ENERGETIC NLP

TOM VIZZINI JUNE 20 1999

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<Vizzini> Everyone ready? <MrGordons> ========================Energy================ ==== <MrGordons> Yes. <TonyTony> y <TrancEd> yep <Vizzini> Cool <Vizzini> how many of you have played with the concept of energy <TonyTony> kinda <TonyTony> not really <MrGordons> Well I don't think in terms of literal energy, but I do visualizations which are similar to those done by people who play with "energy". <wendiii> real energy <TrancEd> e=mc^2 <Vizzini> I have been studying Qigong and several other things lately and want to apply it to NLP <Vizzini> :) <TonyTony> what is Qigong? <Vizzini> It is a study is using energy to heal <Vizzini> and other things <Vizzini> First I would like to say that this is all just a useful hallucination <Vizzini> that works <Vizzini> works <Vizzini> Has anyone had an experience that <Vizzini> in their past still seems to effect them? <Vizzini> Yep There was some there <Vizzini> Hello am I alone:)

<MrGordons> I've seen interesting effects in myself from different things I've played with, but nothing I could confirm solidly in others. <Vizzini> I know <Vizzini> ok <Vizzini> I have a theory that I would like to test <Vizzini> When you think of the event, does it still have an emotional response for you <Vizzini> The attachment that is still there has an energy to it <TonyTony> like an anchor? <wendiii> of course, there is an energy that you can feel <Vizzini> Yes very much like an anchor <wendiii> somewhere in your body, where the emotion rests <Vizzini> Yes wendi <Vizzini> well I wonder how that energy stays there? <Vizzini> how much of ourselves do we give to it <Vizzini> What I want to do tonight is explore the possibility <wendiii> I wonder too. I think it has to do with that cellular memory thing. Or the meridians and the way they store emotion <Vizzini> of getting back that energy <Vizzini> and producing more <Vizzini> and projecting it into what we want in our lives <Vizzini> With me so far <TonyTony> y <MrGordons> y <Vizzini> this wil take some visualization skills <RonDeVue> when you use the term 'energy', are you referring to the potential emotional response an event may have if or when recalled? <Vizzini> yes Ron and the way we give ourselves to it <Vizzini> imagine you could cut the supply of energy to that event <RonDeVue> deny the emotional reaction? <Vizzini> this could be old flings or jobs gone bad <TrancEd> would a negative event carry negative energy? <Vizzini> Nope you would not deny anything just take the charge out of it <TonyTony> let the man teach <Vizzini> It could Ed <MrGordons> Win Wenger has posited that there is no negative energy, just congested energy. <Vizzini> I tend to think of it as an expense of energy <Vizzini> giving life to un-useful events <Vizzini> what if you could project that energy and more into something positive??? <Vizzini> it might be an outcome that you want <Vizzini> or a change that you would like to make

<Vizzini> it might be typing lessons :) <MrGordons> lol <TonyTony> how? <Vizzini> Good question Tony <Vizzini> we will get right to that <Obu-Wang_> Theres no real waste of energy for one connected to the Infinite. <Vizzini> first I want to see if you can generate some energy <Vizzini> That is true for those who has access Obu <Vizzini> there are those who do not yet <Vizzini> ok we are going to have a bit of a group hallucination...OK? <Vizzini> You with me so far <RonDeVue> sort of, Tom <Vizzini> I want you to hold out you dominant hand <Vizzini> feel the weight of it for a moment <Vizzini> look at it and notice all the colors <Vizzini> especially you Ron <RonDeVue> ;) <Vizzini> wiggle you fingers and see the colors and shadows change <Vizzini> now notice everything that is not your hand in the room <Obu-Wang_> Mine is yellow, blue near the skin and a small layer of green on the outside. <Vizzini> See a doctor immediately <Vizzini> now <Vizzini> imagine that you can feel something at the top of your head <Vizzini> just a feeling <TonyTony> what? <Vizzini> maybe a small opening up there <Vizzini> Just try it Tony <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> Right <Vizzini> kinda like unscrewing the top of a jar and waiting to be filled <Vizzini> open your mind <Vizzini> allow yourself to imagine <TonyTony> ok <Vizzini> pure white light pouring into you head <Vizzini> and beginning to fill your body from the toes up <Vizzini> notice as it passes you knees <Vizzini> and you hips <Vizzini> and you chest <Vizzini> and your shoulders until you are about full <Vizzini> weird enough yet???? <ConneXion> nope <ConneXion> :)

<Vizzini> don't worry its not real <ConneXion> lol <TonyTony> feels bright and warm <proteus> is weird the state you are trying to induce? <Vizzini> cool huh? <RonDeVue> I feel much .. lighter <proteus> cuz weird to me is... normal <Vizzini> yes <proteus> :) <Vizzini> LOL <proteus> I remember my hand now <RonDeVue> my fingers are about to drop off! .... my hand hasn't seen this much action since .... well, never mind <proteus> ok, as long as we're talking about Ross I have to have amnesia about my hand... Im sure you understand <Vizzini> OK back on track <Vizzini> Notice as you fill with the light that you can <Vizzini> project into the middle of you hand a small spark of light <Vizzini> just a little one <Vizzini> and allow the light filling into you to feed that <Vizzini> let it grow into a ball of light <Vizzini> of any color you want <proteus> chocolate <proteus> bowling ball <Vizzini> make it about the size of a soft ball <Vizzini> as it gets that size let it grow in intensity <ConneXion> damn I already had a nice watermelon :| <ConneXion> hah <Vizzini> So is this getting weird??? <TonyTony> no <proteus> nope <Vizzini> ok now can you feel the warmth of it??? <RonDeVue> suspenseful <Insider> makes typing worse, not better <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> can you feel the weight of it???? <Vizzini> weight <TonyTony> y <Obu-Wang_> Yeah I feel the warmth...didnt notice the weight till now. <Obu-Wang_> this is like the Merlin thought ball technique <Vizzini> now this is not real...is it???? :) <RonDeVue> should it have weight and warmth? <TonyTony> in the mind

<Vizzini> play with changing the color <Obu-Wang_> Oh...mine is real. Very real. <Vizzini> not for you Ron :) <Vizzini> yours should itch <RonDeVue> lol <Vizzini> :) <Obu-Wang_> I can even feel the energy swirling, as if there's a small vortex inside that swirls the energy <Vizzini> what happens if the color changes to red???? <RonDeVue> that brings on the warmth <TonyTony> hotter <Vizzini> Allow the change to happen slowly <KJ> Heavier, hotter <Vizzini> or quick <TonyTony> hotter <Vizzini> now change the color to orange <Vizzini> let the changes take as long as you need <TonyTony> lighter <RonDeVue> more solid <Vizzini> now change is to green <Vizzini> pump more light into it <Vizzini> really get it glowing <TonyTony> green has a natural nature feeling <Vizzini> how do these colors effect your state???? <Vizzini> Does you state change with the color????? <RonDeVue> green seems to emit a 'happiness' with it <Vizzini> really open up and feel it <TonyTony> fresh <Vizzini> Is this different for anyone???? <proteus> different from what? <KJ> Yes, green feels different for me <Vizzini> from whatever you are used to <Vizzini> ok <Vizzini> here is what I want to do <Vizzini> look at the event in your past and blast it with a beam of green energy from your hand <Vizzini> allow yourself to continue to funnel light into your head as you do this <proteus> I think I missed the part about a past event <Vizzini> OK look into your past at an event that does not please you <Vizzini> one that has an emotional attachment <TonyTony> blast the location of it? <Vizzini> what happens when you hit it with a beam of green <Vizzini> yes hit the location

<TonyTony> so keeping my had in front of me? <Obu-Wang_> location as in submods or location as in timeline ?? <Vizzini> now try some of the other colors for a moment and notice if anything happens <Vizzini> whatever work Obu <Vizzini> it is not important <Vizzini> Are there and differences???? <KJ> I see it wither like under a hot poisonous gas <Vizzini> what colors intensify it and which ones neutralize it <TrancEd> I see the image being erased <Vizzini> Cool Ed <Vizzini> which color does that <TrancEd> white <KJ> For me, I can intensify it by adding swirls of black into the green... <Vizzini> anyone else <Vizzini> Cool <RonDeVue> white erased it, green made it seem 'yuch' <Vizzini> TRY GREY <Vizzini> Just curious :) <TonyTony> why makes it erase <TonyTony> white <Vizzini> how does that feel Tony <RonDeVue> gray made it dimmer <Vizzini> what does that do to the feeling Ron <TonyTony> like it never happened <Vizzini> Can you still recall it??? <RonDeVue> it made the experience feel like less of a part of me <TonyTony> it's harder <Vizzini> and get the lessons from it?? <TonyTony> just harder to see <Vizzini> Remember to make sure you get the lesson from it before you disappear it <RonDeVue> how do you mean? <TonyTony> I already did that before though <Vizzini> OK what happens if you hit it with red???? <Vizzini> Good Tony <Vizzini> I love the weird stuff :) <KJ> hit what with red, the globe or the event? <Vizzini> turn the globe red and hit the event with a beam from the globe <KJ> You would choose red... <RonDeVue> causes anger <Vizzini> Nope just playing to see what happens

<Vizzini> now try blue <KJ> Clearing state like the sky... <TonyTony> blue is like water <Vizzini> OK now is this useful yet???????? <TonyTony> wash it away <TonyTony> yes <KJ> Yes <Vizzini> Could this help you with some things??? <Vizzini> ok now for something new <TonyTony> yes <RonDeVue> several do come to mind <TonyTony> does it have to do with girls f-ing your brains out? <Vizzini> OK now do whatever you want with the past event <Vizzini> It could???? <Vizzini> Hit it with the color you want <Vizzini> and then turn the globe to white again <Vizzini> and clear your mind <Vizzini> Let me know when you have done this <TonyTony> ok <TrancEd> ok <Vizzini> I want you to think of something that you want to draw into your life or want to be able to accomplish <Vizzini> Make a picture of it in your mind <RonDeVue> just one? :) <Vizzini> Ron you just sit there and wiggle you fingers and notice.... <Vizzini> Anyway <RonDeVue> yes sir <Vizzini> how clear is the picture <Vizzini> make it something that is a challenge <Vizzini> with me so far??? <TonyTony> y <RonDeVue> yes, wiggled finger and all <Vizzini> Give me a little feedback <TrancEd> ya <Vizzini> OK now is it clear to you??? <TonyTony> y <Vizzini> ok <Vizzini> now <Vizzini> here is the tricky part <Vizzini> into the ball of energy I want you to project the state or skills that you will need to accomplish this <Vizzini> give those skills a color and notice them fill the white ball <Vizzini> if one is confidence give it a color and fill it

<Vizzini> Pick another one and give it a color and watch them swirl together <TonyTony> can it be a rainbow? <Vizzini> sure it can:) <Vizzini> ad as much as you need <TonyTony> is my head opened at the top? <wendiii> dont let your brains spill out Tony <Vizzini> allow more light to fill you and charge up the ball of energy <Vizzini> Yes tiny LOL! <Vizzini> Tony <Vizzini> oops <TonyTony> ok <Vizzini> really get it glowing <Vizzini> then shoot the ball into the thing you want to accomplish <TonyTony> the location? <Vizzini> let go of it and let it fill you goal <Vizzini> yes <KJ> Shoot the ball or a beam from the ball? <Vizzini> shoot the whole ball <Vizzini> let it hit it and charge it with the energy from the ball <Vizzini> charge <KJ> Ok, the ball has returned to my hand, clear like a crystal <Vizzini> notice it begin to glow <Vizzini> Cool <Vizzini> where did the colors go???? <KJ> to the event on my timeline <RonDeVue> all over <KJ> the ball was just the delivery mechanism <TonyTony> in the location <Vizzini> does it look/feel different when you look at it now??? <Vizzini> Yes Tony the location <RonDeVue> more charged now <TrancEd> when I first pictured the image it was black and white, now it is in color <Vizzini> Cool Ed <Vizzini> How do you feel about it now <RonDeVue> more excited <RonDeVue> more confident <Vizzini> Does that work for you <Vizzini> does it seem more attainable???? <TrancEd> like I'm there <RonDeVue> yes <Vizzini> let me know, this is for my info too <Vizzini> Does it seem that you would be more or less likely to get it???

<RonDeVue> more likely to do the actions <RonDeVue> more motivated to do so <TonyTony> you get more feel to it <TonyTony> like you know you just know it can do it <TonyTony> well it let's you feel and know it <Vizzini> Now here is the key <Vizzini> When you go to the mail box to mail a letter <Vizzini> if you hang onto it the mail "person" will not take it <Vizzini> you have to let it go <Vizzini> so after you have really charged it up...send it!!!! and let it go <Vizzini> I am not sure how this works but it does <TonyTony> is it like trusting your work <Vizzini> in order to get it you have to send it <RonDeVue> you use this technique often, Tom? <TonyTony> trusting your unconscious? <Vizzini> Yes I do Ron <Vizzini> In a way Tony <TonyTony> what is the difference? <Vizzini> I think of it as putting in an order <Vizzini> when someone ORDERS MY CDS SET the have to trust when the PAY OR THEM that I will send them back LOL! <TonyTony> but when I do some nlp work I trust my work, like you said sending it <Vizzini> Sorry had to do it LOL! <MrGordons> lol <Vizzini> Yes that is right <Vizzini> you are tonight Tony <Vizzini> right <TonyTony> aren't I? <Vizzini> Now I want to try a group experiment ok??????? <KJ> OK <TonyTony> k <TrancEd> sure <Vizzini> I want a suggestion of something that we all want to happen <RonDeVue> can I stop wiggling my fingers now? <Vizzini> Jus put them someplace nice Ron and keep wiggling :) <RonDeVue> ooooOOOO <Vizzini> <Vizzini> <Vizzini> <Vizzini> LOL OK I am open to suggestions what do you guys think????? Come on do I have to do all the work???

<Vizzini> :) <RonDeVue> how about untold riches? <Vizzini> For whom Ron??? <RonDeVue> I guess for all of us <TonyTony> what are you looking for? <Vizzini> How about some told riches <Vizzini> Anything Tony <KJ> Success with women in exactly the way we want it <Vizzini> a world event <Vizzini> a goal <RonDeVue> world peace? <Vizzini> anything <Vizzini> Something a little simpler to start Ron :) <TonyTony> ha ha ha <RonDeVue> sheesh ... picky picky <RonDeVue> :) <Vizzini> well it does have to be a positive thing :) <Vizzini> You guys there? <RonDeVue> how about an unexpected Monday off? <Vizzini> OK we will do something simple <MetaMAN> I am here, I would comment but just getting here I have no clue <TonyTony> I think you should pick <MetaMAN> how about winning the next lottery tickets we buy ? <Vizzini> OK we will try that Meta <Vizzini> Who knows...it could work! <TonyTony> lottery? <TonyTony> I hope so <Vizzini> sure <Vizzini> OK <Vizzini> everyone who wants a winning lottery ticket <Vizzini> do this all at the same time <Vizzini> ok???? <tangram> ok <RonDeVue> I suppose ... :) <KJ> OK <TonyTony> ok <c-ripper> yes. <Vizzini> OK Ron you don't have to:) <Vizzini> Build an energy ball in your hand <Vizzini> really charge it up <Vizzini> funnel as much external energy into it as it will hold <TonyTony> opened head? <KJ> any particular color?

<Vizzini> yes Tony <Vizzini> chose a warn orange <Vizzini> warm <Vizzini> really get it glowing <TonyTony> k <KJ> charging <Vizzini> when you are ready get a picture of you winning the lottery <Vizzini> all of us as a group winning <Vizzini> going to an island and celebrating <RonDeVue> (get typing instructions for Tom) <RonDeVue> :) <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> ok <Vizzini> now when I say to....send the ball into the picture <Vizzini> are you ready????? <TonyTony> y <RonDeVue> y <Vizzini> one <tangram> y! <TrancEd> y <Vizzini> two <Vizzini> three <Vizzini> NOW!!!!!!! <Vizzini> really feed it <Vizzini> watch the changes <Vizzini> all the way in <MetaMAN> wow it went three dimensional <Vizzini> and then let it go! <TonyTony> take a deep breath? <Vizzini> OK cool huh? <Vizzini> I would <Vizzini> I am sweating after that one <Vizzini> OK feed back??????? <Vizzini> is this too weird yet :) <RonDeVue> not at all! :) <KJ> this ball was much larger for me, like a beach ball with the same weight <MetaMAN> nope, reminds me of Silva meet dhe <Vizzini> It I very much like that <Vizzini> a combination <TonyTony> works very nice <Vizzini> hell I don't know if it will work but it is fun <TonyTony> easy to visualize <TonyTony> than a swish

<RonDeVue> I need to practice this one <Vizzini> Practice is good <TonyTony> what else have you done with this? <Vizzini> I have used this to get peoples attention <TonyTony> how? <TonyTony> throw a ball of energy at their face? <Vizzini> no not their face <KJ> How? <Vizzini> send it to all of them hitting them in the solar plexus and spreading out <Vizzini> You MUST have positive intent <TonyTony> and after you send it, will they respond? <Vizzini> or it will boomerang <Vizzini> most of the time they will <KJ> like a drop of water hitting something larger? <Vizzini> more like creamer in coffee <Vizzini> OK questions so far??????? * Abys was just about to do that :) <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> Anyone <MetaMAN> how can one know when one is building energy Vs imagining they are ? <KJ> What are you doing to charge up your positive intent? <Vizzini> Well KJ what would your intent be? <KJ> Positive is vague, I was trying to figure out something more descriptive <Vizzini> Well you should not intend to do damage <Vizzini> it will only hurt you <KJ> if the damage comment was to me, that wasn't my intent <Vizzini> Well KJ what would your intent be? <Vizzini> It should be for the best of all concerned <KJ> so like preparing to have an incredible emotional connection? <RonDeVue> perhaps after I've played with it, I might have some, Tom <Vizzini> It is all just a useful hallucination <Vizzini> ok Ron <tangram> Tom, do you use this when you're presenting to a group? If you've already answered, I'll check the transcript <TrancEd> When I let go of the ball it tended to keep drawing energy for awhile, was my ball not big enough? <Vizzini> yes Ed you need bigger balls LOL <Vizzini> I do this with groups <TrancEd> ;) nice <Vizzini> Sending a little extra doesn't hurt

<Vizzini> Then you are fine <Vizzini> of course I believe that me getting the job is the best <Vizzini> yes KJ <KJ> excellent <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> I also believe that it is best that I get the girl <Vizzini> I have used this to draw student to seminars <Vizzini> really <Vizzini> Th next day I got 5 sign ups <Vizzini> I can't explain it but it seems to work <Vizzini> any more questions on this subject <Vizzini> subject <Vizzini> damn! <Vizzini> :) <Vizzini> was that you <Vizzini> :) <MetaMAN> how to tell when someone is creating energy Vs imagining they are ? <Vizzini> It is all imagination Meta <Vizzini> Body follows mind <MetaMAN> thats what I have wondered <Vizzini> everything follows mind <TonyTony> when do I buy my lottery ticket? <Vizzini> we create our own futures <MetaMAN> any suggestions how to increase the impact of ones imaginings ??? <Vizzini> I would go out tomorrow <MrGordons> Actually this question reminds me about ones I've heard about NLP techniques, and I think the answer is, if it gets the result it doesn't matter. <Vizzini> That is true <TonyTony> trust is important <Vizzini> the better the visualization the better the outcome <MrGordons> Better being more vivid, well formed, what? <MetaMAN> is there such a thing as doing to much "wishing with energy" or how to know when one is doing enough to get the result ? <Vizzini> The thought is that you should do this for several times <Vizzini> if you do not get the result then you are not supposed to <Vizzini> I know that sounds lame but that is all I know <Vizzini> OK lets open the floor to any questions on any subject <Vizzini> anything at all about any of the chats we have had <RonDeVue> any??? :) <Vizzini> yep any <TonyTony> to assume rapport and to expect it, and pretend as if you

go it <TonyTony> can you elaborate <TonyTony> got it <Vizzini> I don't like that model myself <TonyTony> ok <MrGordons> You said the better the visualization the better the result, did you mean more vivid, more well formed, or something else? <Vizzini> I think that you must test rapport <Vizzini> well the better means the more modalities that you can add to it <Vizzini> picture <Vizzini> sound <Vizzini> smell <Vizzini> touch <Vizzini> taste <MrGordons> And more detail, and potency? <Vizzini> yes <TonyTony> how do you test it? by pacing and leading? <Vizzini> it should also be life sized <Vizzini> yes Tony <Vizzini> Tony <Vizzini> Calibrate <Vizzini> calibration is the key to knowing <TonyTony> but assuming rapport does work <TonyTony> right? <Vizzini> Yes I would assume so <Vizzini> because it does :) <MrGordons> Life sized? Not larger or smaller? <Vizzini> No not larger or smaller <Vizzini> Gordo: any bigger or smaller would make the image a little unreal <MrGordons> Ok, makes sense. <Vizzini> you want it as real as possible <Vizzini> you can bring it closer though <MrGordons> Should you put as much emotional energy behind it as possible, or keep that realistic as well? <Vizzini> it depends on the emotion <Vizzini> I would say put that emotion into the ball of energy that you send <MrGordons> Ok. <MrGordons> And you can pump that up really high? <Vizzini> and let it mix with everything else <MrGordons> Ok. <Vizzini> yes you can

<MrGordons> Would the outcome need to be well formed as well? <Vizzini> keep it in proportion to everything else though <MrGordons> Ahh. <MrGordons> IOW don't turn things into a cartoon. <Vizzini> Yep! <Vizzini> not unless you want a blow up doll <MrGordons> lol <Vizzini> :) <MrGordons> So Pamela is out then. ;-p <Vizzini> She is a blow up doll <Vizzini> more plastic than flesh <MrGordons> Should the outcome be well formed? <Vizzini> Yes <Vizzini> you should make sure it is something that you really want <Vizzini> you should step into it and test what it would be like if you had it <MrGordons> And we should, energy aside, take other actions to move toward that goal. <Vizzini> yes <Vizzini> Sitting on your ass after doing this rarely works <MrGordons> This is just to enhance our success, not a genie in a lamp he? <Vizzini> Yes <Vizzini> You still have to buy the lottery ticket <Vizzini> it will not show up by itself <MrGordons> What? Oh forget it then. ;-) <Vizzini> LOL!!!! <Vizzini> Any more questions?????? <Vizzini> on anything <MrGordons> Yes... <Vizzini> OK <MrGordons> Jobet has talked about a method he used on inanimate objects... <Vizzini> OK share <MrGordons> Have you ever experimented with that? <MrGordons> Well, and this will sound a bit loony..... <Vizzini> first let everyone here know what you are talking about so we all are up to speed <MrGordons> But he did what he called hypnotizing a girls beer, he did something where he charged up her beer with energy and got a positive response. <Vizzini> LOL <MrGordons> And I was wondering if you've done any experimenting

with anything like that? <Vizzini> I suspect he got the girl through the beer <MrGordons> lol <MrGordons> Well thats just to illustrate... <Vizzini> I suspect it was not a clean hit :) <MrGordons> Hmm. <MrGordons> lol <Vizzini> Meta: good question <Vizzini> OK I would like to announce our seminar on July 23 25 26 in Atlanta <Vizzini> Check out our web site http://www.essential-skills.com <Vizzini> If there is not anything else then this chat is HISTORY <MrGordons> None that come to mind. <MetaMAN> oh, I meant that the process of doing ones best felt good all the time, not necc. the existence itself would be pleasurable all the time <Vizzini> any feed back would be appreciated Tvizzini@ga.prestige.net <Insider> I have a question.. <MetaMAN> hmmm, so how do we end this chat as PROPHECY ??? <Vizzini> Well then just attach those feeling to your best effort <Vizzini> ok Inside <MetaMAN> LOL <Vizzini> :) <Insider> Is there a difference between eyes open and eyes closed hallucinations regarding results? <Vizzini> No <Vizzini> Some people visualize better with their eyes open <Insider> none at all? <Vizzini> some with their eyes closed <Vizzini> Nope <Insider> what's the structure behind that difference? <Vizzini> as long as you know it is a hallucination <MrGordons> How do you set up a filter for things like your rapport technique? <MrGordons> (Sorry it just popped into my head) <Vizzini> If you start thanking you visualizations are real you might want to change something <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> a Filter for what??? <Insider> I have difficulty deleting stuff I see physically <Vizzini> You mean real stuff? <Insider> But no problems with hallucinating on blank walls <Insider> yep <MrGordons> Well you might want to be in rapport, but screen out

things. <MrGordons> I've heard that people in rapport, or doing DTIs can pickup unwanted/unnecessary stuff from the other party. <Vizzini> That is true and I am glad you brought it up <Vizzini> you can use the energy ball as a filter <Vizzini> that is what I do <MrGordons> Can it be as simple as setting your intent to do so? <MetaMAN> does it matter the color or texture of the ball <MrGordons> Oh good one Meta. <Vizzini> I just use it to test the water so to speak <Insider> Has anyone modeled synesthesias? <Vizzini> You use it as a conduit for what ever energy you are using <MetaMAN> I have <MrGordons> Ahh. <Vizzini> I use gold <MetaMAN> I use gold too <Insider> In what context, Meta? <Vizzini> Like a meta position of rapport <MetaMAN> or diamond <MrGordons> And so that only lets "gold" stuff transfer between the two parties? <Vizzini> yes <MetaMAN> using a mirror surface can be useful for some things <MrGordons> And setting your intent to screen out the unwanted that can be another thing to do as well? <MrGordons> Ahhh. <MetaMAN> and the same for a mirror opaque <Vizzini> Yes it can <Vizzini> mirrors are better for shielding in my experience <MetaMAN> mirror opaque is very good to be invisible to others and energies <RastaRoge> ah..gold corresponds to the crown chakra, does it not? I may be mistaken <Vizzini> Yes it does <MetaMAN> too much mirroring can attract some "things"/energies <Vizzini> of course so does white <RastaRoge> I C <MetaMAN> rasta... that is correct ...in general <Vizzini> How about an example meta <Vizzini> Depends on the context <MetaMAN> that is true vizz.. white can attract some "energies" too that arent "pure" of intent/ or beneficial <Vizzini> true <MrGordons> Meta asked a good "Does the texture of the ball matter?"

And by extension I would ask, what Ks seems best for this? <Vizzini> I does not for me but play with it <Vizzini> this is just a model <Vizzini> twist is around <MrGordons> Right. <Vizzini> see what happens <Vizzini> there is no one right way <MetaMAN> there are some parasites that are attracted to high energy and try to dampen it or feed off of it, like magic, it is best to always filter and shield ones self. sometimes a dynamic shield is better than a static shield <Vizzini> explain a dynamic shield for those here <Vizzini> please :) <Insider> and static and filter! <Vizzini> Yep you started it meta <MetaMAN> exp. I spin my energy to the right and if anything "catches" it and tries to stop it I do the tai chi move of spin inning off it and turning my energy the opposite way spinning the attacking energy off with its energy <Vizzini> you have to tell them now <MetaMAN> dynamic shield is moving the energy, like rippling water <MetaMAN> static shield is holding the energy still like ice or glass <Insider> your shield is energy too? <MetaMAN> everything that exist on this plan exists on other planes as different freq or energy resonances we as a species seem to be sensitive to many levels of existence and by shifting state/trance become receptive and interactive throughout the senses with the differing levels of reality <RastaRoge> "luminous beings are we..not this crude matter" <MetaMAN> well, everything is energy <MetaMAN> its whether is conscious of its self or not <MetaMAN> if its needs source energy or is a source for source energy also called chi/ki <Vizzini> LOL Rasta <RastaRoge> :) well the little guy had a point <MetaMAN> from what I can tell being psychic is having trained hyperempira in the different rep sys and knowing what corresponding input relates to different phenomena and beings <ConneXion> my my my <Vizzini> LOL <Vizzini> Yes this is all a lie <Insider> Nearly there - what's source energy? <Vizzini> one more thing before I go <Vizzini> beware the energy vampires

<MetaMAN> NO SHIT <Vizzini> people that will suck your energy dry <MetaMAN> I have run across reiki people that think they are holy and light and are vampires and do attacks <Vizzini> U think we have all met e few <Insider> Only people can take your energy? <ConneXion> (the reiki vamps) <Vizzini> They are like sponges that can not generate any energy of their own <MetaMAN> lets put it this way a very good and powerful psychic teacher has shown me that are impressions emotionally are generally more accurate then society is comfortable with us having <Vizzini> You can give energy to anything but only people can forcibly take it <MetaMAN> if you think someone is fucking with you energetically they may be, and they may not even be aware of it consciously <Vizzini> That is 100% TRUE <MetaMAN> some peoples unconscious can do some pretty nasty shit and they dot even know it <MetaMAN> but they never consciously intended the harm <Vizzini> they can be cleaned up though <MetaMAN> that doesnt mean their energy didnt do something anyway <Vizzini> I have to run. thank you everyone for showing up <MetaMAN> thanks for the talk TOM <Vizzini> we will do it again!