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Post Options Post Reply Quote sean Report Post Quote Reply Topic: axle shaft types Posted: 05 Jan. 2007 at 4:23pm

Axle shaft types which might be found in Dana 25 front axles. Click diagrams to enlarge.
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Early axle shafts were either Bendix or Rzeppa joint. These used shims to set end play, and a castle nut & cotter pin to hold in place to the driving flange.

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A1: p/n A-853, spindle bushing B: p/n A-780, thrust washer (needed ONLY for Bendix axle) C: p/n A-6362, axle shaft bushing

Note the nut on the end of the axle shaft, and the spline "bump stops" just inside of the driving flange. Thrust washer "B", and shaft bushing "C", were installed in all axle housings, even though only necessary for Bendix axles. Sometime in early CJ3A production, the design was changed to eliminate the threaded axle end, the nut & cotter pin, and the need to use shims to set end play. Bendix, Rzeppa and Spicer joint axles were used in this new configuration.

A2: p/n 649783, spindle bushing w/flanged thrust face.

To use a new style axle shaft in an old axle housing, you need to swap spindle bushing A1 for A2. Note the nut on the end of the axle shaft has been replaced by a snap-ring, and the spline "bump stops" have been eliminated. The new style Bendix axle shaft DOES NOT USE the snap ring, it's only used on Rzeppa and Spicer axle shafts. End float of the Bendix shaft is set by the flanged face of "A2", and thrust washer "B". End float of Rzeppa & Spicer shafts is set by the flanged face of "A2", and the snap ring. NO SHIMMING NECESSARY! Only threaded axles require shimming.
Edited by sean - 29 May 2008 at 1:43pm

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Post Options Post Reply Quote sean Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 2007 at 9:06am

How to ID which type axle you have installed. In the absence of original ID tags (which are suspect anyway), take a peek through the knuckle fill plug hole. You'll need to remove the wheel & tire, or use a mirror, to see clearly. The yellow box shows the approximate view you get through the filler hole (top to bottom: Bendix, Rzeppa, Spicer):

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With the knuckle in the straight ahead, or slightly toe-in, position, rotate the axle through 360:

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Bendix - you'll see the yoke lobes & maybe catch a glimpse of each ball bearing Rzeppa - you'll see nothing but solid metal Spicer - you'll see the yokes & 1/2 of each bearing cap

Edited by sean - 25 Apr. 2009 at 10:39am

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Sean, et.al., I have the bendix front axle, on the L side, in my 1942 GPW, arrangement is exactly at the top illustration. Do you know a source for bushing "C", A6362 ? Somewhere in its history, the RF axle was changed to a Spicer, needing A2 bushing like the bottom illustration, but it still had the A1 bushing, which are now impossible (for me, anyway) to find. Kaiser Willys had the flanged A2 bushing, which I installed in the R spindle. I cut off the flange and installed the altered A2 in the L spindle. I got the B thrust washers, but wound up with oil seals in stead of bushings for part "C" bushing. Need the A6362 bushings - pls help. thanx, Stan

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Quote sean Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Mar. 2010 at 11:05am

Stan: Do you know a source for bushing "C", A6362 ? Ron Fitzgerald Jeep Parts: http://www.vintagejeeps.com/p-766-front-axle-tube-outer-bushing.aspx ... I cut off the flange and installed the altered A2 in the L spindle. There's no need to cut it off. It will work as-is with a threaded Bendix axle, just use shims as called for in the manual.

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[/QUOTE]There's no need to cut it off. It will work as-is with a threaded Bendix axle, just use shims as called for in the manual. Sean [/QUOTE] I'll second that. I installed mine with the flanges & there was clearance. Then shimmed to specs.

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