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PICTR_Blog 19:57 week - How do we educate more teachers in integration of
technology into curriculum?
Think can tentatively say due to someone's technical wizardry we
eyebeams 19:59 have all the allied files and links - so #saveTTV has "saved" TTV
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ianaddison 19:59 ok, i'm sure we've discussed this and similar before, but how do we
get teachers integrating tech in their lessons? #ukedchat
Off to yoga shortly, so will miss start of #ukedchat - will try to catch
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up later!
please add #pri or #sec as well so we can gauge your expertise/area
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of interest #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:01 @ianaddison do we ban Powerpoint & Word and 'enlighten' the
masses to all the other ICT resources available #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison Oldest question in the book - make it relevant and
eyebeams 20:01 useful to their own practice - make it invaluable- pupils show way
#ukedchat
grahamcullen 20:02 #ukedchat #pri Ensure they have adequate kit that works
effectively. Outdated laptops etc turns them off even more.
Wish I coeuld join in #ukedchat tonight. Instead I'm on duty in the
chrisleach78 20:02
boys boarding house. Have a good one
oh, as host I see my role as facilitator and devil's advocate. Just
ianaddison 20:02
here to promote discussion #ukedchat
@GaryAveryICT but why ban a particular resource? powerpoint can
ianaddison 20:02
be made well and badly #ukedchat
@ianaddison Cliche now but should be made aware that it's only
misshbond 20:02 worth using tech when it has a purpose for learning not just 4 sake
#ukedchat
@misshbond @ianaddison I agree, but there are so many ways that
ePaceonline 20:03
tech can help in classrooms #ukedchat
#ukedchat #pri it is important to give them time to get to grips with
Cherise_Duxbury 20:03
new software / hardware too...
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GaryAveryICT 20:03
ok, maybe not ban....encourage other resources #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:03 @GaryAveryICT or let's type up this or that #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:03 @GaryAveryICT banning things is a difficult start when some have
not already grown comfortable with the obvious. #ukedchat#sec
@ianaddison Just think too many integrations are 'lets do a
GaryAveryICT 20:03
powerpoint' #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison make it worthwhile, easy to use and well supported.
PICTR_Blog 20:04
#ukedchat
@john_at_muuua agree. Technology is frightening at first-people
racheleppy 20:04 need to be confident with the basics b4 being able to take risks
#ukedchat
@ianaddison the total #ukedchat hashtag will account for almost
DKMead 20:04
10% of contributions #pri #sec
@GaryAveryICT Don't think you should ban anything. Lead by
ICTmagic 20:04 example, yes. Shouldn't we be celebrating modest steps into tech?
#ukedchat #pri
ianaddison 20:04 i'm trying to make how-to guides and videos for everything we use,
lots end up on www.undertenminutes.com too #ukedchat #pri
@racheleppy we need risk takers in our schools as learners and as
ianaddison 20:05
teachers #ukedchat #pri
#ukedchat #pri make them see the purpose too - so it is not just
Cherise_Duxbury 20:05 something else they have to get to grips with along with app etc
etc.
@ianaddison @GaryAveryICT I'm always opposed to banning
john_at_muuua 20:05 anything, particularly media. It's the message that matters
#ukedchat #sec
MoodleMcKean 20:06 Provide teachers will adequate time for tech training as they need
to feel & be confident before using it with learners #ukedchat #FE
#ukedchat #sec when you teach the kids new things you have to
Mr_D_Cheng 20:06 give them time, they don't always love everything first time - staff
the same
ianaddison 20:06 How do you get leadership involved? Sometimes it's hard to tell the
HT that you've found a new resource isn't it? #ukedchat #pri
ePaceonline 20:06 #ukedchat think it isn't right to see it as the only way. Positives of
tech should be integrated into whole range of excellent resources
Leadership should set expectations. They should say - this is what I
KempsterD 20:06 expect you to use in this school & then provide CPD for them
#ukedchat
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familysimpson 20:06 @primarypete_ @NickiA10 @ictdani wait time is good but needs to
be used selectively to keep pace of lesson going #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:07 might i suggest the problem is not risk, but maintenance. Badly
maintained tech is worse than nothing. #ukedchat #sec
@pictr_blog I agree that support, in terms of time to learn and to
racheleppy 20:07 reflect as well as how to guides and instruction are important.
#ukedchat
@MoodleMcKean Perhaps PPA time should include mandatory IT
colport 20:07
learning provision #ukedchat #pri
@ePaceonline Very much so but if they think it has to be used for
misshbond 20:07 everything, the less confident newbie may find it overwhelming
#ukedchat
#ukedchat #pri quote from a colleague 'I have enough to do
Cherise_Duxbury 20:07
without playing with software before a lesson'
BobToms100 20:07 If we're discussing ICT/new tech, are we too assume that every bit
tech tool is worthy to be in the curric? #ukedchat #sec
#ukedchat #pri hmm that is the million dollar question Ian- one I
Cherise_Duxbury 20:08
would like to know the answer too?
@Cherise_Duxbury Oh. My. God. That's like saying 'I have enough
misshbond 20:08
to do without planning lessons!' #ukedchat
#ukedchat #sec like Ian I make user guides for tech that we use in
JOHNSAYERS 20:08 school and run department workshops with how they could use the
tech
RT @john_at_muuua: might i suggest the problem is not risk, but
ianaddison 20:08 maintenance. Badly maintained tech is worse than nothing.
#ukedchat #sec
cherrylkd 20:08 @eyebeams @GaryAveryICT should we let people use tools they're
confident with + then encourage more#ukedchat #pri#sec
KempsterD 20:08 Too many schools 'allow' teachers to get away with not using ICT
(usually no strong leadership) Carrot and stick approach #ukedchat
RT @KempsterD: Leadership should set expectations. They should
ikeontoast 20:08 say - this is what I expect you to use in this school & then provide
CPD for them #ukedchat
how do you give staff time? staff meetings are so full with other
ianaddison 20:08
stuff already! #ukedchat #pri
RT @GaryAveryICT: @ianaddison too many integrations are 'lets do
joolzconway 20:08 a powerpoint' #ukedchat #pri thats coz a lot of teachers are
unskilled :-(
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@misshbond #ukedchat #pri she is a nqt and feel like she is
Cherise_Duxbury 20:09
drowning
#ukedchat is underway with @ianaddison - Pop along to discuss
ukedchat 20:09 How do we educate more teachers in integration of technology into
curriculum?
@ianaddison We tend to be the ones trying to get message across,
GaryAveryICT 20:09 I've thought of monthly ICT newsletter just to get message out
#ukedchat
#ukedchat is underway with @ianaddison - Pop along to discuss
colport 20:09 How do we educate more teachers in integration of technology into
curriculum?
grahamcullen 20:09 @ianaddison #ukedchat #pri If what you're doing in the classroom
has a buzz. HT and LT will soon get to hear about it. IMO
@grahamcullen #ukedchat This important point, outdated (and this
ePaceonline 20:09 happens almost as soon as equipment bought) can be counter
productive
Use should be made of (others') research into learning & pedagogy
BobToms100 20:09 to judge whether tech'll b useful before promoting 2 others
#ukedchat #sec
#ukedchat #pri enthusiasm for something has a way for breaking
Cherise_Duxbury 20:10
barriers
grahamcullen 20:10
@colport @moodlemckean #ukedchat #pri Good point about PPA
#ukedchat #sec Need to put tech in teachers hands. Still too many
isleofmandan 20:10 classrooms with only a chalkboard. Data projector + internet is
minimum.
#ukedchat #sec if tech is to be used full school it needs a full school
JOHNSAYERS 20:10 support network. More importantly is drive for students to
practice!
#ukedchat technology if used correctly should be involved in IQ
helenhamill 20:10 testing which may appeal more to autisic/aspergers child. current
test poor!
@GaryAveryICT love that idea...but why not a science newsletter?
ianaddison 20:10 or geography news letter? why is it only ICT that needs it!#ukedchat
#pri
ikeontoast 20:10 #ukedchat not to be the sceptic but you wont always be able to
turn everyone on to using tech..it's often based on a liking for it!
#ukedchat #pri ppa would be great - but not everyone sees how it
Cherise_Duxbury 20:11
can be embedded into all curriculum areas
#ukedchat teachers who haven't grown up with the tech are tough
ikeontoast 20:11 to turn! They have to be shown it's worthwhile to use tech as
alternative!
ePaceonline 20:11 #ukedchat Are there any trainee teachers joining this debate?If so
how much do you get taught about integrating tech into lessons?
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@grahamcullen @colport @moodlemckean isn't PPA just about
ianaddison 20:11 catching up with marking and planning for next week? #ukedchat
#pri
If tech solution worthy of inclusion (to aid/facilitate learning), a
BobToms100 20:11 matter of choice by individual teacher if theyuse or not #ukedchat
#sec
GaryAveryICT 20:11 @ianaddison maybe because we move so fast, we keep up, but
others don't...Science & History quite 'static?' #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:11 @KempsterD #ukedchat #pri #sec not all leaders are tech experts.
They need leading if its not their area of expertise though
MoodleMcKean 20:11 @colport Good start. Schools must also make sure tech works.
Reliability of kit & software is biggest turn off for staff #ukedchat
@ePaceonline too often schools buy stuff and tick the box marked
john_at_muuua 20:11 done without realising tech is a journey not a destination,
#ukedchat #sec
@ePaceonline @grahamcullen It's not about eq't it's about mindset
eyebeams 20:11
and agility #ukedchat #pri #sec
Teachers are not stupid. Stubborn, yes. If they see tech is a better
ICTmagic 20:11 way forward, they will migrate. We need to demystify IT #ukedchat
#pri
“@ianaddison: how do you give staff time? staff meetings are so
JOHNSAYERS 20:12 full with other stuff already! #ukedchat workshops, user guides
peer support
Joint planning with more tech-confident for some lessons to
PICTR_Blog 20:12
promote benefits? #ukedchat #pri
RT @MoodleMcKean: @colport Good start. Schools must also make
ikeontoast 20:12 sure tech works. Reliability of kit & software is biggest turn off for
staff #ukedchat
@JOHNSAYERS Pupils are the key - get them to take on
eyebeams 20:12
responsibility and model for teachers #ukedchat #pri #sec
misshbond 20:12 @Cherise_Duxbury Fair enough, I know that feeling. I guess some
people just don't get turned on by tech like others. #ukedchat
@ianaddison if some teachers find technology 2risky, its about
racheleppy 20:12 finding ways of reducing risk - training & time to build confidence
#ukedchat
PLN will play a bigger role in the future. Teachers taking
ICTmagic 20:13 responsibility for their development, just like we ask kids to do.
#ukedchat #pri
eyebeams 20:13 @ikeontoast If you took that attitude in the corporate world you'd
be instantly out of a job - just saying ;) #ukedchat #pri #sec
@ikeontoast found the personal approach works best. treat people
john_at_muuua 20:13
as people and they believe. #ukedchat #sec
@misshbond @cherise_duxbury #ukedchat agreed! U like u use, u
ikeontoast 20:13
don't like u use less
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@ikeontoast #ukedchat #pri Spot on! Some teachers will never
grahamcullen 20:13
engage.
@eyebeams Pupils should model for teachers? In what way? #
StephanieBaier 20:13
#ukedchat #edchat
jamesrcross 20:13 #ukedchat fostering the confidence to *try* new stuff is the most
important thing. Difficult for some teachers for lots of reasons.
Can't & shouldn't force use - topdown (HT) orders. That won't work
BobToms100 20:13 as staff'll get defensive. Spread the word, be a pioneer.. #ukedchat
#sec
@ePaceonline #ukedchat Agreed. Tech is only part of an array of
cherrylkd 20:13
resources to be used to enhance learning
@ICTmagic stubborn us a choice, hard wired is a different kettle of
DKMead 20:13
fish. It's the latter I'm afraid #ukedchat
Ive found the 'drip-drip' approach v powerful for those not ICT
mattbuxton10 20:13 skilled; informal 'do u know u can do this' or 'have u seen this'
#ukedchat
RT @Cherise_Duxbury: #ukedchat #pri ppa wld B gr8 - but not
Crosbiei 20:13 everyone has the confidence 2 try things w/o suppo… (cont)
http://deck.ly/~bP8ph
philallman1 20:14 dual approach in leading use of ICT. 1) Promote use constantly
yourself 2) create systems that only use IT #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison #ukedchat surely if the head's good they welcome
cherrylkd 20:14
improved resources and new ways of t and l?
RT @ikeontoast: @misshbond @cherise_duxbury #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:14
agreed! U like u use, u don't like u use less
one key way in is to target the BTs, new teachers with a passion to
john_at_muuua 20:14
develop that's addictive. #ukedchat #sec
Cherise_Duxbury 20:14 #ukedchat #pri it helps if sl share the vision
I would like to see tech designed for teachers. Teachers that have
AnthHard 20:14 to make to with software/hardware designed for others in mind.
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:14 we have digital leaders to help teachers with new tech e.g. blogging
so that they don't feel overwhelmed #ukedchat #pri
GaryAveryICT 20:14 I've always 'showcased' and tried things.. Some teaches pick up on
it. others don't..Also I spend alot of time 'playing' #ukedchat
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RT @eyebeams: Pupils are the key - get them 2 take on
Crosbiei 20:14 responsibility & model 4 teachers #ukedchat #pri - Use pupil Task
Team to lead learnin
@xPunzx @ianaddison @grahamcullen @moodlemckean Excellent,
colport 20:15
but who would deliver this? #ukedchat
@ePaceonline PGCE trainee, some good input but theres limitless
PICTR_Blog 20:15
content to fit in to limited hours! #ukedchat #pri
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@eyebeams #ukedchat unfortunately it's the reality not how I like it
ikeontoast 20:16
but the reality! Just saying :)
@kittyfisherp Or people who use tech in "normal" but inspired and
eyebeams 20:16
useful ways #ukedchat #pri #sec
“@PICTR_Blog: 'buddying up' of tech-confident and non-tech
JOHNSAYERS 20:16 confident? Surely this should be the way with all staff.... #ukedchat
AGREE
#ukedchat Teachmeets are great way of show casing excellent tech,
ePaceonline 20:16
but are we preaching to converted?
Ideas_Factory 20:16 #ukedchat Only way to 'turn' non-techies is to give them no choice
by integrating it into all school life & insisting they use it regularly!
@john_at_muuua @ikeontoast agreed! #ukedchat and
janwebb21 20:16
personalisation just as relevant for adults as for pupils
@AnthHard may I quote you on that?! been saying precisely that
john_at_muuua 20:16
for years now! #ukedchat #sec
ianaddison 20:17 @Crosbiei you tell that to the teacher at school til 6 then working at
home every evening to stay on top of things #ukedchat #pri
cherrylkd 20:17 @JOHNSAYERS #ukedchat #pri #sec we do that. Each expert makes
crib sheet and teaches other staff members or gives crib sheet
Is technology about using equipment or being innovative and
DrAshCasey 20:18 creative? Many times ICT facilities are booked out for mundane use
#ukedchat
#ukedchat #pri Too many teachers make the right noises when
MattFothergill 20:18
introduced to tech, then do nothing about it.
@janwebb21 That's our jobs as ICT specialists. Show the value &
ICTmagic 20:18 enjoyment. Show them all the time saving resources we get.
#ukedchat #pri
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john_at_muuua 20:18 @eyebeams @AnthHard gosh you must be old!!! But seriously...
absolutely hate 99% of the tech we are given. #ukedchat #sec
@Cherise_Duxbury I agree, start with what interests the children
ePaceonline 20:18 you teach? What inspires them and switches their buttons
#ukedchat
Investment is key too.. Up to date software & equipment boosts
GaryAveryICT 20:18
confidence...#ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison Think theres something wrong if thats the case.
Crosbiei 20:18
Where's the work/life balance?! #ukedchat
@cherrylkd 2 many hds use the excuse they are not tch experts.
KempsterD 20:18 Are they all Maths experts? Do they allow tchrs not to teach maths
#ukedchat
@ePaceonline #ukedchat #pri I think TM events are attended by
grahamcullen 20:18 the techy types. Make you wonder about all the missed
opportunities.
Teachmeets need to focus on non-tech stuff too. One yesterday
ianaddison 20:19
was ALL tech based! #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison #ukedchat yes, bad management, but it puts people
hrogerson 20:19
off when things don't work first time.
@xPunzx Or, teach the (willing) pupils up, so that they can teach
colport 20:19
the teachers? #ukedchat
U can offer ur servs as guide/trainer, but cos of teachers' busy lives,
BobToms100 20:19 don't have high expectations of being asked at early stage
#ukedchat
@ianaddison completely agree #ukedchat and patience
janwebb21 20:19 essential!!and usuning alternative aide memoires eg how to videos
so no one feels ...
Crosbiei 20:19 RT @MattFothergill: #ukedchat #pri Too many teachers make the
right noises when introduced to tech, then do nothing about it.
@ianaddison @Crosbiei But if it saved people time then they would
eyebeams 20:19
be more receptive #ukedchat
ikeontoast 20:19 #ukedchat as time goes on schools will house ICT that people must
use! Until we are told to use new techs, it's gonna b tough
Cherise_Duxbury 20:20 @misshbond #ukedchat #pri I agree with you drip feed....
@DKMead Very true, and I use things I learnt at Pri & Sec School all
ICTmagic 20:20
the time. #ukedchat #pri
ianaddison 20:20 @mooshtang if you told your friends you 'worked' til 9pm playing
with something for work, they'd think you're mad #ukedchat #pri
@hrogerson #ukedchat #pri Unless school has good technician with
grahamcullen 20:20 lots of time this is inevitable. I'm a HT and I spend many hours
fixing.
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kittyfisherp 20:20 @eyebeams #ukedchat #pri #sec exactly. Any decent teacher
seeing students' reactions to the wow of ICT will respond
@colport @xPunzx Yes yes and yes - I've always done this in #pri
eyebeams 20:20
#ukedchat
#ukedchat #sec it needs to be habitual, not just getting the one
Darney_ictteach 20:20
piece of kit out just for that 1 lesson
Mr_D_Cheng 20:20 #ukedchat #sec - a good starting place would be to have a textbook
cull to make the technology look even more attractive
misshbond 20:20 I wonder if it's a case of 'I don't like computers so I don't use tech'
for some teachers. Baby steps perhaps? #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:20 #ukedchat PLN where we'll all accelerate our understanding of tech.
No more feeling isolated you'll always have somewhere to turn to:)
@ianaddison I know what u r saying but I often find myself
mooshtang 20:20 spending evening learning new tech stuff. But not all like that
#ukedchat
@MattFothergill Because there's a disconnect with the reasons for
eyebeams 20:20 them wanting to use it - they book holidays and take iPhone vids
#ukedchat
@Crosbiei it's due to the amount of work needed in y6, new plans,
ianaddison 20:20
lots of marking, sats etc #ukedchat #pri
Joeleppington 20:20 #ukedchat #pri I'm playing devil's advocate a bit but would say a lot
of new tech doesn't improve on non-tech ways of doing things
use of tech needs to become part of everyday school life eventually
MoodleMcKean 20:20 becoming the only way... thats the way email became integrated
#ukedchat
@racheleppy schools just don't work to evolve in this way. no tech
john_at_muuua 20:20
is ever 'done' #ukedchat #sec
RT @DrAshCasey: Shouldn't teacher take responsibility themselves?
joolzconway 20:21
#ukedchat >> one of the standards isnt it?
@xPunzx I would teach the pupils during lunchtime/after school
colport 20:21 club, and they feed back to teachers during IT sessions #ukedchat
#pri
@ePaceonline #ukedchat - i would agree with this! preaching to
helenhamill 20:21
the techies! need enforce least standard
Must be very difficult for teachers who started when tech was
misshbond 20:21 sparse/not in schools. Just like our chn some find it hard to adapt
#ukedchat
#ukedchat I love tech! However the year 4 teach could take or
ikeontoast 20:21 leave it! Her kids come to me extremely well-educated! she loves
music...
Trouble is, there must be so many other lucrative ICT opportunities
AnthHard 20:21 competing with education@john_at_muuua @eyebeams
#ukedchat
@eyebeams Completely agree. But it is hard to find the time to
Crosbiei 20:21
show them how it will save them time! #ukedchat
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GaryAveryICT 20:21 I am sat next to 5yr Autistic daughter, she is writing phonic sounds
in the ipad... Technology driving learning, not outcomes.. #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:21 Is it the ICT co-ordinator's responsible to help teachers learn about
tech! Shouldn't teacher take responsibility themselves? #ukedchat
RT @mattbuxton10: Found 'drip-drip' approach v powerful thse not
BobToms100 20:21 ICT skilld; informal 'do u know u can do this'/'have u seen this'
#ukedchat
#ukedchat I wish I could convince others of the importance of a PLN
MissBartel 20:21
for pro-D especially to keep current w/ tech.
Crosbiei 20:21 RT @Crosbiei: @ianaddison Still seems a bit over the top. You cant
keep living like that. Something has to give. #ukedchat
#ukedchat You have to make the tech appealing,time saving &
Ideas_Factory 20:22 essential for the non-believers.Your passion needs to convince
them
Cherise_Duxbury 20:22 #ukedchat #priit is heartbreaking to share with the children and
then the teachers do not carry on their learning with them....
@eyebeams Wonder if it's also possible in secondary. I don't see
colport 20:22
why not actually #ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:22 #ukedchat Don't make technology an add-on, embed it
RT @GaryAveryICT: I am sat next to 5yr Autistic daughter, she is
misshbond 20:22 writing phonic sounds in the ipad... Technology driving learning, not
outcomes.. #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:22 we're taking the wrong approach. forget forcing people to feel the
need, but drive the change from the ground up. #ukedchat #sec
@xPunzx Or, for those pupils to get involved in the planning process
colport 20:22
with their teachers #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison @Crosbiei If there was a toolkit to help them save
eyebeams 20:22
time they would use it I'm sure #ukedchat #pri
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RT @xPunzx: #ukedchat i would love this, always trying to make this
colport 20:23 happen - but very hard to find the tim… (cont)
http://deck.ly/~Nyd0D
Those who think that all teachers who like tech are geeks should
BobToms100 20:23 see work being done in primary/elem education: incredibly good
#ukedchat
RT @DrAshCasey: Is it the ICT co-ordinator's responsible to help
ianaddison 20:23 teachers learn about tech! Shouldn't teacher take responsibility?
#ukedchat
ePaceonline 20:23 @misshbond #ukedchat small steps indeed, showing how it can
help is often better than 'imposing' - that puts people off
If TeachMeet a powerful model plan 2 or 7 min TM slot into fabric
peterford 20:23 of every staff meeting. Sharing soon becomes part of school DNA
#ukedchat
@DrAshCasey Yes, but human nature is that we don't seek out
ICTmagic 20:23 holes in our knowledge to our colleagues as we feel shy/shame.
#ukedchat #pri
@DrAshCasey agreed, about proportionate innovation - enhance
mattbuxton10 20:23 existing practice for 'uninitiated'; not everyone can/will be whizzy!
#ukedchat
@MissBartel keep going on about it, i have 1 tchr and 2LSAs on
ianaddison 20:23 Twitter,the tchr attended her first TM yesterday and loved it!
#ukedchat #pri
#ukedchat some teachers need convincing that it's ok for the
bilehs 20:23 children to be better than them with tech - use those children to
teach others
Ideas_Factory 20:24 @StephanieBaier So they don't get left behind!Not saying have to
use ALL the time!But should not use as excuse #ukedchat
RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat Forget evangelism - put all the
AnthHard 20:24
homework on wikis so people learn by doing.
RT @bilehs: #ukedchat some teachers need convincing that it's ok
MissBartel 20:24 for the children to be better than them with tech - use those
children to teach others
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janwebb21 20:24
@ianaddison #ukedchat a wally if they forget what you show them!
ianaddison 20:24
@MissBartel yup, i will write a summary tomorrow #ukedchat #pri
RT @MoodleMcKean: Provide teachers will adequate time for tech
JaneDavis13 20:24 training as they need to feel & be confident before using it with
learners #ukedchat #FE
john_at_muuua 20:24 @Mr_D_Cheng welcome to California! #ukedchat #sec
#ukedchat someone tweeted earlier: we need to engage leaders in
ikeontoast 20:24
tech to get people to use tech!
@DrAshCasey #ukedchat #pri IT coordinator has big responsibility.
grahamcullen 20:24 Should they get equivalent of SENCO allowance? Would give them
more cred.
#ukedchat Forget evangelism - put all the homework on wikis so
jimbo9848 20:24
people learn by doing.
The teachers Daily is out! http://bit.ly/i68HMC â–¸ Top stories
Flyingstartedu 20:24 today via @jdeyenberg @ukedchat @bryanharrison31 @squiggle7
@carolinebreyley
Gah!!!! Problems sending tweets to #ukedchat apologies for lack of
janwebb21 20:25
flow!!!
ICTmagic 20:25 @janwebb21 I always use the example of MFL. Very difficult to
learn/use well without guidance. ICT is the same. #ukedchat #pri
JOHNSAYERS 20:25 Kids love new things they might not always work but we have to
allow them to explore try new creativity. #ukedchat
@Cherise_Duxbury We are not losing the art - the art of
colport 20:25 conversation is changing (look at us lot now, for example)
#ukedchat
@misshbond #ukedchat #pri You say that but I know many younger
grahamcullen 20:25
teachers with low IT interest and vice versa
@peterford Has anyone used TM model internally for staff
MoodleMcKean 20:25
development? What impact did it have? #ukedchat
I've always thought TM style idea sharing during inset days would
Crosbiei 20:25 be much more beneficial & productive than buying in a 'speaker'
#ukedchat
@Crosbiei should the PE teacher be there to support those who
DrAshCasey 20:25 want to exercise? or the music teach for those who download
tunes? #ukedchat
mooshtang 20:25 @ianaddison I think initial time investment to understand the tech
before doing with kids puts some off but I see it as cpd #ukedchat
@colport SSAT are introducing a scheme I think video here : Paul
eyebeams 20:25
Hynes http://blip.tv/file/4646786 #ukedchat #sec
@MattFothergill Totally agree - I'm working on something for
eyebeams 20:26
senior managers #ukedchat #sec
If every schl embedded the old Becta SRF in their schl then we
KempsterD 20:26 wouldn't be having this discussion. ICT Leader cannot do it alone
#ukedchat
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RT @MoodleMcKean: @peterford Has any1 used TeachMeet model
BobToms100 20:26 internally 4 staff dev? What impact did it have? #ukedchat >Sounds
like gud idea!
Absolutely.. To lead a school ethos of embedded ICT RT
kittyfisherp 20:26 @ikeontoast: #ukedchat someone tweeted earlier: we need (cont)
http://tl.gd/a4vp3h
prob with sharing in school (or anywhere) is ppl who think what
ianaddison 20:26 they have to share isn't good enough, encouragement is key
#ukedchat #pri
john_at_muuua 20:26
@janwebb21 problems with the tech methinks. :-) #ukedchat #sec
@xPunzx Is lunch time an option? #ukedchat I appreciate it's a
colport 20:26
challenge on your spare time though.
@colport #ukedchat #priI agree but that is what was said to
Cherise_Duxbury 20:26
me....'they want the face to face conversation'
@Crosbiei I think ICT co-rod should help with student lining.
DrAshCasey 20:26
#ukedchat
But it's not always about the tech once you can use IE then a world
GaryAveryICT 20:26 of new resources is open to you and more importantly your
class#ukedchat
RT @xPunzx: I'm secondary, have pupils who say they want to help,
colport 20:26 but then diffi staying behind after school etc makes it hard!
#ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:26 #ukedchat Why isn't yr lesson programme for this term available
online? Would you like a course where the content was secret?
RT @DrAshCasey: should the PE tchr be there to support those who
ianaddison 20:26 want to exercise? or the music tchr for those who download tunes?
#ukedchat
AnthHard 20:26 Has any one been to a science TM? #ukedchat
@eyebeams #ukedchat HT's have as large a part as ict co-ord's in
MattFothergill 20:26 "encouraging" staff to adopt. Management weight sometimes
needed.
@mooshtang @ianaddison Yes and that should be recognised on all
eyebeams 20:26
levels #ukedchat
misshbond 20:26 Maybe best to start with demonstrating tech's use to get the ideas
in teachers' heads until they become more receptive? #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: prob with sharing in school (or anywhere) is ppl
GrazReed 20:27 who think what they have to share isn't good enough,
encouragement is key #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison I always wonder at that - we "are" educators
eyebeams 20:27
#ukedchat
@misshbond hey that's me!!! Had to go on 'Computing for nervous'
ePaceonline 20:27
course.....now really enjoy it all.#ukedchat
@colport @Cherise_Duxbury evidence shows students
john_at_muuua 20:27 communicate more in written forms than ever before. #ukedchat
#sec
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@Cherise_Duxbury Mmm, frustrating. We need to prepare pupils
colport 20:27 for their futures, whether we like it or not. They need both
#ukedchat
Cherise_Duxbury 20:27 @BobToms100 #ukedchat #priyes I like this idea too
@ianaddison they think we're mad for doing #ukedchat to relax
cherrylkd 20:27
while learning. No difference
If only all teachers were aware and WILLING to give twitter a go!
JOHNSAYERS 20:27
#ukedchat
RT @peterford: If TeachMeet a powerful model plan 2 or 7 min TM
mooshtang 20:27 slot into fabric of every staff meeting. Sharing soon becomes part of
school DNA #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:29 Please remember to include the #ukedchat hash tag in your tweets
for your comments to be included in the archive. Thank you :-)
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#ukedchat Becta was often us and them. Use the tech to make the
jimbo9848 20:29 team's job better. Not for any other reason! If Twiter does a job,
use it.
I've used wallwisher iPods & Moodle at SMT conference now big
MoodleMcKean 20:29 increase in this kind tech use, as managers ask how teachers use it
#ukedchat
I'd like time to 'drop' in and support teachers, can't do as much
GaryAveryICT 20:29
when I have a class of my own..#ukedchat
I've done lunchtime workshops, always the case that the people
GaryAveryICT 20:30
you really need there are 'busy!' #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:30
@mooshtang i'm a loser too then and proud of it #ukedchat #pri
mooshtang 20:30 @ianaddison I know they would but it doesn't always feel like work
in same way even though it is. I'm a loser I guess! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:30 @eyebeams soooooo true! #ukedchat
MattFothergill 20:30 @eyebeams #ukedchat #pri I sometimes feel I have to adopt a sales
pitch approach to senior managers, then same again to rest of staff.
On positive side, show then something like Storybird
KempsterD 20:30
www.storybird.com. A real winner #ukedchat
@MissBartel Summaries from #ukedchat are placed on the blog
colport 20:30
http://bit.ly/92NqSU (@Ideas_Factory )
@grahamcullen I think they're important but feel that teachers
DrAshCasey 20:30 have to take responsibility for how they facilitate learning.
#ukedchat
@MarrGeog geog class were chatting with scientists in Antarctic on
JOHNSAYERS 20:30 twitter yesterday! Tech can inspire n make t world accessible!
#ukedchat
RT @GaryAveryICT: I've done lunchtime workshops ... #ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:31
Who are you doing, Gary and why?
ianaddison 20:31 luckily lots of web 2 tech is becoming easier to use so showing it
can take seconds, take @poppletny for example #ukedchat #pri
jackcl 20:31 do other teachers have the same passion about pedagogy as keen
users of ICT seem to? where do they go to share/learn #ukedchat
colport 20:31 @xPunzx Excellent, I will hold you to it :-) #ukedchat
#ukedchat Teachers _must_ be given time in meetings or inset to
reflectivemaths 20:31
_use_ teach. Being shown isn't enough.
#ukedchat #sec perhaps you need to identify a learning need and
Darney_ictteach 20:31 then satisfy that need with tech? I use tech to share and peer assess
work
#ukedchat #pri @ianaddison me too! the children make it
Cherise_Duxbury 20:31 worthwhile - oh and the dinner ladies take pity on me and give me
free lunch
RT @xPunzx: @colport #ukedchat I think nxt yr it is somethin i will
colport 20:31 try 2develop, have a history council or so… (cont)
http://deck.ly/~UTxDk
sharland 20:31 what's the topic tonight? #ukedchat
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Re: the ICT co-ord issue, ICT is not like other subjects but should be
PICTR_Blog 20:31
a part of every lesson/subject/topic.#ukedchat
Cherise_Duxbury 20:32 @ianaddison #ukedchat #priit's a lonely job
ianaddison 20:32 i still can't believe that so many schools only have 1 person as ICT
coordinator. It's surely at least the job of 2 people! #ukedchat #pri
@colport I get 'told off' for using my laptop during staff meetings!
Crosbiei 20:32
#ukedchat
@grahamcullen Very true, but at least they've had the advantage of
misshbond 20:32
growing up with it (ish!) #ukedchat
reflectivemaths 20:32 #ukedchat *tech not teach
#ukedchat For me-always a case of time-I did a whole day with TAs
Ideas_Factory 20:32 in school-staff mtgs too quick to take in.ALL TAs appreciated &
developed
@ikeontoast not forgetting we can be the introducer of new tech /
kittyfisherp 20:32
ideas, a good leader listens #ukedchat
colport 20:32 @reflectivemaths Agree. At the next staff meeting, I am giving all
staff a laptop to use DURING THE MEETING ;-) #ukedchat
ICT should facilitate & stimulate better ways of thinking,
mattbuxton10 20:33 communicating, collaborating, researching and/or creating outputs;
#ukedchat
@cherrylkd I have real trouble getting one staff meeting a term!
Crosbiei 20:33
#ukedchat
@KempsterD photostories,pivotstick animator and 'blogger' blogs
bilehs 20:33 are also fab things for teachers who lack confidence to start with
#ukedchat
@Crosbiei @colport I get told off for using my smart phone to make
john_at_muuua 20:33
notes. #ukedchat #sec
#ukedchat Biggest barrier for me is having to tinker with things
reflectivemaths 20:33
when they don't quite work first time #sec
RT @colport: @reflectivemaths, I am giving all staff a laptop to use
jimbo9848 20:33 DURING THE MEETING ;-) #ukedchat No, no… (cont)
http://deck.ly/~NJ6Ai
@Ideas_Factory i want to train TAs, but they'r needed for
ianaddison 20:33
literacy/numeracy #ukedchat #pri
ikeontoast 20:33 @kittyfisherp #ukedchat indeed! It's us who need to enthuse the
leaders and be them too! LEA's have job to do 2 :)
@Crosbiei I get 'told off' for using my mouth during staff meetings!
colport 20:33
#ukedchat But that is 'my bad' ;-)
RT @DrAshCasey: Is technology about using equipment or being
isleofmandan 20:33 innovative and creative? Many times ICT facilities are booked out
for mundane use #ukedchat
@GaryAveryICT #ukedchat could you not set aside one staff
cherrylkd 20:33
meeting each month for cpd in tech to help with this?
@Ideas_Factory Excellent....it may be easier to train TA's to use
colport 20:33
tech, so they can support teachers #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:33 @ianaddison Or a full-time, non-teaching job #ukedchat
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did anyone start using twitter because management told them to?
john_at_muuua 20:33
#ukedchat #sec (genuine question BTW)
@reflectivemaths Anything "new" needs months of embedding
eyebeams 20:33 with some staff and days with pupils get pupils to do the heavy
lifting #ukedchat
@Crosbiei @colport #ukedchat #pri That's terrible! Who tells you
grahamcullen 20:34
off?
@ianaddison Agree re curriculum support, planning and evaluating
suerobinson2 20:34 chn's work but hate to see ICT leaders used as unpaid technicians
#ukedchat
ICTmagic 20:34 @ianaddison Most heads don't see the importance of high levels of
ICT. Enough to get by. Sad :( 2 Co-ords good idea. #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison #ukedchat Think you really need good technical
ePaceonline 20:34 support in form of technician, thought of equip not working can put
off
@ianaddison #ukedchat #pri Depends on how much external
johnmclear 20:34
support they get I guess..
@jimbo9848 #ukedchat They already have them, but use them at
colport 20:34
home :-s
@ianaddison #ukedchat #pri Excellent point. Never thought of that.
grahamcullen 20:34
Two ICT coordinators or more. Brilliant!
Does anybody actually know if ICT is part of their schools
GaryAveryICT 20:34
performance management targets? #ukedchat
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KempsterD 20:35 @ianaddison I am an Assessor too. Agree its much better. 6 ky
areas, done well, make an impact. CPD integral part. #ukedchat
RT @colport: @jimbo9848 #ukedchat They already have them, but
jimbo9848 20:35 use them at home :-s Is that a bad thing? They should use them all
the time.
@eyebeams @john_at_muuua @colport I call that 'multi-tasking'!
Crosbiei 20:35
#ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: @Ideas_Factory i want to train TAs, but they'r
rosiegirl7005 20:35
needed for literacy/numeracy #ukedchat #pri
@Ideas_Factory @jimbo9848 Mmm, Becta missed many tricks,
colport 20:36
IMHO #ukedchat
ICTmagic 20:36 @reflectivemaths What types of files? #ukedchat #pri
ePaceonline 20:36 @misshbond #ukedchat oh thanks but you have a good point - I
think there is a generation of teachers nervous of new tech
ianaddison 20:37 @GaryAveryICT i want it to be, but doub't it'll happen. I haven't
even had performance mgmt this year #ukedchat #pri
GaryAveryICT 20:37 Honestly I like powerpoint :o) #ukedchat
@bilehs @janwebb21 @ianaddison 'and ICT lovers take risks'...
john_at_muuua 20:37
hope they practice safe text #ukedchat #sec
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Ideas_Factory 20:37 @jimbo9848 #ukedchat CP is resp for amazing rise in creativity in
sch-BECTA could have done same for ICT/Creative tech!
RT @ePaceonline: @misshbond #ukedchat I think there is a
jimbo9848 20:37 generation of teachers nervous of new tech. Dare we blame
BECTA?
ePaceonline 20:38 #ukedchat Good quality training and plenty of opportunity to share
and try out also makes a difference but time is a factor here
RT @eyebeams: @colport @Ideas_Factory @jimbo9848 Top down
jimbo9848 20:38 needs to be balanced against bottom up - they got there too late
#ukedchat
@mattbuxton10 yeah going to try, but it'd be my PPA i'd be giving
ianaddison 20:38
up to train them! #ukedchat #pri
@Crosbiei #ukedchat #pri exactly what I mean...a subject that is
Cherise_Duxbury 20:38
taught once a week
colport 20:38 Have you got a question you would like to see discussed during a
future #ukedchat Session? Share your idea at http://bit.ly/kd6c5x
ukedchat 20:38 Have you got a question you would like to see discussed during a
future #ukedchat Session? Share your idea at http://bit.ly/kd6c5x
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RT @ukedchat: Have you got a question you would like to see
ianaddison 20:39 discussed during a future #ukedchat Session?Share your idea
http://bit.ly/kd6c5x
Ideas_Factory 20:39 @ianaddison #ukedchat We pulled them all for 1 day-teachers can
cope FFS-I had 36 kids & no TA!U do need SMT support(only way)
Crosbiei 20:39 @GaryAveryICT There is some ICT teaching, but as its no longer
discrete, it tends to be heavily MS office related. #ukedchat
RT @jimbo9848: RT @eyebeams: @colport @Ideas_Factory
john_at_muuua 20:39 @jimbo9848 Top down needs to be balanced against bottom up -
they got there too late #ukedchat
RT @ukedchat: Have you got a question you would like to see
nuuutymel 20:39 discussed during a future #ukedchat Session? Share your idea at
http://bit.ly/kd6c5x
@ictmagic things like .avi .wmv .mov .camrec .swf and converting
reflectivemaths 20:39
sometimes makes big files #ukedchat #sec
@MoodleMcKean @xPunzx @colport Genius bar sounds like a
Mr_D_Cheng 20:39
great idea #ukedchat
@reflectivemaths I think the motivation to do something far
DrAshCasey 20:39
outweighs equipment #ukedchat
eyebeams 20:39 DO people think teachers into ICT are more likely to be "self-
starters" when it comes to CPD, training, initiatives etc #ukedchat
@grahamcullen @Crosbiei @colport #ukedchat we'e actively
cherrylkd 20:39 encouraged to use ipads to take notesif we wish. sent on courses
with them as well
@GaryAveryICT #ukedchat Perf man-It's part of mine but then I'm
Ideas_Factory 20:40
ICT co-ord ;^)
@mattbuxton10 But like a language they need a grammar and
eyebeams 20:40 syntax so need to DO it more - get the pupils to show them
#ukedchat
To reiterate, be pioneer, blend of formal & informal mthds of
BobToms100 20:40 offering 2 show & leading training. Find method that works 4 ur schl
#ukedchat
@john_at_muuua Teaching/learning in 'topics' not subjects
Crosbiei 20:40
#ukedchat
johnmclear 20:40 #ukedchat the sooner we can get away from training kids how to
use office the sooner we get them prepared for the real world.
janwebb21 20:40 @GaryAveryICT a tremendous example of it not being the tool that
is important but the way it is used that is important#ukedchat
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#ukedchat look at geocaching an active PE, Geography History, Art,
JOHNSAYERS 20:40
English cross-curriculum on and ICT!
jimbo9848 20:40 #ukedchat People use computers to do things as they make them
easier; the invitation/training model is so old fashioned,
Crosbiei 20:42 @ICTmagic I agree. But there is now v. little ICT teaching at all, even
as part of a topic cos no topics are ICT driven. #ukedchat
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@reflectivemaths Ah, yes. Not much can be done about vid/audio
ICTmagic 20:42
files. Alias! #ukedchat #pri
@drashcasey I agree but think that too few ppl even wonder if
reflectivemaths 20:42
there might be software to help #ukedchat
@johnmclear office is still used in much of the real world. I teach
ianaddison 20:42 ppr/gdocs/prezi/activprimary, all ways of presenting! #ukedchat
#pri
john_at_muuua 20:42 @Crosbiei i see... er does it work for you? #ukedchat #sec
@jimbo9848 Totally agree - people need to be curious again and
eyebeams 20:42
focused and into all sorts of things #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:43 @ePaceonline It is, but only in its most limited sense. Generally
only research and presentation using MS office. #ukedchat
@Crosbiei Oh, that's very different. As long as each subject get a far
ICTmagic 20:43 share (ICT more and RE less!) then there's no problem. #ukedchat
#pri
@eyebeams I'm an ICT teacher and yes I have to be a self starter.
familysimpson 20:43 Also have to be persistent to the point of stalking sometimes!
#ukedchat
KempsterD 20:43 If ICT Leader is 'too' tech savvy, other teachers say he/she can do it
but people like me can't. Can often be countr prdctive. #ukedchat
@Ideas_Factory @GaryAveryICT Its part of ours but only to provd
cherrylkd 20:43 that teachers have reached certain standard. Lesson obs pick it up
#ukedchat
RT @colport: @Ideas_Factory @jimbo9848 Mmm, Becta missed
Ideas_Factory 20:43
many tricks, IMHO #ukedchat
@janwebb21 also in Win7, try holding Win key and pressing tab.
ianaddison 20:43 Like alt-tab but cooler. A child showed me, i showed everyone
#ukedchat #pri
@BobToms100 good point one size fits all is not best approach,
ePaceonline 20:43 finding right approach for your school with your resources is best
#ukedchat
@BobToms100 and make sure your Head sees and spreads the
kittyfisherp 20:43
word #ukedchat
One Question in my annual audit is..'do you feel confident to use
GaryAveryICT 20:43 ICT across the currculum;most tick no #ukedchat software skills are
fine
bilehs 20:43 I'm running a G&T workshop on Kodu next week in the hope that
the children will teach me some things as I'm stuck! #ukedchat
@mattbuxton10 @ianaddison #ukedchat We've booked TAs out for
Ideas_Factory 20:43 3 training days taken by SMT-all subjects suggested by TAs
themselves-ownership
@ianaddison @mattbuxton10 Absolutely the children are curious
eyebeams 20:43 and will have the enthusiasm and expertise to show others -
#ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:43 #ukedchat Office has its uses, dont knock it
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@ICTmagic Possibly, but currently ICT is losing out greatly.
Crosbiei 20:44 Something Im hoping to change with a new skills-based SoW.
#ukedchat
RT @ukedchat: Have you got a question you would like to see
Ideas_Factory 20:44 discussed during a future #ukedchat Session? Share your idea at
http://bit.ly/kd6c5x
Chn can take on board new ideas & change more than adults as
BobToms100 20:44 they've less inhibitions & experience 2 put em off. Adults=baby
steps #ukedchat
@Crosbiei Why do you think that is? Do your staff see ICT as a way
ICTmagic 20:44 of final drafting for presentation rather than real work? #ukedchat
#pri
john_at_muuua 20:44 @Crosbiei @ICTmagic that's weird. when we've done that it's
resulted in more ICT not less. how come? #ukedchat #sec
Cherise_Duxbury 20:44 #ukedchat #pri@ianaddison yes well said tm is brilliant!
ianaddison 20:44
@bilehs gimme a shout after #ukedchat, i have kodu help guides
#ukedchat This BECTA delivery model is more embedded than I
jimbo9848 20:44
thought... It has to go!
Ideas_Factory 20:44 @eyebeams #ukedchat Here!Here!
@MoodleMcKean Reckon it's more about developing a low
peterford 20:44 threshold, sharing culture as part of all school CPD - TM ethos
facilitates #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:44 @MattFothergill noooo I took people to Bett, they hated it. All
teachers should go to a teachmeet instead #ukedchat #pri
Main things I am getting out of #pri #ukedchat this evening is
colport 20:44 training up TA's and pupils in tech stuff, so they can teach the
teachers.
#ukedchat for example, you really can't learn Prezi by watching
reflectivemaths 20:44
someone... #sec
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@ePaceonline @BobToms100 #ukedchat in perf man teachers
cherrylkd 20:46 identify own tech needs and cpd leader has to provide it. Most is
done in-house
@rashush2 Im aiming for a broader range of ICT skills being
Crosbiei 20:46
included. #ukedchat
@ianaddison Fair point! Children would probably get more out of
MattFothergill 20:46
BETT anyway. #ukedchat
1 problem is there is SO many cool things to do the teachers lacking
smurfatik 20:46 ICT confidence feel overwhelmed. Needs leadership & support
#ukedchat
Why not put the Literacy Ldr in charge of ICT and reverse roles for a
KempsterD 20:46 term? Swp on a regular basis with others and see what hppns
#ukedchat
@john_at_muuua I guess it's based on the direction individual
ICTmagic 20:46 teacher wants to take, unless planning is rigid & top-down.
#ukedchat #pri
RT @MoodleMcKean: @ianaddison @garyaveryict we are currently
Ideas_Factory 20:46 carrying out staff ICT audit which will provide a mapped SD
programme to support needs #ukedchat
eyebeams 20:46 What about using ICT and social media to document special
"events" in a school - as glue to bind people together? #ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:46 #ukedchat ICT is a subject in need of a vision.
@john_at_muuua @ICTmagic I think, cos it comes in everythin, less
Crosbiei 20:46 effort made 2 ensure ICT included as its almost taken 4 granted.
#ukedchat
@Crosbiei #ukedchat #pri@ianaddison @xPunzx tm is the best cpd
Cherise_Duxbury 20:46
ever!
RT @KempsterD: If ICT Leader is 'too' tech savvy, other teachers say
jackcl 20:46 he/she can do it but people like me can't. Can often be countr
prdctive. #ukedchat
Possibly most effective thing Ive found to hook the non-confident;
mattbuxton10 20:46 show them how to get kids using SmartArt diagrams in PowerPoint
#ukedchat
@xPunzx check www.teachmeet.org.uk and speak to @TomSale,
ianaddison 20:47 he's northern and sometimes runs them in blackpool
area#ukedchat #pri
johnmclear 20:47 @chrisrat My assumption was #pri == primary :/ #ukedchat
@ICTmagic so why do teachers choose not to use tech when they
john_at_muuua 20:47
have the choice? #ukedchat #sec
@reflectivemaths #sec was asked today to put together prezi for a
familysimpson 20:47 YE team event - they are not in school again until due day?!
#ukedchat
colport 20:47 @chrisrat #pri = primary and #sec = secondary #ukedchat
ICTmagic 20:47 @Crosbiei Good luck with that. Make sure you show staff that ICT
can bring wonders to the learning experience #ukedchat #pri
So is there sthg wrong with admiring someone who's
BobToms100 20:47 knowledgeable (& innovative) w/tech - they lead, othrs'll follow!
@KempsterD #ukedchat
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janwebb21 20:47 @ianaddison my kids showed me all sorts with the win button that i
didnt know but they didnt show me that! #ukedchat
Apols for being thick but what does the #pri in the #ukedchat
chrisrat 20:47
mean?
Crosbiei 20:48 @ICTmagic U make ICT sound so magical! Just want staff to realise
how much it can motivate pupils. Particularly LA ones. #ukedchat
colport 20:49 @raff31 Mmm, don't I know it - But it's not about them, it is about
the futures our pupils have with technologies #ukedchat
@Crosbiei @rashush2 i'm replanning my whole ict curriculum to be
ianaddison 20:49 like a menu that teachers can pick and choose when they need to
#ukedchat
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@john_at_muuua Good question, which is really what this
ICTmagic 20:49 discussion is about - Sharing & showing joys of tech so more use it.
#ukedchat #pri
@Crosbiei @ICTmagic I find my tech focused English lessons are the
john_at_muuua 20:49
easiest for me and the kids. #ukedchat #sec
Last 10 minutes for #ukedchat this evening. What have you got
ukedchat 20:49
from the discussion this evening?
RT @MoodleMcKean: Try exposing staff to tech as users/learners in
familysimpson 20:50 meeting. Use GDocs to collaborate, Gforms to gain feedback &
Twitter for PLN etc #ukedchat
@cherrylkd Is that a Perf Man approach in your schl (v.good)? I've
BobToms100 20:50 never come across that (ICT needs in ur Perf Man) @ePaceonline
#ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:50 @ianaddison What @rashush2 said. #ukedchat
@rashush2 teachers should learn to touch type as part of the PGCE!
john_at_muuua 20:50
#ukedchat #sec
@john_at_muuua @ICTmagic Tech-based lessons cn B stressful if
Crosbiei 20:50 introducin somethin new. Kids soon become confident &
independent. #ukedchat
familysimpson 20:50 #ukedchat IMO ICT needs to be used to be useful: pointless CPD on
resources not installed / not available in school should be avoided!
@BobToms100 - only if starts simple but effective, don't try to get
mattbuxton10 20:50 non-ICT to run b4 walk, get balance between formal & informal
#ukedchat
@raff31 I completely take your point though #ukedchat Especially
colport 20:50
being within Sefton :-/
@ukedchat #ukedchat #pri be enthusiastic and motivated - and get
Cherise_Duxbury 20:50
the head involved and sharing the vision
eyebeams 20:50 @chrisrat @ianaddison @johnmclear No but you can teach people
to be more agile and less dependent in their use of tech #ukedchat
@chrisrat @ianaddison #ukedchat If we maintain that mindset we
johnmclear 20:51 will end up in a perma-taxed state w/ less creative kids. We have to
break it
john_at_muuua 20:51 @ICTmagic that's the traditional approach 'sharing the joys of tech',
but does it really work with technophobes? #ukedchat #sec
Crosbiei 20:51 @ICTmagic Thats what Im trying to do. Starting this yr but planning
on having a big push with it after summer. #ukedchat
#ukedchat #sec Make suggestions, "have you seen this?" or "I use
Darney_ictteach 20:51
this" type of approach. Maybe even start blogging.
They will give it a go if they can *see* how it aids learning/saves
misshbond 20:51
time. If not, no chance. #ukedchat
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RT @Crosbiei: @ianaddison What @rashush2 said. #ukedchat <
penny_patterson 20:51 give it 4 yrs and we'll have super typing speed becos of socila
networking
@BobToms100 Nothng at all but we all remain in our cmfrt zones.
KempsterD 20:51 Chllnge ourslvs on a reg basis (u will still hve tht othr knwldge)
#ukedchat
Cherise_Duxbury 20:51 @ianaddison #ukedchat #pri look forward to that
ICTmagic 20:51
@john_at_muuua Then everyone's a winner. :) #ukedchat #pri
“@JohnSmit123: Just downloaded azul for my iPad and voila
JOHNSAYERS 20:51 now I can view wmv files on it!!! Loving it!!!―rugby stars teching!
#ukedchat
#ukedchat #sec I'm taking away the fact I should be getting
reflectivemaths 20:51
students to support staff learn new tech
RT @john_at_muuua: @rashush2 teachers should learn to touch
MoodleMcKean 20:51
type as part of the PGCE! #ukedchat #sec
ianaddison 20:51 @rashush2 i managed to cover the whole ICT national curriculum in
6 lessons! it's easy. All plans will be public too #ukedchat #pri
@ianaddison #ukedchat thankfully 2 b teacher doesnt mean 2 b
janwebb21 20:51 expert in everything -just an expert at learning and empowering
others 2 learn
I think some older teachers (I said SOME!) probably teach better
rashush2 20:51
without tech #ukedchat
Joeleppington 20:51 #ukedchat make the tech easy to use and reliable for those
reluctant to use it - many don't use as worry about it crashing etc.
ICTmagic 20:51 @Crosbiei Then lead by example. When the other teachers see your
class wanting to learn, they'll want that too. #ukedchat #pri
The #ukedchat hour is always always always the quickest hour of
misshbond 20:52
my week!
@eyebeams @ianaddison @johnmclear entirely
chrisrat 20:52
agree...#ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:52 RT @misshbond: They will give it a go if they can *see* how it aids
learning/saves time. #ukedchat Isn't that human nature
@john_at_muuua Do you teach English to native speakers or as a
ICTmagic 20:52
second language? #ukedchat #pri
@Crosbiei @john_at_muuua @ICTmagic If yu DO stuff to kids you'll
eyebeams 20:52 alwys lose if you co-opt them in right way you'll gt thr interest
#ukedchat
#ukedchat could someone tell me a bit more about what happens
xPunzx 20:52
at #teachmeet?
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1sch i know emailed 'an idea of the week' to teachers. Problem is,
ianaddison 20:52
most don't check their email... #ukedchat #pri
RT @kristian: @KempsterD In other words, ICT lead has to be a
Crosbiei 20:52
good teacher, too. #ukedchat
rashush2 20:52 @penny_patterson but without any vowels! #ukedchat
#ukedchat Thing about tech is that since the advent of WEB 2.0
Ideas_Factory 20:52 even the seemingly complicated things are EASY-we need to
share/show this
#ukedchat how many £millions must have been wasted on useless
MattFothergill 20:52
ed tech? I've found cupboards full of it.
@Cherise_Duxbury @ukedchat good point and I think that the
ePaceonline 20:52
reluctant need to be encouraged and mentored
@KempsterD In other words, ICT lead has to be a good teacher,
kristian 20:52
too. #ukedchat
I'm all for spending a little to kickstart a trend..Buying own
kittyfisherp 20:52 imagingcam / software licence / USB microscope then showcasing
work #ukedchat
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Lots of gentle support and respect for what people do well works
rashush2 20:54
wonders in my experience #ukedchat
ICTmagic 20:54 @john_at_muuua Are people born technophobes? I'm not sure.
Would make an interesting discussion in itself. #ukedchat #pri
@xPunzx teachers share ideas in either 2min or 7min presentations.
ianaddison 20:54 When they're done, the next one comes up. simples. #ukedchat
#pri
johnmclear 20:55 @crosbiei To get reluctant teachers to use tech get them to watch a
presentation by the amazing @timrylands #ukedchat #pri
ianaddison 20:55 if you want to look at (or contribute to) a site full of help guides and
videos, check out www.undertenminutes.com #ukedchat
Staff need to see & understand the benefits & WANT to use tech b4
MoodleMcKean 20:55 being using it. TM model & Genius Bars could facilitate this
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:55 @john_at_muuua @bilehs @ianaddison lol!!! #ukedchat
@colport anyone who can touch type on an iphone has my ultimate
rashush2 20:55
respect! #ukedchat
RT @johnmclear: @chrisrat @ianaddison #ukedchat If we maintain
chrisrat 20:55 that mindset we will end up in a perma-taxed state w/ less creative
kids. We have to break it
last few tweets...if you want to suggest a topic (doesn't have to be
ianaddison 20:55
about tech!) http://bit.ly/kd6c5x #ukedchat
#ukedchat the thing with tech is that it scares people so much they
TheMrB 20:55 don't even want to explore it. And when it goes wrong they can't fix
it.
@ICTmagic @john_at_muuua Every technophobe I know knows
eyebeams 20:55
how to book a holiday on the web #ukedchat
#ukedchat #sec we don't _need_ tech but it is often awesome to
reflectivemaths 20:55
use. Who wouldn't want awesome?
I hve to go sn. 1 starting point - find out what techrs comps and
KempsterD 20:55 confs are. U need a bnchmrk. I use 1 with my schls happy to shre
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:55 @bilehs @ianaddison absolutely true #ukedchat
@raff31 If it engages the children really well, then no need to
colport 20:55
change, I agree #ukedchat
RT @eyebeams: Get the head and senior management to use social
johnpopham 20:55 media and go to teachmeets #ukedchat < good luck with that one ;-
)
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Crosbiei 20:55 If you could suggest one way of getting reluctant teachers to use
tech in their lessons, what would it be? #ukedchat #pri
BobToms100 20:56 @KempsterD I'm with you there. Challenge oneself often, but don't
push yourself over the edge too often. Reflect often too #ukedchat
@reflectivemaths agreed... Why is education so slow to react to
kittyfisherp 20:56
what the job market is looking for? #ukedchat
@jimbo9848 Not always! Many factors can get in the way ie.
misshbond 20:56
Laziness, stress, fear etc. #ukedchat
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@janwebb21 @colport @john_at_muuua @rashush2 On second
MoodleMcKean 20:57 thoughts now Chrome does instant speech to text.....why type at all
#ukedchat
#ukedchat @themrb Agreed. Not being able to fix tech is v
reflectivemaths 20:57
annoying. #sec
RT @jamesclay: @Crosbiei tech works best when it solves
Crosbiei 20:57
problems. #ukedchat
“@ianaddison: 1sch i know emailed 'an idea of the week' to
JOHNSAYERS 20:57 teachers. Problem is, most don't check their email... #ukedchat I
have2go round:(
RT @ICTmagic: @john_at_muuua Are people born technophobes?
misshbond 20:57 I'm not sure. Would make an interesting discussion in itself.
#ukedchat #pri
jamesclay 20:57
@Crosbiei tech works best when it solves problems. #ukedchat
RT @misshbond: @jimbo9848 Not always! Many factors can get in
jimbo9848 20:57 the way ie. Laziness, stress, fear etc. #ukedchat You can't make a
horse drink
RT @janwebb21: @ianaddison #ukedchat thankfully 2 b teacher
creativetallis 20:57 doesnt mean 2 b expert in everything -just an expert at learning and
empowering others 2 learn
Joeleppington 20:58 @kittyfisherp agreed! Still living in a world where teaching joined
handwriting is seen as more important than touch typing #ukedchat
RT @eyebeams: Get the head and senior management to use social
BobToms100 20:58
media and go to teachmeets #ukedchat
RT @eyebeams: Get the head and senior management to use social
janwebb21 20:58
media and go to teachmeets #ukedchat
#ukedchat I have a slot every week in staff briefing(1st thing in
Ideas_Factory 20:58 morn)I signpost a web2 resource & staff use it in class the following
wk
jimbo9848 20:58 #ukedchat ICT used to teach programming in BASIC :)
#Sazneo smarter group communication #edtech20 #edtools |
web20education 20:58 @scoopit http://t.co/dAIKrgw #elearning #edreform #edchat
#ukedchat #elemchat #elt
RT @ICTmagic: @john_at_muuua Are people born technophobes?
janwebb21 20:58 I'm not sure. Would make an interesting discussion in itself.
#ukedchat #pri
rashush2 20:58
Good enough tech support makes all the difference #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:58 @eyebeams @ICTmagic lol! true story! #ukedchat #sec
BobToms100 20:58 One thing that's not been mentioned in tonight's #ukedchat (tho
has been before), old-aged staff who are unwilling to do differently
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get everyone to share something (ICTish) they have used
bilehs 20:58 successfully in class, at beginning of staff meeting -learning
communities #ukedchat
rashush2 20:58
@MoodleMcKean Now you're talking - but does it work? #ukedchat
RT @GaryAveryICT: RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat since the advent
janwebb21 20:58 of WEB 2.0 even the seemingly complicated things are EASY-we
need to share/show this: agreed!!
RT @GaryAveryICT: Here's an idea, what about a screen in the
familysimpson 20:58 staffroom streaming finished work!! #ukedchat <- and the
reception area!
MattFothergill 20:58 @Crosbiei a cattle prod! #ukedchat
craftyslh 20:59 snap RT @ianaddison: 1sch i know emailed 'an idea of the week' to
teachers. Problem is, most don't check their email... #ukedchat #pri
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RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat I have a slot every week in staff
mooshtang 20:59 briefing(1st thing in morn)I signpost a web2 resource & staff use it
in class the following wk
@Crosbiei small steps with some teachers make huge differences
nellmog 20:59 encourage small buyin and most think differently over time
#ukedchat
Please join @dughall next week at 8pm for #ukedchat again. His
ukedchat 21:00
questions will be polled as soon as they can :-)
@john_at_muuua #ukedchat Oi!Stop moving the goal posts-you'll
Ideas_Factory 21:00
be telling there's an iPhone 4 & an iPad 2 next...
Wow, where did that hour go? Many thanks to @ianaddison for
ukedchat 21:00 hosting #ukedchat this week. His summary will be up in the next
24/48 hours
Wow, that went quick.... Thanks for the discussion everyone.. Really
GaryAveryICT 21:00
enjoyed it. #ukedchat
misshbond 21:00 @jimbo9848 Indeed not! #ukedchat
Cherise_Duxbury 21:00 @ianaddison #ukedchat #pri top bananas thanks for that!
@BobToms100 Nah, my technophobe prints off the forms first so
rashush2 21:00
she can work out how to fill them in! #ukedchat
@eyebeams @ictmagic @john_at_muuua it's more about finding a
janwebb21 21:00 use that is relevant in their context - learning more imp. than tool
#ukedchat
jimbo9848 21:00 #ukedchat Thanks all, really interesting.
@ianaddison and apps4class.wikispaces.com and innovative teach
janwebb21 21:01
you tube channel #ukedchat
colport 21:01 @KempsterD A really good point #ukedchat
@bilehs #ukedchat Now that's an idea I'll be taking back to school
cherrylkd 21:01
on Tues. Though it might scare a few teachers
colport 21:01 @jamesclay Great minds clearly think alike ;-) #ukedchat
Why do most peeps go into tching? Bcause they want to help chldrn
KempsterD 21:01 learn. Show them something that does that well - they're sold
#ukedchat
@bilehs - very effective, coz others see what colleagues have done
mattbuxton10 21:01 & adapt to own lessons/subjects; great ideas breed great ideas!
#ukedchat
quick hour there! enjoy the day off everyone. thanks for some great
john_at_muuua 21:01
thoughts! #ukedchat #sec
@colport #ukedchat Oaklands College did just that
jamesclay 21:01
http://is.gd/js7EC9 #fe
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Only way to 'turn' non-techies is to
ShirleyGascoyne 21:02 give them no choice by integrating it into all school life & insisting
they use it regularly!
colport 21:02 The #ukedchat archive will commence at 9.15 this evening. Visit the
wiki site at http://bit.ly/bhY9Zh or the blog at http://bit.ly/92NqSU
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ukedchat 21:02 The #ukedchat archive will commence at 9.15 this evening. Visit the
wiki site at http://bit.ly/bhY9Zh or the blog at http://bit.ly/92NqSU
kittyfisherp 21:02 @Joeleppington can teachers think of ten reasons why students
need that when they leave school? Yet 100's for typing #ukedchat
PICTR_Blog 21:02 @ianaddison #pri #ukedchat Good work once again!
@rashush2 Haha. That'll be an interactive Word or PDF that they
BobToms100 21:02
print off then! #notecofriendly #ukedchat
@familysimpson @moodlemckean @john_at_muuua @rashush2
janwebb21 21:03
absolutely! #ukedchat
MattFothergill 21:03 My first #ukedchat I enjoyed it. Well done.
@janwebb21 @moodlemckean @john_at_muuua @rashush2
familysimpson 21:03
plenty! but what a test! #ukedchat
Mr_D_Cheng 21:03 always get a host of ideas every thursday #ukedchat
@jimbo9848 #ukedchat Lol!Most staff need BASIC ict training now!
Ideas_Factory 21:03
;^)
@peterford Yes this is key, fact that there's a time limit really
ePaceonline 21:03 helps.Been in so many staff meetings that go on and on and on
#ukedchat
@MattFothergill Point people to the wiki site at
eyebeams 21:04 http://bit.ly/bhY9Zh or the blog at http://bit.ly/92NqSU - come
again :) #ukedchat
Pimping #purposedpsi in #ukedchat - join us on Saturday in
dajbelshaw 21:04
Sheffield! http://bit.ly/purposedpsi :-)
RT @poppletny: "How would you use laptops in your classroom
colport 21:04 every day?" (via Karen C. Seddon) http://popplet.com/app/#/25528
#ukedchat
RT @Joeleppington: @kittyfisherp agreed! Still living in a world
ICTmagic 21:04 where teaching joined handwriting is seen as more important than
touch typing #ukedchat
Those w/ sales exp'll know what 'overcoming objections' all about;
BobToms100 21:04 best thing to overcome objections's simple answr 2their problem
#ukedchat
janwebb21 21:04
Must go thanks for a great #ukedchat sorry to leave you all to it!!!!
RT @nellmog: @Crosbiei small steps with some teachers make
janwebb21 21:05 huge differences encourage small buyin and most think differently
over time #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:05 RT @ukedchat: Please join @dughall next week at 8pm for
#ukedchat again. His questions will be polled as soon as they can :-)
I need to go and sort out a little issue of 3,500 video files and allied
eyebeams 21:05
resources - will blog tonight #ukedchat
RT @dajbelshaw: Pimping #purposedpsi in #ukedchat - join us on
Eingang 21:05
Saturday in Sheffield! http://bit.ly/purposedpsi :-)
cherrylkd 21:05 @BobToms100 #ukedchat yes it is. I'm cpd lead so I pull all training
req together and request training time. Works v well
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chrisrat 21:05 RT @janwebb21: @ianaddison and apps4class.wikispaces.com and
innovative teach you tube channel #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:05 @ianaddison #ukedchat Cheers Ian great chat & brill discussion-
they seem to be getting better & better-quality of participants fab
LOL, or shld tht b LL RT @rashush2: @penny_patterson but without
penny_patterson 21:06
any vowels! #ukedchat
RT @john_at_muuua: quick hour there! enjoy the day off everyone.
janwebb21 21:06
thanks for some great thoughts! #ukedchat #sec
RT @dajbelshaw: Pimping #purposedpsi in #ukedchat - join us on
TheHeadsOffice 21:06
Saturday in Sheffield! http://bit.ly/purposedpsi :-)
via @colport: ukedchat continued very successfully last summer,
john_at_muuua 21:06 much to my surprise. Will be talking about ukedchat future in a few
weeks :-
Students Teaching Tutors how to use Technology - Case Study
MoodleMcKean 21:06 Oaklands College via @jamesclay http://bit.ly/jK6E71 #ukedchat
#edchat #edtech
RT @dajbelshaw: Pimping #purposedpsi in #ukedchat - join us on
Ideas_Factory 21:07
Saturday in Sheffield! http://bit.ly/purposedpsi :-)
RT @ianaddison: if you want to look at (or contribute to) a site full
TheHeadsOffice 21:07 of help guides and videos, check out www.undertenminutes.com
#ukedchat
RT @acmcdonaldgp: #ukedchat tech as a tool has significant
colport 21:07 potential to support the ed'n transformation. Ver… (cont)
http://deck.ly/~kEzdR
@ianaddison Thanks as always. Great learning going on here.
cherrylkd 21:07
#ukedchat
As #ukedchat just finished wanted to plug TeachMeet Aberdeen,
familysimpson 21:07 Weds 11th May - will be streamed online - http://bit.ly/tmabdn
#tmabdn
Sorry, have to go, Royal wedding cake to make ;-) Lots of ideas.
KempsterD 21:07 Thnks for the chats. Gr8 CPD for me. C u next time. Thnx Ian too
#ukedchat
RT @KempsterD: Why do most peeps go into tching? Bcause they
mooshtang 21:08 want to help chldrn learn. Show them something that does that
well - they're sold #ukedchat
@GaryAveryICT Some schls av monitor in reception shwing photos
BobToms100 21:10 of schl events (& inevitable schl mktg), beter 2 show pupils' blogs
#ukedchat
@xPunzx There's a TM in Notts somewhere 20th May. TM are fab!
TheHeadsOffice 21:11
@ianaddison #ukedchat
RT @familysimpson: As #ukedchat just finished wanted to plug
Ideas_Factory 21:11 TeachMeet Aberdeen, Weds 11th May - will be streamed online -
http://bit.ly/tmabdn #tmabdn
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