HER HOLINESS SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI SHRI KARTIKEYA PUJA IN HOLZKIRCHEN, GERMANY, 13.7.

1986 So now the war is on the subtler level. We have to now understand that all these things have brought such a shattering effect in the west, on the western personality. So the first effort one has to do, is to repair it, to put it straight -make it stand on its own legs, because people lost their personality, their tradition. They had no moorings, no roots. And they started moving towards anything that was brought in, as some sort of an intellectual experience. The women became very independent and they thought they can work out their own problems that they thought they can become like men. Here the problem started even in a worse way - because woman is a woman, and a very little thing which is called the man in her. When she tries to avoid what she has, and develops something that she has very little, then she becomes funny. But she may be possessed by so many men who are dead -the desire to become manly can attract so many bhoots who want to enter into a woman's mind. And when they enter they have the garb of a woman, and the mind of a devil and the woman cannot see it, because maybe with these devilish things in the worldly way, they might be successful. They might be better of. Maybe they can dominate everyone. They might become meticulous like men, absolutely matter of fact, very neat, tidy, clean, devoid of all beauty and sweetness. Then these women ultimately become like vampirs. So though the war is over, it is working through the women of Germany, I think. I've heard this attack had come before also, and there were women called as amazonic. Now that history is repeating itself again. The other day I had an interview with a German lady, and I was amazed at her attitude, because I felt, she is still a nazi in her, some nazi-bhoot is sitting in her. She was a double personality. One way she was talking sweetly, another way she was a nazi and a fascist. Very cunningly they have got arguments. The first thing they can do is to say that we are siding with down-trodden people like Indians. Indians are Aryans, we are Arians and we are people who are sympathising with the Aryans. Indians are spiritual people, and they feel they are like Indians ... all the things, now can you believe it? The quality of life should improve, is the point. The quality of men is different from that of women, I've told you many times, and if women try to be manly, then they cannot achieve anything proper. We've had many like this, we've seen Mao's wife, we've seen Tschangkaischek's. Now this new lady Carlos - Carlos her name is? Marcos, Marcos. So many women like this, they always make a mess of things when they try to be manly. In the history we have many women. In India women are very well equipped. We've had women like Jhansi Ki Rani who fought against the British. She was a widow. She tied her child on her back and fought the British. They say that her horse jumped from 180 feet from the turret of a fort, and the Britishers have written down, that though we have got Jhansi the victory comes to us but glory goes to Jhansi Ki Rani. We've had great women in India like Noorjahan was another great woman, we had Chand Bibi Ahlliya Bai but they were all women, they didn't have ego of men. When it comes to it, one can work, work in the offices with men, but they need not become men. I'll tell you an example of my own: I had to build our house in Lucknow I did it in a real woman style. And I've built a very good house, better than any man could build, in a very, very cheap way. Like a man would go - first of all he'll get an architect. Go and measure everything, then he'll try to fit everything into it before hand. Then he will in his ego go to some expensive place, shop, get something expensive, be cheated by that. Then again in his ego he will go and get some expensive labour and appoint somebody he'll be in charge of everything - in charge! I did it in a very different way. I had money, so I went and found out who are the best people, who have the best bricks. The house was to be built by bricks. Then what else do you need? Just like a woman would cook her food, you see. You need also sand, alright, then you need cement and you need iron bars and labour. So I didn't go the way men went round. I found out the man who was selling the best bricks. So he

said: I have no money because I have to put up those kilns and fill them up with the bricks and for that you'll require initial money." I said: "Alright, I'll buy one whole kiln from you, whole one. How much will you take from me?" He said: "5000 rupies is sufficient" But he said: "If the kiln goes off, or there is something wrong with it, is misfired, then it is your look out." I said: "Does not matter, you put one kiln in my name." So I bought a complete kiln from him, complete. Kiln, kiln is a thing where they put all the bricks you see, and then cover it with mud and fire from downwards. Sometimes it could be that the whole thing can go into a waste or crumble down. I said: "You do like that, only 5000." When it was nicely fired and all that, it would cost you nothing short of 50'000 rupies. Then I went to the river and I said: "How much for one part as they call it, a big area of sand. They said: "At this time when it is summertime it is very little, but in wintertime it will be quite a lot." A man would go, he'll say: "Alright, now you need so much, bring it now. Then you will need more, you bring it now. But I didn't do that. I said: "Summertime is a nice thing, cheap, you are getting, why not buy the whole?" So I bought the whole part, the whole area of that sand, alright. Then I went for the iron mongers, I said: "Now, what about the iron?" They said: "You have to order. But if you order in bulk then we'l give you much cheaper, and cash down you have to pay so much." I said: "Alright, I order it." So it was all ready. Just like we do for cooking, get everything ready, ready there. Then what we needed was wood, so they said: "Wood will come from Nepal." I said: "Alright, what else?" They said: "From any other forest it can come." So I went to a forest in the center of India, called Jabalpar. There I ordered. The whole wood was cut newly and in an auction. I've bought a lot of wood from there. And I got all that there plus I got the marble from there. This marble was never used before anywhere. I said: "It's very simple, I can use this marble for everything." So I've got marble and wood together from that place. Then the labour. Then I've asked my friends, if they knew any good workers who are good at masonary work. They said: "Yes, this one is good, that one is good." So I called all of them. I said: "See, now you can stay with me in this house and I'll feed you very well and I'll give you food and I'll look after you very well." So they settled down with their family and I used to cook for them. By cooking I won them over and they would do anything for me, absolutely. They were so kind to me. They would produce new techniques that they knew. They would produce an effect of marble out of the cement, all kinds of art that they had, they put there. So such a big house, with 20 bedrooms and 5 diningrooms was created within one year's time. Not only that, but the price of the house nobody can believe, was one tenth of the one that the architect would have taken. But it was all written so well, everything done so well, because I didn't know how to write accounts so what I used to do. Every day I used to say: "Alright, today I take out so much money, then this much was spent." Like that I wrote everyday and not one single rupie was missing in that. So nobody could prosecute me. No problem, otherwise all the officers who built their house, they had to go through lots of problems, their income was taxed, this thing, nothing, nothing happened, and I got such a huge house made with such little money, and such a house, that people said that even Taj Mahal may fall down and this will not fall. Because I made a good foundation, everything, because I had bricks so cheap. The whole of the kiln I bought for no price at all and half of it I sold back, because so much was remaining. Then whatever I had bought, the sand I bought. I sold half of it, because I didn't need it, at double the price. So I got my sand free. The wood that I had bought from there, I got it properly chiselled out and I had a little tank in which I've put it, so the whole thing became absolutely, what you call that, weatherproof. I got it out and half of it I used, half of it only for 100 windows and 60 doors, and the rest of it I sold. And even the chips were sold for burning, you see burning wood, what you call that? So can you imagine, something was sold as timber and some for the huts. But I had to do cooking for them, I had to look after their comfort. I got them nice blankets and nice beds to sleep in and this and that, so they were very happy. That's how a woman works out and everybody was amazed, they could not find faults with my account,

they could not find faults with anything; and I told all my husband's friends to keep 5 miles away from me. (Laughter) Because he was working with the prime minister, people would have said that alright, she is taking bribes and things like that. Then there was another problem, was that they would have come and told me, this is not good, that is not good. I kept them out, because only they can argue, men can only argue. Women produce the results! No conferences, nothing, I said nothing doing. Let me do the job myself. Very nicely in the company of all these people I built the house, a beautiful house which I think they have taken a film of and you might be able to see the house that I've built there. So then the woman, who is a Sahaja Yogini, must develop these special qualities. Because she's very intuitive, woman is very intuitive. She always reaches the right conclusion in no time, if she's a woman. But if she's half man and a little of a woman, then I don't know what sort of a thing she is. So a woman should try to be a woman, she's so powerful. She is powerful like this Mother Earth, who can bear every sort of thing and she can give the best that is within her extremely sacrificing, extremely giving, forbearing, loving, forgiving. When men develop the women's quality, then they become saints. But not the women's quality that they run after women, this kind of a nonsense it is not that. They have to be viras, they have to be chivalrous people, they have to be brave. They have to be brave but with that they have to develop compassion, forgiveness. But I think, it is the other way round in Germany very much, and I find around also among western Sahaja Yogis, this is a very common affair going on. Women develop horrible egos. In India women work. Everything they do. We have had great orators since long time, well known. But they don't have ego. My mother was honours, in those days when there were only 2 or 3 women who had done such a degree. But I never saw any ego in her. My own daughters, one of them has done architecture and also interior decoration. She's not now working because her husband is working, alright, but she makes houses for others, she draws for others, she helps others freely and she has such friends. So what is the achievement of a woman, she has more people around her. Human power, she has more human beings around her. And what is the capacity of men? They have all the bills of the house to be paid. They have to pay for the insurance, for the repairs of the car, let them do the dirty jobs. We receive all the love letters, from the children, from the husband, from everyone. They are loved, they are cared for. Now because they have become manly, they don't have all these advantages. Like formerly if you were going in a bus, they would give a seat to a lady. Now nobody does that. Once a lady was travelling, old lady, and there was one young fellow sitting there. I said: "Why don't you allow her to sit down?" He said: "Why should I? She is also wearing a pant, I'm also wearing a pant." See this old lady was wearing trousers, so he said: "Why should I give her a seat? She's wearing a trouser, I'm wearing a trouser, what's the difference?" So all that is our advantage and privilege we are loosing by becoming men. And what do we gain, what do we gain? Actually on the contrary, I think in modern days, women are much more slaves of men than they were before. They get very upset. Let's say, there is a Sahaja Yogini. Now she's caught up very badly and she has certain problems. First thing she'll think about: Oh God, now my husband will leave me, will take away my children, where will I go - she'll never think of Sahaja Yoga. But I've met one extraordinary woman, I must say. She was a real woman. She said: "Mother, because I'm schizophrenic, I want to get out of Sahaja Yoga. Ill divorce my husband, I don't want to see my children. Sahaja Yoga is much more important than me, than my husband and my children." That's a woman, I said. She said: "Im schizophrenic from childhood. I've discovered it now and it comes back." But mostly women are worried about themselves. "Oh God, Ill have to leave my husband! Means, what they were doing was to be sponge on the husband. "I'll have to leave my children." What about leaving Sahaja Yoga. If you think, Sahaja Yoga is the most important, you can get rid of your schizoprenia also. Why should God help you? You are just thinking like ordinary women about yourself, only worried about yourself. Not worried about Sahaja Yoga. Same with some men, but men are not so much frightened because they think, they can stand on their legs. And women should also know, now they are Sahaja Yoginis, that they are Sahaja Yoginis and Mother is

going to look after them. But if you are worried about yourself only, your husband, my house, my children, then you are a ....... You are no more a woman now. It's not a sign of a good woman. A woman is that, who loves all the children. Her loving capacity is great. But if she becomes miserly, if she becomes small minded, then she's not a woman. I told you about my grand daughters, I asked them: "What you want to be?" They were very small. So they said: "We want to be a nurse or an airhostess." So I said: "Why, what is so great about these jobs?" They said: "Grandmother, in these two jobs only, you can feed people. There is no other job in which you can really feed others." The joy of feeding others is greater than writing files in the office, absolutely I tell you. It's a horrid job to write files in the office. It's better to do some nice cooking, thinking so many are going to eat and enjoy it, than to do this dirty job. But women have lost their heads. They are not level headed now, become stupid! Now in Germany you have to be very careful, in Austria you have to be very careful. Austrian women are great, but I would say, German women, that you don't try to be men. First thing of all, the best way to stop it, is not to talk too much. If you start talking like men, then all the bhoots will enter into you and start talking like men only. And then you will see how the men are controlled. We Indian women know, how to control our men much better than you do. Why we don't have divorces? Why we don't have problems? We quarrel, alright, doesn't matter, but our men don't run after another woman, we don't dress up, I mean so much, we don't go to hairdressers, we don't have these beauty-aids, all that. So develop your self respect, you are the Shakti, you are the power. If you make your men cabbages, what sort of children you'll have? Cabbages only. Respect them, make them men, enjoy their manliness. Then they'll never give you up. There is no competition between the two. I find the main problem today in Germany is, that the women have lost their senses, this is what I feel absolutely about Germany. Take to music, take to art, so much copies that today who is remembered, see in here. Who is remembered? The musician Mozart. Everyone remembers Mozart, even on a chocolate we'll find a Mozart there. I don't know, poor thing. Did he ever eat any chocolates or not? Or they will remember, see here, they have Michelangelo or they'll have Leonardo da Vinci or they'll have somebody like that. Nobody remembers who was the officer at that time, running with the file up and down. So women have something that they can be of eternal value. That they should develop. The greatest thing is that a woman can love and love and love. But when she becomes selfish and selfcentered, starts worrying about herself, there is no beauty in her love. Today I took it up, special this thing, because today you are worshipping me as Kartikeya. Kartikeya was the son of Parvati Uma, who was just a mother of these two children, Ganesha and Kartikeya. And one day, the parents Shankara and Parvati both of them said: "Out of you two, the one who goes round the Mother Earth first time will get a special price. So Kartikeya was the manly power absolutely and he said: "Alright, I'll start on my own conveyance", which was a peacock." Ganesha said to himself: "Now look at me, I'm a little boy, I'm not like him and my conveyance is a little mouse, how will I manage?" But then he thought: "My mother is higher than the whole universe. What is the Mother Earth?" So this Kartikeya was out, going around the Mother Earth, Shri Ganesha went round his mother 3 times and he got the prize. Because of these mother-qualities, for him she's the highest, even higher than Sadashiva. But surprisingly, that is what Sadashiva likes, that you respect your mother, the motherhood in you, the womanhood in you. "Tatra Nariya Pujayanteh Tatra Ramaynteh Devtah". Where the women are respectable and respected, there the Gods reside. Women are very important. Of course I must blame the western men also, the way they have illtreated their women, have kept out of religion, have always put them down. I mean, in India we've had Muslims doing that, but they are even very sophisticated, aggressive ... and they did it very badly and they kept all of them down. But doesn't matter, still, forgive them and try to be women, very powerful. The powers of a woman are that of love, which are the powers of God, and that is to be used, than to use other argumentative intellectualism, all nonsense, don't waste your energy with that.

1 would like, specially the Sahaja Yoginis of Germany, to become more and more ladylike. It doesn't mean good cooking only, but it's the attitude towards life. To think in a wider way. That the whole Sahaja Yoga depends on our loving capacity. We have to be extremely loving, extremely kind, looking after Sahaja Yogis, giving them all the joy that is possible, otherwise in this country they can become like vampirs. So be very careful. And for men also, I would say, if there are women of that kind, you must respect them, you must give them all their privileges, look after them. They look after children, but give them all the assistance, all the money, that is needed by them. Do not ask for accounts and things, let them manage it. At the most you'll become bankrupt as it is you are. But first see, what their attitude towards Sahaja Yoga is. I've seen in the families, where the women are in charge of the purse, always we get much more money for Sahaja Yoga work than from the houses, where the men are in control. It is very surprising, when men are in control, they have to think of their cars, they have to think of many big things, but when women are in control, they know how to save money, as I've shown you how I've saved money. Men can never save, they can never save money, only the women can save - but if they have a larger interest. Otherwise, if they are self-indulgent, they'll finish off all the money. By going into a shop to buy a shirt for a man, they'll buy all sarees for themselves, they can do like that. But if they have wider interest, if they have greater interest, they can use money so cleverly that they'll have always money to spend for others. What do I do? Whatever my husband gives me to run the house, it's quite a lot, I should say, but I sting on things, I go to the main markets, get things from there, try to save money on that, save here, save on my clothes. First time I have given my sweaters for dry cleaning in a good shop. That's how a woman saves, and then she spends for the general good. Because that is her real satisfaction. If we develop that kind of a balanced view about our married life, about our social life, we'll be ideal people in this world. About school also I've said it, very clearly. Now if you want to hear about it, I would request have you got that pamphlet with you? I wanted to read it. James: I did not bring it with me, Shri Mataji. Shri Mataji: You don't have it, that's just like men (laughter). They themselves said, they would like to read it here, you see. If you ask men to do the cooking, everything will be missing. So. Gregoire: Shri Mataji, may I most respectfully ask you is there any advantage at all in being a man? (laughter) Shri Mataji: Without the man, woman cannot express herself, she cannot express, because she is the potential. He is the kinetic. It's absolutely relative terminology. You cannot exist without a man, you cannot. Even if supposing, if you have all the fragrance in the Mother Earth, unless and until you have the flowers how will you know that there is fragrance in Mother Earth? Men are most important otherwise what will they do, all their energy will be all rotten. So if women are the Mother Earth, you are the flowers. Advantage, what - you are the people - everybody sees you. (laughter) Gregoire: Running around like Kartikeya (laughter) Shri Mataji: What can we do, you are that, you cannot sit at home. You cannot even in the train, if you're going, you'll find as soon as the train will start, all the man will get out of the train. They can't sit. Like I told my husband: "What is this, all the time you are running out of the house, why can't you sit in the house for some time, you must sit!" So he said: "No in our side, if any man sits in the house, he's called as Ghargustia, means, who is all the time in the house, you see." And I said: "What do they call the man who always runs away from the house?" "Ghargajna," means, the runner away, who runs away. There should be something between. But that's manly, it's alright. But we

can, with Sahaja Yoga, what we can do is to form a little balance between both the things. That is what Sahaja Yoga is, that it gives a balance. Then you start enjoying each others company so much that even in the house you enjoy, outside also enjoy. So you can be together inside the house also outside. The interests are the same, because the interest becomes the same. Like the flowers who fall on the Mother Earth make the Mother Earth fragrant and then we can say, that Mother Earth is fragrant, as beautiful as that alright. So, for education I've already given instructions and I've already talked about it that we are not to make a big adore out of this "Maria Montessori" and this and that. We are going to have Sahaja-Yoga-schools. All nonsense, because I've seen those who are teaching in Maria Montessori-style, the women have become horrible. I was amazed at the amount of Ego they have developed in themselves. So you'll become Sahaja Yogi-teachers and it's going to be a Sahaja-Yoga-school. In Sydney or in Melbourne. We've started the school in Melbourne very nicely, and now they are going to have it in Sydney the same way, and openly it is a Sahaja-Yoga-school, there is no fear about it. Openly it's a Sahaja-Yoga-school and then people have achieved so much out of it. Why should we take any guardian like that. We should go all out to say it's a Sahaja-Yoga-school. So you, the teachers also become experts in Sahaja-Yoga. So that they have to be good Sahaja Yogis or Sahaja Yoginis. They should not be egoistical, there should be no ego in them. They should not be catching. Anybody who is catching, is not a good teacher for Sahaja Yoga. It is not like in a Maria Montessori-school that in the night the teacher drinks, smokes and in the morning-time, she's a Maria-Montessori-teacher. Here you have to be Sahaja-Yogini first, and then only you can teach in a Sahaja-Yoga-school. You have to have that quality. That is very important, as it is important that we should get students who are realized souls or who can get realization. Alright. So today's pooja is specially for Kartikeya. Kartikeya represents the great, we can say the captain or the leader of all the Ganas, of all the, like a commander (in chief). Ganesha is the King, but he's the commander (in chief) and because German character is to be in command of everything. We are going to have this pooja where the men will be in command of their spirits and their manly qualities and women will be in command of their womanly qualities. To be in command is different from to be a master. Master owns it, a commander does not own it, he does not own it. That is also lost, possession is also lost. You just command it and that is the state we have to come to now. From Ganesha state to the state of Kartikeya. The other way round. Ganesha is nice, he's the king, very nicely sitting down with all the powers, allright, innocence is there. But Kartikeya is the one who commands innocence, gives you a power of that commandment. He commands. After the Guru-Pooja it is better that we should have the power to command others, and that commanding spirit comes in the men through their talking, through their dynamism, through their personal achievements. For the women, through their loving power, through their forbearance, through their gracious behaviour, forgiveness, compassion. So let us develop that today, that we can command it, means, it is not that what we have, but in the position we are to command. I hope you understand, what is Kartikeya. May God bless you! So let us start the Pooja.