DID GOD THE FATHER FORSAKE GOD THE SON ON THE CROSS?

Will God
forsake you?

DID GOD THE FATHER FORSAKE GOD THE SON ON THE CROSS?
CAN GOD BE SEPARATED FROM GOD?
WAS JESUS REALLY FORSAKEN? Will God ever forsake His own?
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The purpose of this file is to present another view of "Easter", or Passover,

events, especially of "Good Friday" and the crucifixion of Christ. We know
that God is Spirit (John 4). We know that Jesus body was not God, but God as
Jesus was in His body that was crucified, tabernacling/tenting in that body
until it died. We know from the Word that we are three part beings, that we
are in but we are not our bodies. We tabernacle/tent in our bodies in this life.
***John 1: 14And the Word became flesh, and did tabernacle among us, and
we beheld his glory, glory as of an only begotten of a father, full of grace and
truth. YLT
***John 1:14And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and
tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us; and we [actually]
saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such glory as an only begotten son
receives from his father, full of grace (favor, loving-kindness) and truth. AMP
***1 Thess 5: 23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely.
And may your spirit, soul, and body be kept sound and blameless for the
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

No less than James Kennedy, of Coral Ridge Ministries, would proclaim every
Good Friday that Jehovah was "of purer eyes than to behold evil, and" was
not able to "look on mischief" (Hab 1:13a). MacArthur in his study Bible
implies that God "is too pure to behold evil" because it might "damage His
righteous character." Pastor Jeremiah and thousands of other pastors
proclaim that since God was too pure to behold or look on sin, He could not
behold and look upon Jesus on the cross and so forsook Him there on the
cross, leaving Jesus to exclaim "My God! My God! Why have you forsaken
me?"

As to Christ being forsaken on the cross by His Father, I believe that Christ
was not forsaken on the cross by His Father and that He quoted the Psalm
22:1 phrase "My God! My God! Why have you forsaken me?" both to comfort
Himself by the rest of that Psalm, which shows that Father does not forsake
His obedient children/followers, and perhaps to point us to it to show us that
Psalm 22 described key events in His crucifixion. He was always conscious
of fulfilling scripture and He was fulfilling Psalm 22 at the time He quoted it.

An Easter doctrine and a religious tradition have grown

out of a passage of Scripture that is the God-
inspired record of a prophet contradicting
himself as he describes Jehovah. Habakkuk stated
"1:13 You are of purer eyes than to behold evil, and
canst not look on mischief:", and then immediately
contradicted himself about Jehovah stating
"why do look You upon them that deal
treacherously, . . ". In the same passage that He declares
that Jehovah's eyes are too pure to behold evil and
that He is unable to look on mischief, he then goes
on to contradict himself by declaring that Jehovah
looks on them that deal treacherously, beholding
the evil of treachery and looking upon the mischief
of treachery. This is the inspired record of a
prophet contradicting himself, and not the inspired
record of God contradicting Himself.

Hab. 1:12 Are You not from everlasting,

O LORD my God, my Holy One?
We shall not die.
O LORD, You have appointed them for judgment;
O Rock, You have marked them for correction.
13 You are of purer eyes than to behold evil,
And cannot look on wickedness.
Why do You look on those who deal treacherously,
And hold Your tongue when the wicked devours
A person more righteous than he?

***Hab. 1:13 [You are] of purer eyes than to

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(8686) upon them that deal treacherously ,
In one breath the prophet says that God cannot look upon iniquity and
in the next breath he declares that God looks upon them that do iniquity!
I believe that Habakkuk was speaking out of his own heart and zeal, like the
companions of Job, and that the Spirit accurately recorded what the prophet
said to show the reasoning of the naturalmind and for our edification. I
believe that it is an accurate statement of what the prophet said but I do not
believe that it is an accurate statement of the Truth about God.

Consider what the Spirit says about what Jehovah sees according to Hebrews
4:13.
***"Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in* His sight,
*=/NKJV: And there is no creature hidden from. --So also Lamsa
*=Darby: And there is not a creature unapparent before him ---Berry +/-
*= Amp. Bible: And not a creature exists that is concealed from His sight
*= Wuest: And there is not a thing created which is hidden from His sight

***but ^all things [are] naked and opened to the eyes of Him^ with whom
we have to do. Heb. 4:13
^This verse plus Psa. 139 and 90:8 reprove the prophet's saying
that Jehovah was "of purer eyes than to behold evil, and
canst not look on mischief:" (Hab. 1:13)

Consider the following that shows that Jesus looks on, sees and beholds our
evil:
***Psalm 90: 8 You have set our iniquities before You, our secret [sins] in the
light of Your face.
***Hosea 7;1 ¶ When I would have healed Israel, then the iniquity of Ephraim
was uncovered, and the wickedness of Samaria. . . . 2 And they do not say
within their hearts that I remember all their evil. Now their own doings have
hemmed them in; they are before My face.
***Ezekiel 35: 12 And you shall know that I [am] the LORD. I have heard all
your
blasphemies which you have spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying,
Desolation! They are given to us for food. 13 So with your mouth you have
boaste Ad against Me, and have multiplied your words against Me. I have
heard [them].
***Job 31: 2 For what [is] the portion from God above? And [what is] the
inheritance from the Almighty on high? 3 [Is] not disaster to the perverse,
and calamity to the workers of iniquity? 4 Does He not see my ways, and
count all my steps?
***Proverbs 5: 21 For the ways of man [are] before the eyes of the LORD,
and He watches all his paths. 22 His own iniquities shall take the wicked
himself, and he shall be held with the cords of his sin.
***Job 1: 6 ¶ And a day came when the sons of God came to present
themselves before the LORD. And Satan also came among them. 7 And the
LORD said to Satan, From where do you come? Then Satan answered the
LORD and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and
down in it.
***Psalm 69: 5 O God, You know my foolishness, and my guiltiness [is] not
hidden from You.
***Psalms 10: 11 He has said in his heart, God has forgotten; He hides His
face; He will not see forever! . . . 13 Why do the wicked condemn God? He
has said in his heart, You will not judge. 14 You have seen [it]; for You behold
mischief and vexation, to repay [it] with Your hand. . . . 15 Break the arm of
the wicked and the evil one; seek out his wickedness, [until] You find none.
***Proverbs 15: 3 ¶ The eyes of the LORD [are] in every place, beholding the
evil and the good. . . Sheol and destruction are before Jehovah; how much
more then thehearts of the children of men!
***Exodus 3:7 ¶ And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of My
people who [are] in Egypt; I have heard their cry because of their
taskmasters; for I know their sorrows.
***Jeremiah 16: 17 For My eyes [are] on all their ways; they are not hidden
from 3 My face, nor is their iniquity hidden from My eyes.

IF THE FATHER FORSOOK HIS ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON DYING ON THE

CROSS IN OBEDIENCE TO HIM, THEN SURELY THE FATHER MIGHT
FORSAKE US WHEN WE FALL INTO SIN OR ARE OVERCOME BY SOME
SIN, CONTRARY TO ALL HIS PROMISES TO US. I BELIEVE THAT THE
FATHER DID NOT FORSAKE THE SON ON THE CROSS THAT TERRIBLE
DAY AND I SHALL ATTEMPT TO SHOW THAT HE HAD NO CAUSE TO
FORSAKE HIS SON, THAT GOD THE FATHER CANNOT FORSAKE GOD
THE SON, AND THAT HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US NOR FORSAKE US FOR
NO ONE, NOT EVEN OURSELVES, CAN TAKE US OUT OF HIS HANDS
(John 10).

This popular doctrine of the Father forsaking the Son grew out of the
following passage:
***MATTHEW 27: 46* And about the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice,
saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is, My God, My God, why have You
forsaken me? 47 Some of those who stood there, when they heard, said,
This one calls for Elijah. 48 And immediately one of them ran and took a
sponge and filled it with vinegar, and he put [it] on a reed and gave it to Him
to drink. 49 The rest said, Let Him alone, let us see whether Elijah will come
to save Him.

We know that it was the Father's will that the Son suffer for our sins, and the
Son accepted the Father's will.
***Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to crush Him; to grieve Him; [that] He
should put forth His soul as a guilt-offering. He shall see [His] seed, He shall
prolong [His] days, and the will of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.
***La 1:12 [Is it] nothing to you, all you who pass by? Behold and see if there
is any sorrow like my sorrow which is done to me, with which the LORD has
afflicted [me] in the day of His fierce anger.
***Heb 5:7* [For Jesus], in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up
prayers and supplications with strong cryings and tears to Him who was able
to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared . . . . .

Did you get that? He was heard, not forsaken!

He was obedient unto death, so why should His
Father forsake Him? He was still holy God and
His Spirit was still sinless as He was dying
on the cross, because it was in/by His BODY,
not His Spirit, that He bore our sins. His BODY
was made sin but His eternal Spirit was holy as always.
***1Pe 2:24 who himself bore our sins in/by His body on
the tree, in order that, being dead to sins, we may
live to righteousness: by whose stripes you all have been healed.

He does not forsake His obedient ones and He has promised never to leave
or forsake us (Matt. 28:19,20). Consider what the Spirit says of Jesus'
obedience to death.
Heb 5: 7 Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up both supplications
and entreaties to him who was able to save him out of death, with strong
crying and tears; (and having been heard because of his piety;) 8 though he
were Son, he learned obedience from the things which he suffered; 9* and
having been perfected, became to all them that obey him, author of eternal
salvation;

Jesus was in touch and communicating with His Father to the moment His
body died.
***LUKE 23: 46 And crying with a loud voice, Jesus said, Father, into Your
hands I commit My spirit. And when He had said this, He breathed out the
spirit. 47 And when the Centurion saw what had been done, he glorified God,
saying, Truly this Man was righteous.

If He were forsaken, why would He talk to His father, committing His Spirit to
Him? He knew He was heard and spoke so to His Father.

Since God Himself is "a discerner of the thoughts and intents of [the] heart"
and the heart is deceitfully wicked SO GOD LOOKS ON, SEES, BEHOLDS,
PERCEIVES AND DISCERNS OUR DECEITFUL WICKEDNESS
-- THE VERY DECEITFUL WICKEDNESS THAT CHRIST BORE ON/IN HIS
BODY ON THE CROSS. CHRIST AND OUR TERRIBLE DECEITFUL
WICKEDNESS WAS FULLY SEEN AND DISCERNED BY THE FATHER
WHEN CHRIST SAID "MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAK ÈEN ME". THE
FATHER LOOKED UPON THE DYING BODY OF JESUS AND OUR SINS IN
HIS BODY, FOR NOTHING IS CONCEALED OR HIDDEN FROM HIS SIGHT
(Heb 4:13).
Perhaps from infinite Jesus' point of view in his finite (remember Mk. 13:32;
Luke 8:44-47) body of flesh and blood, our iniquities had separated his bodily
consciousness from His Father, perhaps the eye of His finite body could no
longer see His Father. Perhaps our sin had hidden His Father's face from the
eye of Jesus' natural body and to Jesus it physically appeared that He did not
hear--

Could it be a case of "but your iniquities have separated between you and
your God, and your sins have hid [his] face from you, that he doth not
hear."Isaiah 59:2
PERHAPS HIS FACE WAS HIDDEN FROM JESUS' natural
and physical eye, the eye of His body in and by
which He was bearing our sin AND PERHAPS HIS
FATHER DID NOT SPEAK TO HIM AT THAT TIME, BUT
NEVER FOR A SECOND WAS the HOLY SPIRIT OF JESUS
OUT OF UNION AND HARMONY WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT
OF THE FATHER.

He bore our sins in/by His body (1 Peter 2:24 with Hebrews 10:5-10 and 2
Corinth. 5:21), not in His holy and sinless Spirit. His body bore the curse of
hanging on a tree for surely He was cursed by His enemies who stood around
the cross and His body experienced the curse of death, BUT HIS SPIRIT
remained sinless and holy throughout the whole experience because the
Word makes it perfectly clear that He bore our sins in/on His BODY, NOT IN
HIS SPIRIT.

I believe that Jesus knew exactly what He was doing when He quoted Psalm
22:1. I believe that He was speaking His Word to Himself to strengthen
Himself through the ordeal. I believe that He not only quoted Psalm 22:1 to
Himself, but that He brought to His mind the whole Psalm which shows that
He was not really forsaken, but surely felt forsaken.

THE SUFFERING ON THE CROSS---

***Psalm 22:1 ¶ To the Chief Musician, on the deer of the dawn. A Psalm of
David. My God, my God, why have You forsaken me, and [are] far from my
deliverance, [and from] the words of my groaning? 2 O my God, I cry in the
daytime, but You do not answer; and in the night, and am not silent.

RECALLING THE HOLINESS AND FAITHFULNESS OF THE FATHER

***Ps 22: 3 But You [are] holy, enthroned on the

praises of Israel. 4 Our fathers trusted in You; they
trusted, and You delivered them. 5 They cried to You, and were delivered;
they trusted in You, and were not ashamed.
AWARE OF HIS SUFFERING

***Ps 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a

reproach of men, and despised by the people. 7 All who see me laugh me to
scorn; they shoot out the lip; they shake the head, [saying], 8 He trusted on
the LORD; let Him deliver him; let Him rescue him, since He delights in him!

RECALLING THE HOLINESS AND FAITHFULNESS OF THE FATHER

***Ps 22:9 For You [are He] who took me out of the womb, causing me to
trust [when I was] on my mother's breasts.10 I was cast on You from the
womb; You [are] my God from my mother's belly.

HE CALLS UPON HIS FAITHFUL FATHER IN HIS SUFFERING

***Ps 22: 11 ¶ Be not far from me; for trouble [is] near, for [there is] none to
help. 12 Many bulls have circled around me; strong [bulls] of Bashan have
surrounded me. 13 They opened wide their mouths on me, [like] a ripping
and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are
spread apart; my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. 15
My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue clings to my jaws; 16
and You have brought me into the dust of death. For dogs have circled
around me; the band of spoilers have hemmed me in, piercers of my hands
and my feet. 17 I can count all my bones; they look [and] stare at me. 18
They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing. 19 But
You, O LORD, be not far from me; O my strength, hurry to help me! 20
Deliver my soul from the sword, my only one from the dog's hand. 21 Save
me from the lion's mouth; from the wild oxen's horns. You have answered
me.

KNOWING THAT HE "WAS HEARD IN THAT HE FEARED" Heb 5:7

HE PRAISED HIS FATHER.
***Psa 22:22 ¶ I will declare Your name to my brothers; in the midst of the
congregation I will praise You. 23 You who fear the LORD, praise Him; all of
you, the seed of Jacob, glorify Him; and fear Him all the seed of Israel. 24 For
He has not despised nor hated the affliction of the afflicted; and He has not
hidden His face from him, but when he cried to Him, He heard. 25 My praise
[shall be] of You in the great congregation; I will pay my vows before the
ones who fear Him.

I believe that Jesus, who inspired “My God, my God, why have You forsaken
me” was quoting His own Word to Himself for Himself, too weak to say the
rest of the psalm out loud, as He had always quoted the Word to battle the
world, the flesh and the Devil. I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART THAT IS WHAT
JESUS SAID, FELT AND BELIEVED ON THE CROSS THAT TERRIBLE DAY,
"When He cried to Him, He heard." Jesus knew that His Father heard!
The following scriptures should be enough to end any doubt about God not
only looking upon the evil among us, but also that He fully knows and
understands it and will remember it for all those who face Him at the Great
White Throne on Judgment Day.

If the Scriptures given above are not enough to persuade you that God not
only
beholds evil but also looks on wickedness (Habak 1:13b "Why do You look on
those who deal treacherously?") and knows every evil thought in the mind
and
heart of humans (Ezk 11:5 "I know the things that come into your mind."),
then
hopefully the following will persuade you that Jehovah-Jesus is not "of purer
eyes than to behold evil" and does "look on wickedness":
***Exod 3:7And Jehovah said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people
that are
in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I
know their sorrows;
***Psalm 9: 10 And those who know Your name will put their trust in You; for
You, LORD, have not forsaken those who seek You.
***Ezek 11:5 And the Spirit of Jehovah fell upon me, and he said unto me,
Speak, Thus says Jehovah:
Thus have you all said, O house of Israel; for I know the things that come into
your mind. . . . 35:12 And you shall know that I Jehovah have heard all your
reproaches,
which you have uttered against the mountains of Israel, saying, They
are laid desolate, they are given us to devour. 13 And you all have magnified
yourselves against me with your mouth, and
have multiplied your words against me: I have heard [them].
***Hosea 9:8 Ephraim was a watchman with my God: . . .9They have deeply
corrupted themselves, as in the days of Gibeah: He will remember their
iniquity, He will visit their sins.
***Psalm 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, You are there: If I make my bed in
Sheol, behold, You are there.
***Jeremiah 14:10 Thus saith Jehovah unto this people, Even so have they
loved to
wander; they have not refrained their feet: therefore Jehovah doth not
accept them; now will he remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. . . .
23:23 Am
I a God at hand, saith Jehovah, and not a God afar off? 24
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith
Jehovah.
Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah. . . . . 32: 18 . . . the great, the
mighty
God, Jehovah of hosts is his name; 19 great in counsel, and mighty in work;
whose eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men, to give every
one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings:
***Amos 8:7Jehovah hath sworn by the excellency of
Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works.
***Mark 4:22For there is nothing
hid, save that it should be manifested; neither was anything made secret,
but that it should come to light. - - - Luke 12:2But there is nothing covered
up,
that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
***Heb 4:13And there is no creature
that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and laid open
before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
***1 Cor 4:5Wherefore judge nothing before the time, until the
Lord come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and
make manifest the counsels of the hearts; and then shall each man have his
praise from God.

That should be sufficient to put to rest the false doctrine the God cannot look
upon the evil, or that His eyes are too pure to behold the evil/wickedness.
God never took His or his attention off of Jesus on the cross and Jesus knew it
full well. He will never leave us nor forsake us, even if we fall into some sin
like the fornication of 1 Cor. 5. As in 1 Cor. 5 He will chasten us with
weakness, sickness and perhaps even the sleep of death (1 Corinth 11);
using famine, pestilence, disease, war, violence, violent animals etc. (See
Ezekiel). But we can always count on Him that the purpose of His chastening
us is our salvation and perfection in Christ. He did not forsake Christ on the
cross, and once we are His He will never forsake us, whether we be on a
cross, in a fiery furnace, a lion's d en, Jeremiah's pit or etc. He who cannot
lie has promised.
***Mat 28:20 . . . And behold, I am with you all the days, until the completion
of the age.
***Heb 13:5 " . . . for He has said, I will not leave you, neither will I forsake
you.
***Psa 9:10 And they that know Your name will confide in You; for You,
Jehovah, have not forsaken them that seek you. . . . 27:10 For had my father
and my mother forsaken me, then had Jehovah taken me up. . . . 37:25 I
have been young, and now am old, and I have not seen the righteous
forsaken, nor his seed seeking bread: . . . 28 for Jehovah loves judgment, and
will not forsake his saints: They are preserved for ever; but the seed of the
wicked shall be cut off. . . . 94:14 For Jehovah will not cast off his people,
neither will he forsake his inheritance; 15 For judgment shall return unto
righteousness, and all the upright in heart shall follow it.
***Deut 31:6 Be strong, courageous, and firm; fear not nor be in terror
before them, for it is the Lord your God Who goes with you; He will not fail
you or forsake you. . . . 8 It is the Lord Who goes before you; He will [march]
with you; He will not fail you or let you go or forsake you; [let there be no
cowardice or flinching, but] fear not, neither become broken [in spirit--
depressed, dismayed, and unnerved with alarm]. AmpB

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The Word makes it clear that Jesus, as God is a Spirit, lived in a "blood and
flesh" body, and that He bore our sins in HIS BODY, NOT IN HIS HOLY SPIRIT
OR SOUL.
***Heb 2:14 Since therefore the children partake of blood and flesh, He also,
in like
manner, took part in the same, that through death He might annul him
who has the might of death, that is, the devil; 15 and might set free all those
who
through fear of death through the whole of their life were subject to
bondage.
***1 Peter 2:21 For to this have you all been called; for Christ also has
suffered for you, . . .
24 who Himself BORE OUR SINS IN HIS BODY on the tree, in order that, being
dead to sins, we may live to righteousness: by whose stripes you all have
been healed.
***Heb 9:11 But Christ being come high priest of the good things to come, by
the
better and more perfect tabernacle not made with hand, (that is, not
of this creation,) 12 nor by blood of goats and calves, but BY HIS OWN
BLOOD,
has entered in once for all into the holies, having found an eternal
redemption.
20 saying, "This the BLOOD of the covenant which God has enjoined to you."
21 And the tabernacle too and all the vessels of service He sprinkled in
like manner with [His] BLOOD; 22 and almost all things are purified with
BLOOD according to the law, and without BLOOD-shedding there is no
remission. . . . 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness for entering into
the holies by the BLOOD of Jesus, 20 the new and living way which He has
dedicated for us through the
veil, that is, HIS FLESH, 21 and a great priest over the house of God,
22 let us approach with a true heart, in full assurance of faith, sprinkled [with
His blood] as to our hearts from a wicked conscience, and washed as to our
body with pure water [of the Word of God].

Jesus' holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, for God is Spirit, never died on the cross
and was never contaminated by our sins. HE BORE OUR SINS IN HIS FLESH
AND BLOOD BODY and shed His body's blood as His sacrifice for us to His
Father to atone for our sins, to pay the death penalty of our sins. God poured
His wrath out upon Jesus' body on the cross, not on Jesus sinless and holy
Spirit. Father never forsook Jesus, but the Father forsook to death Jesus' flesh
and blood body, which had to feel terrible to Jesus since He was
tabernacling/tenting in that body with all its nerves fully attached to His flesh
and blood mind.

Knowing their bodies would die but that their spirits would never die, Jesus
told His followers:

***J0hn 11:25 Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life: . . . 26 and
every one who lives and believes on me shall NEVER DIE . . . . 8:51 Verily,
verily, I say unto you, If any one shall keep my word, he shall NEVER SEE
DEATH.

The Word makes it clear that while those in Christ will NEVER DIE, NEVER
CEASE TO HAVE A CONSCIOUS EXISTENCE, our natural bodies will die and
"cannot inherit God’s kingdom"
***1 Cor 15:50 But this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
God’s
kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruptibility.

Such Scripture makes it clear that we are more than our bodies, for all our
bodies will die, but according to Jesus Word, we who are born again in Jesus
will never die, never cease to have a conscious existence, even though our
bodies will die. The Word makes it clear that we are a three part being, spirit,
soul and body.
***1 Thes 5:23 Now the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly: and your
whole
SPIRIT, and SOUL, and BODY be preserved blameless at the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Word makes it clear that while in this life we have an "earthly
tabernacle", our body, but when we are absent from our bodies and with
Him, we have a "building/house" eternal in the Heavens. When we will be
present with the Lord we will be absent from our earthly bodies.
***Rom 3:20 Wherefore by works of law no flesh shall be justified before him;
for
by law knowledge of sin.
***2 Cor 5:1 For we know that if our earthly tabernacle house be destroyed,
we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the
heavens. . . . 6 Therefore always confident, and know that while present in
the body we are absent from the Lord, . . . 8 we are confident, I say, and
pleased rather to be absent from the body and present with the Lord.
***2 Peter 1:13 But I account it right, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to
stir you up
by putting in remembrance, 14 knowing that the putting off of my tabernacle
is speedily, as also our Lord Jesus Christ has manifested to me;
***Eccles 12:7 and the dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit return
unto
God who gave it.
***John 19:30 When therefore Jesus had received the vinegar, He said, It is
finished;
and having bowed His head, He delivered up His Spirit.
***Luke 23:46 And Jesus, having cried with a loud voice, said, Father, into
your
hands I commit My Spirit. And having said this, He expired.

That should be sufficient to put to rest the false doctrine the God cannot look
upon the evil, or that His eyes are too pure to behold the evil/wickedness.
God never took His or his attention off of Jesus on the cross and Jesus knew it
full well. He will never leave us nor forsake us, even if we fall into some sin
like the fornication of 1 Cor. 5. As in 1 Cor. 5 He will chasten us with
weakness, sickness and perhaps even the sleep of death (1 Corinth 11);
using famine, pestilence, disease, war, violence, violent animals etc. (See
Ezekiel). But we can always count on Him that the purpose of His chastening
us is our salvation and perfection in Christ. He did not forsake Christ on the
cross, and once we are His He will never forsake us, whether we be on a
cross, in a fiery furnace, a lion's d en, Jeremiah's pit or etc. He who cannot
lie has promised.
***Mat 28:20 . . . And behold, I am with you all the days, until the completion
of the age.
***Heb 13:5 " . . . for He has said, I will not leave you, neither will I forsake
you.

Men, Brothers, husbands do not forsake, abandon, reject, reudiate, disown

and/or divorce their wives.
***1 Cor 7:***1Cor 7: 10 I command the married —not I, but the Lord—a
[believing] wife is not to leave, depart or separate from [Strong's 5563] her
[believing] husband. 11 But if she does leave, depart, and/or separate
[Strong's 5563], she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband
—and a [believing] husband/man is not to forsake, lay aside, leave, put
(send) away, divorce [Strongs 863] his wife/woman. 12 But to the rest I, not
the Lord, say: If any brother has an unbelieving wife/woman, and she is
willing to [maritally] continue on occupying a house, reside , cohabiting^
and/or dwelling [3611]> with him, he must not forsake, lay aside, leave, put
(send) away, and/or remit [Strongs 863] her. . . .15 But if the unbeliever
leaves, departs and/or separates himself from her [Strong's 5563], he should
go away/depart/separate/leave, [he should separate himself from her].. A
brother or a sister is not [legally, morally, maritally] bound in such cases [in
the Kingdom of God]. God has called you to peace. . . 39 A [believing] wife
is bound to her [believing] husband by [God's] Law as long as he lives. But if
her husband dies, she is free to be married to anyone she wants—only in the
Lord.

Sincerely in Jesus,
Tyler
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DID GOD THE FATHER FORSAKE GOD THE SON ON THE CROSS? Will God
forsake you?