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06-03-2011 12:54 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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06-03-2011 01:07 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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Here's an example of a Dionysis killer build. http://b5.clapalong.c om/?fid=N201105106484951 a) Telchines tries to stun both Dionysis and any helper heros like buglars/dancers. b) Leuco is put in front to block/dodge the Dionysis hits/BM. c) Peneus is used to stun and kill Dionysis. The healer helps rec over troops for crippled heros that get hit by Dio... typically this is a bad idea against Dionysis units, but its almost a nessesity if you have a mage build. This one worked out alright, but it very c lose and needed Peneus to go on a roll with no help available.
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06-03-2011 01:14 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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Here's an example of the Dio build nuking my mages. http://b5.clapalong.c om/?fid=N201106032898270 Notice how the healer is pretty much useless in this build. Without a stun to slow the onslaught, Dionysis pops his way though the mages. Quick fix? swap in Telchines for the healer, and swap in Heph for Charon (much stronger hitter and BM resistanc e). Best firing order would be: 1) Telchines (stuns), 2) Epimethius (sniper), ................................ 3) Heph (sniper tank) ..................................4) Peneus (stun sniper), 5) Psmathe (last c hance to hit Dionysis this round).
06-03-2011 01:19 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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Here's the saving grace for those looking to beat Dionysis builds... concentrate your fire. http://b5.clapalong.c om/?fid=N201106032287764 In this example you see how Dionysis is easily nuked when he's infront of 2 snipers. Being able to get in 3 sniper shots and a meterorite hit from afar before he fires off a BM makes him pulp quickly. When you KNOW your enemy has a Dio, Thalia, Rhea in formation GET TO HIM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
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06-03-2011 03:35 AM
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Kyrtin
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Nice guide! However, Noc turnal Blitzkrieg and Morale Absobtion BM aren't useful most of the time (Against NPC and other build), so it's not a good idea to train them. Morale suppression doesn't work well against players, it will not reduce morale by alot. Having at least 1 Bugler is very useful for reducing the morale, screw up the dancer or the 3 bugler build.
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Here's another stategy: Clear all other heroes with AOE, then have a sniper, mage at the bottom to kill the HP. http://b5.clapalong.c om/?fid=N201105256218728 Or you can have a huge BM sniper, like Triton, or Sac red Stardust heroes to 1-2 shot the recovering hero.
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06-03-2011 04:00 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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Here's one that shows the advantage c haos can give. A Daphne bomber (Pandora's Curse) vs a Dionysis bomber: http://b5.c lapalong.com/?fid=N201106037260673 The Daphne Bomber is weak, his next Ren will be at lv88, he's only lv80 now... and the opponent is a purple archenemy on B5.
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06-03-2011 04:11 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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Nocturnal Blitzkrieg and Morale Absobtion BM aren't useful most of the time (Against NPC and other build), so it's not a good idea to train them. Morale suppression doesn't work well against players, it will not reduce morale by alot. Having at least 1 Bugler is very useful for reducing the morale, screw up the dancer or the 3 bugler build.
Yeah, Morale Supression is good for expedition maps (i.e. Titan Axes), but in PvP it's a pain only good for 25 moral hits... but the ability to do it from anywhere is nic e... not just from in front like Noc Blitz. A buglar or two is ok if you're already using more than 1 BM, but its a waste of a slot if you only have 1 BM user (i.e. the other 3 are mec hs, mages, or a healer)... and the benefit is limited... only makes the pop next round even more painful. If you have a healer in formation you really WANT BMs to fire 100 moral every round, instead of 200 every second round... the big hits make it harder to recover from (i.e. you may heal yourself from small hits, but get nuked from a larger one).
Clear all other heroes with AOE, then have a sniper, mage at the bottom to kill the HP. http://b5.clapalong.com/?fid=N201105256218728 Or you can have a huge BM sniper, like Triton, or Sacred Stardust heroes to 1-2 shot the recovering hero.
Yeah, the SS BM is tempermental though... you got to hope you get hit hard enough to take a chunk of troops, but not so hard you're dead. Its usually a 1 shot deal with SS heros. Put one in front and cross your fingers. If you're Poseidon like us, yeah, Triton looks like a monster. So does Poseidon. Defense is good... continous BMs are even better since you won't give away free moral boosts from your tank infront of Dio.
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06-04-2011 12:31 AM
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SteveTheHammer
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One last thing, Moral Supression does affect NPC's by percentage, and PvP by fixed amount. Moral Supression heros like Eurybia are very potent in clearing the map out, especially when Titan Axes (using the c ontinous-fire Troop Rec overing Attack) are frequently used, as is the case in Tartarus.
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06-05-2011 08:20 AM
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Wiseleo
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Has anyone tested Rally against these attackers? Dio or Rhea hits Rallier and heals himself or herself for 1. Then something like Thalassa or whatever your choice of a sniper unit might be nukes him out of the sky.
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06-05-2011 12:01 PM
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Trimgor
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well, i have something to say. the effect that Morale Supression decrease enemy morela is from 20 to 60 there is the formula your Morale Suppression Hero's spirit attribute - enemy hero's spirit attribute
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