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LORD HILL- NORTON GCB
1. Lo r d Hil l - No r to nh as a l o ng s tand ing inter es tin u nid entif ied
f l ying o b j ects and in
J anu ar y 2001 h e tab l ed tenPQs o nth e s u b j ecto f a w el l kno w n
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Ap r il , th e Peer d is ag r ees w ith th e Minis ter s
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o f th e ev ent. Th es e d o cu m ents s h o w a cl ear ch aino f ev ents w h ich h av e al r ead y b een
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r eq u es t, Lo r d
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Mi ni s t r y of De f e nc e .
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i n t er es t i n u n i d en t i f i ed
f l y i n g
o b j ect s a n d t h i s y ea r h e h a s t a b l ed t en PQs a n d w r i t t en t w o PEs
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s i g h t i n g i n Ren d l es h a m Fo r es t , Su f f o l k i n Decem b er
1 9 8 0.
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w h i ch , i t i s cl a i m ed , w a s m a d e a t t h e t i m e o f t h e Ren d l es h a m Fo r es t i n ci d en t a n d co n t a i n s t h e
v o i ce o f Li eu t en a n t Co l o n el Ha l t , t h e Dep u t y Ba s e Co m m a n d er a t RAF W o o d b r i d g e. He
a s ked t h a t t h e Mi n i s t er l i s t en t o t h e r eco r d i n g . W e co n cl u d ed t h a t s h o u l d t h e Mi n i s t er n o t
a g r ee t o h i s r eq u es t , Lo r d Hi l l - No r t o n w o u l d a ccu s e t h e Dep a r t m en t o f n o t b ei n g o p en - m i n d ed
a n d i n h er
r ep l y ,
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3 . In h i s l et t er o f 2 4
Ma y ,
t h e Peer en cl o s ed t h e co m p a ct d i s c a n d s o m e
p h o t o g r a p h s
w h i ch h e s a i d a r e p a r t o f a n " en o r m o u s m a s s o f n ew ev i d en ce" . He a s ked f o r a n i n v es t i g a t i o n
t o b e o p en ed i n t o t h es e ev en t s . DAS s t a f f h a v e l i s t en ed t o t h e r eco r d i n g s ev er a l t i m es a n d
w h i l e i t p r o v i d es a m o r e g r a p h i c a cco u n t o f ev en t s d es cr i b ed i n a m em o r a n d u m w r i t t en
b y
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(co p y a t t a ch ed ) , w e d o n o t b el i ev e t h a t i t
co n s t i t u t es cl ea r ev i d en ce t h a t t h e UK Ai r Def en ce Reg i o n w a s co m p r o m i s ed . It i s n o w o v er
t w en t y y ea r s s i n ce t h es e ev en t s a r e r ep o r t ed t o h a v e t a ken p l a ce a n d w e b el i ev e i t w o u l d n o t b e
a p p r o p r i a t e t o co m m i t MOD r es o u r ces t o f u r t h er en q u i r i es w h i ch a r e u n l i kel y t o p r o d u ce a n y
o t h er co n cl u s i o n t h a n t h a t w h i ch w a s m a d e a t t h e t i m e; n a m el y t h a t n o t h i n g o ccu r r ed w h i ch
w a s o f d ef en ce co n cer n .
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p r i s o n i s l o ca t ed i n t h e v i ci n i t y o f Ren d Ie s h a m Fo r es t a n d s o m e o f t h o s e w h o h a v e w r i t t en
a b o u t t h es e ev en t s h a v e cl a i m ed t h a t t h e p r i s o n w a s ev a cu a t ed . A p r ev i o u s PQ a n s w er f r o m t h e
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t h o s e wh o h a v e m a d e a s t u d y o f t h e s e m a t t e r s , I d o n o t b e l i e v e i t o f f e r s
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wa s n o t t h e c a s e a n d t h a t i s t h e k e y i s s u e f o r u s i n
a n y i n v e s t i g a t i o n o f r e p o r t e d UFO
s i g h t i n g s . Gi v e n t h i s , a n d t h e l e n g t h o f t i m e t h a t h a s e l a p s e d , I d o n o t b e l i e v e i t
wo u l d n o w b e a p p r o p r i a t e t o c o m m i t MOD r e s o u r c e s t o a n y f u r t h e r e n q u i r i e s t h a t
wo u l d b e u n l i k e l y t o b e p r o d u c t i v e .
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t h e s e m a t t e r s . In t h e c o u r s e o f t h i s r e v i e w t h e y wi l l c o n s u l t t h e Ho m e Of f i c e ,
a l t h o u g h i t s e e m s u n l i k e l y t h a t t h e y a r e h o l d i n g a n y p a p e r s o f d e f e n c e i n t e r e s t .
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a ppe a r a n c e
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le g s .
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t h e
o b je c t , it m a n e u v e r e d
t h r o u g h t h e t r e e s
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pr e s s io n s a n d n e a r t h e c e n t e r o f t h e
t r ia n g le fo r m e d
b y t h e
de pr e s s io n s .
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r e a din g s o n t h e s ide o f t h e t r e e
t o wa r d t h e
de pr e s s io n s .
3.
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lig h t v ia s s e e n t h r o u g h t h e t l^e e s .
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t h e r e a ft e r , t h r e e s t a r - lik e
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in t h e s k y , -
t wo o b je c t s t o t h e n o r t h a n d o n e t o t h e s o u t h , a ll o f wh ic h
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o ff t h e h o r izo n .
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m o v e m e n t s a n d
dis pla y e d r e d, g r e e n a n d
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n o r t h
a ppe a r e d . t o b e e lt ipt ic a l
t h r o u g h a n 8 - 12
po we r le n s .
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s k y
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t h e s o u t h wa s v is ib le fo r t wo o r t h r e e
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a s t r e a m o f
lig h t fr o m t im e t o t im e .
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t h e r em a i ni ng sy st em s a r e a ssessed a nd r ec t i f i c a t i o n wo r k
o n t h em c a st ed .
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r ef l ec t s o nl y t h e c o st o f wo r k
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no t i nc l u d e ex p end i t u r e wh i c h
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c o m m i t t ed b u t no t y et p a i d .
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b y S er v i c e. T h e c o st s
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f a st j et a i r c r ew a r e a l l o c a t ed , t o ( a ) T o r na d o GR,
( b ) T o r na d o F3 , ( c ) J a g u a r a nd
( d ) H a r r i er . [ 3 7 9 3 4 ]
Dr . Rei d : T h e i nf o r m a t i o n r eq u est ed , a s a t 3 Ap r i l
1 9 9 8 , i s set o u t b el o w:
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As a t 3 Ap r i l 1 9 9 8
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Mr . Al a sd a i r Mo r g a n: T o a sk t h e S ec r et a r y o f S t a t e
f o r Def enc e h o w
( 1 )
h o w m a ny d ep l et ed u r a ni u m sh el l s
h a v e b een f i r ed a t t h e MO D/DERA b a se a t Du nd r enna n,
K i r kc u d b r i g h t sh i r e, i n ea c h o f t h e y ea r s si nc e su c h f i r i ng
st a r t ed ;
[ 3 7 6 1 1 ]
( 2) h o w m a ny o f t h e d ep l et ed u r a ni u m sh el l s f i r ed a t
t h e MO D/DERA b a se a t Du nd r enna n, K i r kc u d b r i g h t sh i r e,
h a v e su b seq u ent l y b een r ec o v er ed . [ 3 7 6 ] 2]
Mr . S p eH a r : T h i s i s a m a t t er f o r t h e C h i ef Ex ec u t i v e
o f t h e Def enc e Ev a l u a t i o n a nd Resea r c h Ag enc y ( DERA) .
I h a v e a sked t h e C h i ef Ex ec u t i v e t o wr i t e t o t h e h o n.
Mem b er .
Let t er f r o m J o h n C h i sh o l m t v Mr . Al a sd a i r Mo r g a n,
d a t ed 7 Ap r i l ] 9 9 8 :
. As C h i ef Ex ec u t i v e o f t h e Def enc e Ev a l u a t i o n a nd Resea r c h
Ag enc y I h a v e b een a sked t o r ep l y t o y o u r q u est i o ns t o t h e S ec r et a r y
o f S t a t e f o r Def enc e a b o u t d ep l et ed u r a ni u m sh el l s a t
K i r kc u d b r i g h t sh i r e.
T h e nu m b er o f d ep l et ed u r a ni u m r o u nd s f i r ed a t t h e K i r kc u d b r i g h t
r a ng e ea c h y ea r si nc e t h e st a r t o f t h e C H ARM p r o g r a m m e a r e a s
f o l l o ws:
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1 9 8 3
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1 9 8 5
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1 9 8 7
1 9 8 8
9
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1 9 9 0
1 9 9 1
1 9 9 2
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1 9 9 4
1 9 9 5
1 9 9 6
1 9 9 7
1 9 9 8
4 3 4
7 9 5
6 6 6
7 8 1
9 8 2
4 7 2
28 0
1 4 7
7 4 9
1 2
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6 . 25 5
Du r i ng t h i s p er i o d f o u r o f t h e C H ARM p enet r a t o r s f i r ed
h a v e
b een r ec o v er ed .
I h o p e t h i s i nf o r m a t i o n i s u sef u l .
29 4
27 4
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H el en J a c kso n: T o a sk t h e S ec r et a r y o f S t a t e f o r
Def enc e, p u r su a nt t o h i s a nswer s o f 3 0 Ma r c h
1 9 9 8 .
O f f i c i a l Rep o r t , c o l u m n 4 ] 4 , i f t h e m i l i t a r y ex er c i ses wer e
c a r r i ed o u t o v er t h e S h ef f i el d a r ea ; wh a t
r eg u l a t i o ns
g o v er n ( a ) m i l i t a r y a nd ( b ) o t h er a i r c r a f t b r ea ki n! ! t h e
so u nd b a r r i er ; a nd i f t h e so ni c b o o m s d et ec t ed
b y
Ed i nb u r g h Uni v er si t y S ei sm o l o g y Uni t a b o v e S h ef f i el d ,
o n 24 Ma r c h 1 9 9 7 wer e t h e r esu l t o f a i r c r a f t b r ea ki ng t h e
so u nd b a r r i er .
[ 3 7 9 9 1
J
Mr . S p eH a r : It i s no t p o ssi b l e, t wel v e m o nt h s a f t er t h e
d a t e i n q u est i o n. t o st a t e p r ec i sel y wh er e m i l i t a r y a i r c r a f t
a c t i v i t y wa s b ei ng c a r r i ed o u t . Rec o r d s kep t sh o w o nl y
t h a t a i r c r a f t wer e b o o ked t o
c a r r y
o u t l o w f l y i ng o v er t h e
Pea k Di sf r i c t b et ween 203 0 a nd 2 I 07 h o u r s l o c a l t i m e o n
t h e ev eni ng o f 24 Ma r c h 1 9 9 7 . No l o w l ev el f l y i ng i s
p er m i t t ed o v er t h e S h ef f i el d u r b a n a r ea , o r a ny
o t h er
m a j o r c o nu r b a t i o n. Rec o r d s o f f l y i ng a t m ed i u m l ev el -
b et ween 2, 000 a nd 24 , 000 f eet - a r e no t m a i nt a i ned so i t
i s p o ssi b l e t h a t t h er e wer e a i r c r a f t i n t h e a r ea a t m ed i u m
l ev e1 .
T h e r eg u l a t i o ns g o v er ni ng m i l i t a r y a i r c r a f t f l y i ng
a t
su p er so ni c sp eed s a r e c o nt a i ned i n t h e J o i nt S er v i c e
Pu b l i c a t i o n ent i t l ed Mi l i t a r y Fl y i ng
Reg u l a t i o ns , a n
ex t r a c t o f wh i c h wa s p r o v i d ed i n t h e a nswer I g a v e
h er
o n 1 Ap r i l 1 9 9 8 , O f f i c i a l Rep o r t , c o l u m ns 5 4 7 - 4 8 .
T h e
r eg u l a t i o ns wh i c h
a p p l y
t o c i v i l a v i a t i o n a r e a m a t t er
f o r
m y h o n. Fr i end t h e Pa r l i a m ent a r y Und er - S ec r et a r y
o f
S t a t e f o r t h e Env i r o nm ent , T r a nsp o r t a nd t h e Reg i o ns.
As f o r t h e so ni c ev ent d et ec t ed b y
t h e
B r i t i sh
Geo l o g i c a l S u r v ey a t Ed i nb u r g h Uni v er si t y , I r ef er m y
h o n. Fr i end t o t h e a nswer I g a v e h er o n 3 0 Ma r c h
1 9 9 8 .
O f f i c i a l Rep o r t , c o l u m ns 4 ] 4 - ] 5 .
S O C IAL S EC URIT Y
Inc a p a c i t y B enef i t
Mr . C u m m i ng s: T o a sk t h e S ec r et a r y
o f
S t a t e
f o r
S o c i a l S ec u r i t y h o w m a ny c l a i m a nt s o f i nc a p a c i t y
b enef i t
a r e su f f er i ng f r o m p neu m o c o ni o si s a nd em p h y sem a
i n
t h e
a r ea s c o v er ed
b y t h e S ea h a m a nd Pet er l ee
B enef i t S
Ag enc y o f f i c es. .
[ 3 7 9 09 J
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MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
TUESDAY 7 APRIL 1998
MRS HELEN JACKSON (LABOUR)(SHEFFIELD. HILLSBOROUGH)
10
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To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, pursuant to his
Answers of 30th March, Official Report, column 414, if the
military exercises were carried out over the Sheffield area; what
regulations govern (a)
military and
(b)
other aircraft breaking
the sound barrier; and if the sonic booms detected
by Edinburgh
University Seismology unit above Sheffield, on 24th March 1997
were the result of aircraft breaking the sound barrier. [37 991]
MR SPELLAR
f;
It is not possible, twelve months after the date in question, to
state precisely where military aircraft activity was being
carried out. Records kept show only that aircraft were booked to
carry out low flying over the Peak District between 2030 and 2107
hours local time on the evening of 24 March 1997 . No low level
flying
is permitted over the Sheffield urban area, or any other
major
conurbation. Records of flying
at medium level
-
between
2, 000 and 24, 000 ft
~
are not maintained so it is possible that
there were aircraft in the area at medium level.
,

ee,
The regulat ons govern ng
m l tary a rcraft fly ng at superson c
speeds are contained n the Jo nt Serv ce publ cat on ent tled
M
l tary Fly ng Regulat
ons
,
an extract of wh ch was prov ded
n the answer I gave her on 1 Apr l 1 998 (Off c al Report, Cols
547-548). The regulat ons wh ch
apply
to c v l av at on are a
m atter for m y
hon Fr end the parl am entary Under-Secretary of
State for the Environm ent, Transport and the Reg ons.
As for the son c event detected
by
the Br t sh Geolog cal Survey
at Ed nburgh Un vers
ty,
I refer
m y
hon Fr end to the answer I
gave her on 30 March 1 998 (Off c al Report, Col 41 4).
Wednesday 7 Apr l 1 998 25481
.
The regulations
go~ erning military aircraft
flying at supersonic
speeds are contained in the Joint Service Publication entitled
Military
Flying Regulations, an extract of which was provided
in the answer I gave her on 1 April 1 998 (Official
Report, Cols
547-548). The regulations which
apply
to civil aviation are a
matter for
my
hon Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of
State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions.
T
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As for the ~ ismQ 1 9~ ioal a~ L ivlty detected
by
the British
Geological Survey at
Edi~ urgh University, I refer
my
hon Friend
to the answer I gave her on 30 March 1 998 (Official Report, Col
. . ,.
41 4) .
April 1 998 2548I
.
BACKGROUND NOTE:
Mrs Jackson tabled five PQs for answer on 30th March along with
another for answer on 1 April (copies attached). All referred to
an incident which occurred over the Peak District on 24 March
1 997. The parts of the question referring to
flying regulations
and the Edingburgh Seismology unit were both asked
in these
previous questions.
The incident in question remains unresolved. At around 2200hrs on
24 March 1 997 a number of witnesses located in and around the
Peak District reported hearing an aeroplane in trouble followed
by a crash. Police and RAF Search and Rescue helicopters were
scrambled and conducted a thorough search of the area but found
no signs of a crash. No civil or military aircraft were reported
missing for that day. Since the event a number of theories have
emerged, including one that the
crash
heard
by the witnesses
may have been a sonic boom generated
by
an aircraft.
We do not know whether military aircraft were operating over
Sheffield on the evening in question. An investigation now would
be impracticable given the passage of time. The only centrally
maintained indication of activity are the low
flying booking
sheets and these show that Tornados from RAF Marham were booked
to fly
within Night Low Flying Sector 3A between 2030 and 21 07
hours local time on 24 March 1 997; over an hour before the
alleged incident took place. Although low flying military
aircraft are not permitted to overfly towns and cities, it is
possible that the Tornados (or other military aircraft) may have
flown over Sheffield at medium level.
In accordance with Flying Regulations, squadrons report any
inadvertent sonic events to Headquarters Military Air Traffic
Organisation
(HQ MATO). They can confirm that no inadvertent
sonic events were logged with them for the evening of 24 March
1 997. It is possible, however, that an aircraft may have
generated a sonic event of which the pilot was unaware.
"
,
.
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ANSWER:
I t is not possible, twelve months after the date in question,
to state precisely where military aircraft activity was being
carried out. Records kept show only that aircraft were booked
to carry out low flying
over the Peak District between 2030
and 2107 hours local time on the evening of 24 March 1997. No
low level flying is permitted over the Sheffield urban area,
or any other major conurbation. Records of flying at medium
level
-
between 2, 000 and 24, 000 ft
-
are not maintained so it
is possible that there were aircraft in the area at medium
level.
The regulations governing military aircraft
flying at
supersonic speeds are contained in the Joint Service
Publication entitled Military
Flying Regulations , an extract
of which was provided in the answer I gave on 1 April (column
547/548). The regulations which
apply
to civil aviation are a
matter for
my
honourable friend the Parliamentary Under-
Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the
Regions.
As for the seismological activity detected
by
the British
Geological Survey at Edingburgh University, I refer
my
honourable friend to the answer I provided to her on 30 March
(column 414).
BACKGROUND NOTE:
Mrs Jackson tabled five PQs for answer on 30th March along
with another for answer on 1 April (copies attached). All
referred to an incident which occurred over the Peak District
on 24 March 1997. The parts of the question referring to
flying regulations and the Edingburgh Seismology Unit were
both asked in these previous questions.
The incident in question remains unresolved. At around 2200hrs
on 24 March 1997 a number of witnesses located in and around
the Peak District reported hearing an aeroplane in trouble
followed
by
a crash. Police and RAF Search and Rescue
helicopters were scrambled and conducted a thorough search of
the area but found no signs of a crash. No civil or military
aircraft were reported missing for that day. Since the event a
number of theories have emerged, including one that the
crash
heard
by
the witnesses may have been a sonic boom
generated by
an aircraft.
We do not know whether military aircraft were operating over
Sheffield on the evening in question. An investigation now
would be impracticable given the passage of time. The only
centrally maintained indication of activity are the low
flying
booking sheets and these show that Tornados from RAF Marham
were booked to fly within Night Low Flying Sector 3A between
2030 and 2107 hours local time on 24 March 1997; over an hour
before the alleged incident took place. Although low
flying
military aircraft are not permitted to overfly towns and
cities, it is possible that the Tornados (or other military
aircraft) may have flown over Sheffield at medium level.
.
In accordance with Flying Regulations, squadrons report any
inadvertent sonic events to Headquarters Military Air Traffic
Organisation (HQ MATO). They can confirm that no inadvertent
sonic events were logged with them for the evening of 24 March
1997. It is possible, however, that an aircraft
may have
generated a sonic ev~ nt of which the pilot was unaware.
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speeds are contained in the Joint Service Publication entitled
Military
Flying Regulations, an extract of which was provided
in the answer 1 gave her on 1 April 1 998 (Official
Report, Cols
547-548). The regulations which
apply
to civil aviation are a
matter for
my
hon Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of
State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions.
As for the seismological activity detected
by the British
Geological Survey at Edingburgh University, 1 refer
my
hon Friend
to the answer 1 gave her on 30 March 1 998 (Official Report, Col
41 4).
April 1 998 25481
"
.
BACKGROUND NOTE:
Mrs Jackson tabled five PQs for answer on 30th March along with
another for answer on 1 April (copies attached). All referred to
an incident which occurred over the Peak District on 24 March

1 997. " The parts of the question referring to
flying regulations
andthe
Edingburgh Seismology Unit were both asked in these
previous questions.
The incident in question remains unresolved. At around 2200hrs on
24 March 1 997 a number of witnesses located in and around the
Peak District reported hearing an aeroplane in trouble followed
by
a crash. Police and RAF Search and Rescue helicopters were
scrambled and conducted a thorough search of the area but found
no signs of a crash. No civil or military aircraft were reported
missing for that day. Since the event a number of theories have
emerged, including one that the
crash
heard
by the witnesses
may have been a sonic boom generated by
an aircraft.

We do not know whether military aircraft were
operating over
Sheffield on the evening in question. An investigation now would
be impracticable given the passage of time. The only centrally
maintained indication of activity are the low
flying booking
sheets and these show that Tornados from RAF Marham were booked
to fly within Night Low Flying Sector 3A between 2030 and 21 07
hours local time on 24 March 1 997; over an hour before the
alleged incident took place. Although low flying military
aircraft are not permitted to overfly towns and cities, it is
possible that the Tornados (or other military aircraft) may have
flown over Sheffield at medium level.
In accordance with Flying Regulations, squadrons report any
inadvertent sonic events to Headquarters Military Air Traffic
Organisation (HQ MATO). They can confirm that no inadvertent
sonic events were logged with them for the evening of 24 March
1 997. It is possible, however, that an aircraft may have
generated a sonic event of which the pilot was unaware.
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I
ANSWER:
I t is not possible, twelve months af ter the date in question,.
to state precisely where military aircraf t activity was being
carried out. Records kept show only that air raf t were booked
to carry out low
f lying over the Peak District between 2030
and 2107 hours local time on the evening of 24 March 1997. No
low level f lying is permitted over the Shef f ield urban area,
or any other major conurbation. Records of
f lying at medium
level
-
between 2,000 and 24,000 f t
-
,are not maintained so it
is possible that there were aircraf t in the area at medium
level.
The regulations governing military aircraf t
f lying at
supersonic speeds are contained in the Joint Service
Publication entitled Military
Flying Regulations, an extract
of which was provided in the answer I gave on 1 April (column
547/548). The regulations which
apply
to civil aviation are a
matter f or
my
honourable f riend the Parliamentary Under-
Secretary of State f or the Environment, Transport and the
Regions.
As f or the seismological activity detected
by the British
Geological Survey at Edingburgh University, I ref er
my
honourable f riend to the answer I provided to her on 30 March
(column 414).
BACKGROUND NOTE:
Mrs Jackson tabled f ive PQs f or answer on 30th March along
with another f or answer on 1 April (copies attached). All
ref erred to an incident which occurred over the Peak District
on 24 March 1997. The parts of the question ref erring to
f lying regulations and the Edingburgh Seismology Unit were
both asked in these previous questions.
The incident in question remains unresolved. At around 2200hrs
on 24 March 1997 a number of witnesses located in and around
the Peak District reported hearing an aeroplane in trouble
f ollowed
by
a crash. Police and RAF Search and Rescue
helicopters were scrambled and conducted a thorough search of
the area but f ound no signs of a crash. No civil or military
aircraf t were reported missing f or that day. Since the event a
number of theories have emerged, including one that the
crash
heard
by
the witnesses may have been a sonic boom
generated by
an aircraf t.
We do not know whether military aircraf t were
operating over
Shef f ield on the evening in question. An investigation now
would be impracticable given the passage of time. The
only
centrally maintained indication of activity are the low
f lying
booking sheets and these show that Tornados f rom RAF Marham
were booked to f ly within Night Low Flying Sector 3A between
2030 and 2107 hours local time on 24 March 1997; over an hour
bef ore the alleged incident took place. Although low
f lying
military aircraf t are not permitted to overf ly towns and
cities, it is possible that the Tornados
(or other military
aircraf t) may have f lown over Shef f ield at medium level.
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Organisation
(HQ MATO). They can confirm that no inadvertent
sonic. events were
logged with them for the evening of 24 March
. 1997.
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may
have.
generated a sonic event of which the pilot
was
unaware.
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R u d l o e
M an o r , W i l t s h i r e , i n
r e p o r t i n g "
, As
c o l l e c t i o n
an d
i n v e s t i g at i o n o f U F O r e p o r t s I T o m
s e r v i c e
s o u r c e s
p r i o r t o 1 9 9 2.
. .
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m ai n t ai n a
p ap e r o r e l e c t r o n i c
r e c o r d o f r ad ar t r ac k s o r
r e p o r t s o f
r ad ar
t r ac k s
r e c o r d e d w i t h i n t h e U K Ai r De f e n c e
R e g i o n t h at h av e r e m ai n e d
u n i d e n t i f i e d
f o l l o w i n g
i n v e s t i g at i o n ? I f t h at i s t h e c as e , f o r h o w
l o n g ar e
r e c o r d s p r - e s e r v e d ,
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P R O ?
8 . I n 1 9 9 6 i n t h e Ho u s e o f Co m m o n s , De f e n c e M i n i s t e r N i c h o l as
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SIR
P ATRICK
WALL
(CONSERVATIVE)
(B EVERLEY ) ,
Sir
P atrick
Wall -
To
ask
the
Secretary
of
State
for
Defence,
if he
has seen
the
United
States
Air
Force
memo
dated
13
J anu ary
1981
concerning
u nex p l
ined
lights
near
RAF
Woodbridge.
SUGGESTED
ANSWER
(Mr
Stanley)
.
.
Y es.
"
.~
.
. ;
B a c k ~ r o u n d
No te
"
, .
These
thr ee
gu estio mfo llo w
fr o m
the
News
o f
the
Wo r ld
. . . .
a r tic le
o f
2
Oc to ber
1983
( A n n ex
A )
d esc r ibin g
a n
a lleged
U F O
sightin g
by
U S A F
per so n n el a t
RA F
Wo o d br id ge
in
S u ffo lk
o n
2 7
Dec ember
1980.
The
r epo r t
o f
13
Ja n u a r y
1981
( A n n ex
B )
ex a min ed
by th~
A ir
S ta ff
a n d
DS 8. It wa s
c o n c lu d ed
tha t.
ther e
wa s
n o thin g
o f
d efen c e
in ter est
in the
a lleged
sight~ g.
Ther e
wa s, o f
c o u r se, n o
qu estio n
o f
a n y c o n ta c t
with
" a lien
b
in gs"
n o r wa s
a n y u n id en tified
o bjec t
seen
o n
a n y
r a d a r
r ec o r d in gs,
a s
a lleged
in the
News
o f the
Wo r ld .
A B B C
in vestiga tio n
in to
the
in c id en t
fo llo wi~ g
pu blic a tio n
"
o f
the
News
o r
the
Wo r ld
A r tic le
c o n c lu d ed
tha t
a
po ssible
ex pla n a tio n
fo r
the
lights seen
by the
U S A F
per so n n el
wa s
the
pU lsa tin g
light
o f the
Or fo r d n ess
lightho u se
so me
6
_
7 miles
a wa y.
. .
The
so le
in ter est
o f the MOD
in
O
r epo r ts
is to
esta blish
whether
they
r evea l
a n ythin g o f
d efen c e
in ter est
( eg
in tr u d in g
a ir c r a ft).
MOD
in vestiga tio n s
a r e
n o t
pu r su ed
beyo n d
the
po in t
a t
whic h
we
a r e
sa tisfied
tha t a
r epo r t
ha s
n o -d efen c e
implic a tio n s.
No
a ttempts a r e
ma d e
to
id en tify
a d
c a ta lo gu e
the
lik ely
ex pla n a tio n
fo r
in d ivid u a l
r epo r ts.
L a st
yea r , L o r d
L o n g, d u r in g a
d eba te
in itia ted
by
the
Ea r l
Cla n c a r ty,
sa id tha t he
wo u ld
lo o k
in to
the
po ssibility
o f
PU blishin g
su c h
r epo r ts a s a r e
r ec eived
by the
Min istr y o f
c I .
\
~
")
.
~
Defenc e.
US
6f
S(AF) has
now
dec ided
to-releasec ompilat1ons
of
reports. "
They will be
published
on a
quarterly
: t> asis and
will
be.
available
to
members
of. the
P Ubli, c , . .
at a
, small
c harg e.
to
c over
c osts.
US of
S(AF) had
plannec i,
to
mak e
an
announc ement
shortly
in
the!
House ot Lords
throug h
an arrang ed
P Q .
P ending
arrang ementsf
r an
announc ement
in the
Lords, US
of
S(AF)
has
ag reed
that
we should
indic ate
the
dec ision
in the
C ommons.
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.
. . ,
. . .
I
547
.
W r i t t e n A l l S w e r s 1 A P R I L 1 9 9 8 W r i t t e n A n s w e r s
548
u n r e s o l v e d i s s u e s o f f a c t u a l a c c u r a c y r a i s e d b y
t h e P r i s o n
S e r v i c e . Th e p r o t o c o l h a s t h e f u l l a g r e e m e n t o f t h e
D i r e c t o l G e n e r a l o f t h e P r i s o n S e r v i c e a n d t h e C h i e f
I n s p e c t o r .
W o r l d C u p
Mr . Ma u d e : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r t h e
Ho m e D e p a r t m e n t w h a t i n f o r m a t i o n t h e F r e n c h
a u t h o r i t i e s h a v e p r o v i d e d t o h i m a b o u t t h e p r o p o r t i o n o f
t i c ke t s w h i c h w i l l b e c h e c ke d a g a i n s t i d e n t i f i c a t i o n a t t h e
t u r n s t i l e d u r i n g t h e f o r t h c o m i n g W o r l d C u p . [ 3 71 6 6 ]
Mr . Mi c h a e l [ h o l d i n g a l l s w e r 3 1 Ma r c i l 1 9 9 8 J : W e a r e
a s s u r e d
b y
t h e F r e n c h a u t h o r i t i e s t h a t s u p p o r t e r s a t t e n d i n g
m a t c h e s d u r i n g F r a n c e
9 8
w i l l b e s u b j e c t t o a r a n g e o f
s e c u r i t y c h e c ks b y p o l i c e a u t h o r i t i e s a n d s t e w a r d s b e f o r e
e n t e r i n g s t a d i a t o e n s u r e t h a t t h e y h o l d v a l i d t i c ke t s , a n d
t o f u r t h e r c h e c ki n g f o l l o w i n g e n t r y t o t h e g r o u n d . Th i s
w i l l i n c l u d e s t e w a r d s c o n d u c t i n g c h e c ks o n t h e v a l i d i t y
o f t i c ke t s p r i o r t o e n t r y t o t h e g r o u n d a n d a g a i n b e f o r e
t h e p e r s o n t a ke s u p
h i s o r h e r s e a t . A l l t i c ke t h o l d e r s w i l l
b e s u b j e c t t o a s e a r c h o u t s i d e t h e s t a d i u m b y
t h e p o l i c e
o r g e n d a r m e r i e , p r o v i d i n g a f U l 1 h e r o p p o r t u n i t y
t o c h e c k
o n t h e v a l i d i t y o f t i c ke t s .
Th e F r e n c h a u t h o r i t i e s h a v e n o t s t a t e d t h a t a n y s p e c i f i c
p r o p o r t i o n o f t i c ke t s w i l l b e c h e c ke d a g a i n s t
i d e n t i f i c a t i o n ; Th a t i s a n o p e r a t i o n a l m a t t e r f o r t h e F r e n c h
a u t h o r i t i e s . Th e y h a v e i n d i c a t e d t h a t c h e c ks a g a i n s t
i d e n t i t y w i l l b e c a r r i e d o u t i n
a n y
c i r c u m s t a n c e s w h i c h
g i v e r i s e t o s u s p i c i o n . V e r i f i c a t i o n c h e c ks w i l l a l s o b e
c a n i ~ d o u t r i n a r a n d o m b a s i s .
Th e r e i s s t r i c t t i c ke t i n g l e g i s l a t i o n i n p l a c e i n F r a n c e
a n d t h e a u t h o r i t i e s h a v e u n d e I 1 a ke n t o a p p l y
t h i s
r i g o r o u s l y .
F i r e a r m s
Mr . R o b a t h a n : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r t h e
Ho m e D e p a r t m e n t h o w m a n y c l a i m s h a v e b e e n m a d e f o r
i n c r e a s e d c o m p e n s a t i o n p a y m e n t s t o f o r m e r o w n e r s o f
h a n d g u n s h a n d e d i n u n d e r t h e F i r e a m 1 s (A m e n d m e n t ) A c t
1 9 9 7: a n d h o w m a n y (a )
h a v e b e e n s e t t l e d a n d (b )
a r e
o u t s t a n d i n g .
[ 3 72 9 4]
Mr . Mi c h a e l : Th e l e v e l s o f c O I 1 p e n s a t i o n u n d e r
O p t i o n s A a n d B o f t h e c o m p e n s a t i o n s c h e m e a n d t h e
e v i d e n c e r e q u i r e d i n s u p p o r t o f c l a i m s u n d e r O p t i o n C a r e
p r e s c r i b e d i n t h e s c h e m e b o o kl e t a p p r o v e d b y
P a r l i a m e n t .
Th e r e i s n o p r o v i s i o n f o r m a ki n g i n c r e a s e d p a y m e n t s
o u t s i d e t h e t e r m s o f t h e s c h e m e , a n d s o t h e q u e s t i o n o f
c l a i m s f o r s u c h p a y m e n t s d o e s n o t a r i s e .
D EF ENC E
Mi l i t a r y A i r c r a f t
He l e n J a c ks o n : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e i f h e w i l l m a ke a s t a t e m e n t o n t h e r e g u l a t i o n s
c o v e r i n g m i l i t a r y a i r c r a f t b r e a ki n g t h e s o u n d b a r r i e r a b o v e
(a ) u r b a n a n d (b )
o t h e r a r e a s . I
3 6 4 6 ]
2 71 . } C W I . : d - P A G I 1 I 7
Mr . S p e Ha r : Th e f o l l o w i n g r e g u l a t i o n s ,
w h i c h a r e a n
e x t r a c t f r o m Mi l i t a r y F l y i n g
R e g u l a t i o n s . a p p l y
t o
s u p e r s o n i c f l y i n g b y m i l i t a r y a i r c r a f t i n U K a i r s p a c e :
I n t h e U n i t e d Ki n g d o m F l i g h t I n f o r m a t i o n
R e g i o n (F I R ). a n
m e d i u m a n d h i g h l e v ; 1 s u p e r s o ~ i c n i g h t s a r e t o
b e - m a d e o v e r t h e
s e a . A i r c r a f t h e a d i n g d i r e c t l y o u t t o s e a m a y
a c c e l e r a t e t o s u p e r s o n i c
s p e e d w h e n a t l e a s t 1 0 n a u t i c a l m i l e s (n m ) o u t t o s e a a n d a l o n g a
f l i g h t o f a t l e a s t
2 0"
d i v e r g e n t f r o m t h e m e a n l i n e o f t h e c o a s t ; t h e
a n g l e o f d i v e i s n o t t o e x ~ e e d t h e m i n i m u m n e c e s s a r y . S u p e r s o n i c
! l i g h t s w i t h t h e a i r c r a f t p o i n t i n g l O w a r d s t h e l a n d . t u m i n g o r O y i n g
p a r a n e ) t o t h e c o a s t a r e t o t a ke p l a c e a t l e a s t 3 5n m f r o m t h e
n e a r e s t c o a s t l i n e .
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MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
WEDNESDAY 25 MARCH 1998
MRS HELEN
JACKSON (LABOUR)(SHEFFIELD,
HILLSBOROUGH)
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To ask the
Secretary of State for Defence, if he will make a
statement on the regulations covering military aircraft breaking
the sound
barrier above (a)
urban and
(b)
other areas. [36406]
MR SPELLAR
The following regulations,
which are an extract from Military
Flying Regulations, apply
to supersonic flying by
military
aircraft in UK airspace:
In the United Kingdom Flight Information Region (FIR),
all medium
and high level supersonic flights are to be made over the sea.
Aircraft
heading directly out to sea may
accelerate to supersonic
speed when
at least 10 nautical miles (nm)
out to sea and along a
flight of
at least
200
divergent from the mean line of the coast;
the angle of dive is not to exceed the minimum necessary.
Supersonic
flights with the aircraft pointing
towards the land,
turning or
flying
parallel to the coast are to take place at
least 35nm
from the nearest coastline.
Supersonic
flying
at low level over the sea within UK FIR may
take place provided that the above rules are followed and that,
in addition, a radar/visual
search is maintained in order to
avoid the
following by
the margins indicated:
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(a) Shipping
and fixed or mobile oil and gas
installations:
3nm.
(b)
Civilian or military transport
aircraft: a minimum of 6nm.
(c)
Helicopter
main routes and corridors: 6nm.
with the exception of Air Defence missions, operating
authorities
are to notify the appropriate
radar station of all planned
supersonic flights in advance. Radar stations are to maintain a
permanent record of supersonic flights carried out under their
control.
If any captain
knows or suspects
that his aircraft has
inadvertently made a supersonic flight he is to enter details in
the Flight
Authorization
Book. In addition, it is the
responsibility of the station concerned to notify the appropriate
radar station of the flight
within 30 minutes of the aircrafts
landing. The radar station is to maintain a special record of all
such occurrences.
Wednesday 1 April
1 998
24361
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(a) Shipping
and fixe d or mobile oil and gas installations:
3nm.
(b)
Civilian or military transport aircraft: a minimum of 6nm.
(c)
He licopte r main route s and corridors: 6nm.
~ w ith the e xce ption of Air De fe nce ~ A)
missions, ope rating
authoritie s are to notify the appropriate radar station of all
planne d supe rsonic flights in advance . Radar stations are to
1 >
maint~
a pe rmane nt re cord of supe rsonic flights carrie d out
unde r the ir controJ .:..- ; c
)(If
any captain know s or suspe cts that his aircraft has
inadve rte ntly made a supe rsonic flight~ he is to e nte r
de tails~ in the Flight
Authorization Book. In addit~ on,
it is
the re sponsibility of the station, conce rne d to notify the
appropriate ~ radar J stationl
of the flight w ithin 30, minute s
the aircraft s
"
landing. The radar station is to maintain a
spe cial re cord of all such occurince s.x
of
March 1 998
24361
,
BACKGROUND NOTE:
In addition to this question, Mrs Jackson has tabled a further
four questions (PO
2434i, 2440i, 2444i, 2446i) relating to an
incident which took place over the Peak District on 24 March
1997. Her interest in the event may
have been generated by
a
number of recent enquiries from journalists. Helen Jones MP
has also asked a related PO
2448i.
The incident in question
remains unresolved, at around 2200hrs
on 24 March 1997 a number of witnesses reported hearing a
plane in trouble followed by
a crash. One claims he saw a red
glow in the sky.
police and RAF Search and Rescue helicopters
were scrambled and conducted a thorough search of the area but
found no signs of a crash. Records for both civil and military
aircraft showed that no aircraft were reported missing for
that day.
Since the event a number of theories have emerged,
including one that the
crash heard by
the witnesses may
have
been a sonic boom generated by
an aircraft.
Individual squadrons
record any
inadvertent and unauthorised
events but these logs
are only
held for six months.
Copy
to:
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accurate and reflects
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notes are responsible
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information is accurate.
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with your
area.
MPs DETAIL: MaS HELEN
JACKSON
(LABOUR)(SHEFFIELD,
HILLSBOROUGH)
QUESTION
141TO
ask the Secretary
of State for Defence, if he will make
a statement on the regulations
covering military
aircraft
breaking
the sound barrier above (a)
urban and (b)
other
areas. [36406]
REMEMBER you
are
accountable
for the accuracy
and
timeliness
of the advice you
provide.
Departmental
Instructions
on
answering PQs
are set out in DCI GEN 150/91
and can be viewed
on the CHOTS public
area and on DAWN.
.
,
(a) Shipping and fixed or mobile oil and gas installations:
3nm.
(b) Civilian or military transport aircraft: a minimum of 6nm.
(c) Helicopter main routes and corridors: 6nm.
With
the
exception of Air Defence
(AD) missions, operating
authorities
are to notify the appropriate radar station of all
planned
sUpersonic flights in advance. Radar stations are to
maintian a
permanent record of supersonic flights carried out
under their control. . .
If
any captain knows or suspects that his aircraft has
inadvertently made a supersonic flight. . . he is to enter
details. . .
in the Flight Authorization Book. In addition, it is
the
responsibility of the station concerned to notify the
appropriate. . . radar [station] of the flight within 30 minutes of
the aircraft s
landing. The radar station is to maintain a
special record of all such occurances.
March 1998 24361
.
,
BACKGROUND
NOTE:
In addition to this question, Mrs Jackson has tabled a further
four
questions
(PQ 2434i, 2440i, 2444i, 2446i) relating to an
incident
which took place over the Peak District on 24 March
1997. Her interest in the event
may have been generated by
a
number
of recent enquiries from journalists. Helen Jones MP
has also
askep a related PQ 2448i.
The
incident in question remains unresolved, at around 2200hrs
on 24
March 1997 a number of witnesses reported hearing
a,
plane in trouble followed
by
a crash. One claims he saw a red
glow in
the sky. Police and RAF Search and Rescue helicopters
were
scrambled and conducted a thorough search of the area but
found no
signs of a crash. Records for both civil and military
aircraft
showed that no aircraft were reported missing for
that
day. Since the event a number of theories have emerged,
including one that the
crash
heard
by
the witnesses may
have
been a sonic boom generated
by
an aircraft.
Individual
squadrons record any inadvertent and unauthorised
events
but these logs are only held for six months.
Copy to:
PSO/ACAS
AS. DD2
DPO(RAF)
RAFKinloss
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HQMATO
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D u r a t i o n o f s i g h t i n g
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R o u n d a n d l a r g e w i t h l i g h t s
( No o f o b j e c t s , s i z e , a r o u n d t h e e dg e . H o v e r i n g
s h a p e c o l o u r , b r i g h t n e s s )
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s t a t i o n a r y , m o v i n g
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f i r s t s e e n ( a l a n dm a r k m a y
b e m o r e u s e f u l t h a n a b a dl y
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h e i g h t s a r e u n r e l i a b l e )
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( M o v i n g c l o u ds , h a z e , m i s t e t c ) D r i z z l e
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h i g h v o l t a g e l i n e s , r e s e r v o i r , l a k e
o r da m . s w a m p o r m a r s h , r i v e r .
h i g h b u i l di n g s , t a l l c h i m n e y s ,
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