the Knees" and now a fundraising on the planet.ru website is now opened to
raise funds for the salaries of professional operators, and so on.
Great
: So follow the link in my profile, take a look, be sure to write reviews in the comments.
Because in fact, I send it out to everyone and peole give very interesting feedback, I think
that we still want to shoot the next 6 episodes, they, of course, will be super interesting,
because many interesting moves have already been invented
I say goodbye to you and hug you. We'll be on IGTV with English translation. Kiss you, Elena
Bye-bye, my dear
Bye-Bye
See you!