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A2RS 3RSTb Ontological and relationship between faith and reason Religious faith and evidence Evidence-sensitive faith as closely coordinated with demonstrable truths Evidence-insensitive an act of the will of the religious believer alone. Either or both might be the basis for a faith The revelation on which faiths are based are immune from rational critique. If we could demonstrate that there was no great flood-what would that mean for faith? How might a faith interact with reason? CONFLICT. Faith and reason are making claims of similar kinds. When they say different things there is CONFLICT One or the other is TRUE INCOMPATIBILIST Reason aims at empirical truth; religion aims at divine truths. No rivalry exists between them. St Paul I Corinthians Chapter 1 18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate. 20Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. Tertullian 160 220 A.D.Christianity is not merely incompatible with but offensive to natural reason. credo quiaabsurdum est (I believe because it is absurd) religious faith is both against and above reason , when we believe, we desire to believe nothing further. Augustine 354 -430 Intellectual inquiry into faith was to be understood as faith seeking understanding (fides quaerens intellectum). To believe is to think with assent (credere est assensione cogitare). It is an act of the intellect determined not by the reason, but by the will. Faith involves a commitment to believe God, and to believe in God. Anselm one must love God in order to have knowledge of Him. the smoke of our wrongdoing will prohibit us from this knowledge. ontological argument-it is possible for reason to affirm that God exists from inferences made from what the understanding can conceive within its own confines. seeks not to understand in order to believe, but to believe in order to understand. reason doesnt judge faith but helps to find its meaning. Faith cannot be shaken by reason. Galileo Darwin The Big Bang To what extent can reason challenge faith? To what extent can reason inspire faith?