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DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (for tach install, AVCR, GPS, etc) [Archived]

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DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (for tach install, AVCR, GPS, etc)

4:53 PM 7-30-2006

Ok, I know a lot of you are probably going to ask..."Our cars already have a tach, why the hell would you want to install another one?" I have two responses to that. Member Since 11-27-2004 5934 posts Charlotte NC 2000 Jetta VRT, 207,000 miles 407 whp 399 tq Firstly, if someone wants to do that to their car, it is their car and they can do whatever they want to it. Secondly, and probably *more* important, is that this DIY is a precursor to the LED Project #2 DIY (hint hint, coming soon). You'll need to grab the tach wire anyways, so might as well know how to do it. Needed Parts -Applicable splice (I prefer the green clamp-down ones, 18-22 gauge, available at radio shack) -Extra wire Needed Tools -10 mm socket -ratchet -small blade screwdriver -medium blade screwdriver -Torx-20 bit -Torque wrench: range 13-65 Nm If access to an ECU wire is needed: -13 mm socket Please be careful when performing this procedure. Read through the whole procedure before trying it. I can't be held responsible if I have made a mistake in the following steps. i. Initial conditions -The hood is open -The battery cover is removed Removing the cluster 1. Perform step 1.a of the Starter Motor Grind fix DIY. 2. Perform steps 6 through 12 of the MFA to FIS Cluster swap DIY. 3. Unwrap the black tape surrounding the blue connector for the cluster.

4. Locate the --GREEN WIRE WITH A BROWN STRIPE--. This will be pin 11 on the blue connector. This is the wire to splice into for your tachometer. Skip all of step 5 and all substeps of step 5.

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Note: Some later model year cars (after April of 2002) do not have a green wire with a brown stripe. If you believe that this is the case, you must grab the wire at the ECU. To do this, perform the following: 5.a. Perform steps 1 through 5 of the Cabin filter replacement DIY. 5.b. Pop off the passenger's side windshield wiper cover with a small blade screwdriver.

5.c. Remove the the 13 mm nut holding the wiper in place.

5.d. Spray some penetrating lubricant in the spline of the wiper. Then rock the wiper back and forth to get it off the spline.

5.e. Raise the windshield cowl and jam a piece of wood in there to keep the cowl raised.

5.f. Slide the locking tab on the right side of the small connector to the right. It should come out about an inch, and then the plug will slide right out.

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5.g Cut the zip-tie holding the cable bundle to the plug.

5.h Using a small blade screwdriver, pop the cover off the plug.

5.i Unlatch the locking clamp on the black hose, and draw the cable bundle as far out of the hose as you can.

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5.j Unwrap the electrician's tape holding the cable bundle together.

5.k Locate and label the appropriate wire carring the tach signal. Here is a summary of wire locations. You MUST check the wiring diagram appropriate for your car...I may have made a mistake in this list. Tapping into the wrong wire may cause SEVERE damage to your car. AEG from Sep 98 - white wire, pin 63 on 80 pin connector AVH/AZH from Aug 00 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AFP from Dec 98 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector BDF from Oct 01 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AWD from Nov 99 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AWW from Jun 00 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AWP from Aug 00 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector ALH from Sep 98 - white wire, pin 67 on 80 pin connector ALH from May 99 - white wire, pin 110 on 121 pin connector BBW from Dec 02 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector BEW from May 03 - black wire, pin 43 on 60 pin connector BEV from May 03 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector BJS from Oct 03 - red wire, pin 106 on 121 pin connector

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5.l Splice into the wire using whatever means you have at your disposal.

5.m Perform steps 5.j. through 5.a in reverse to re-install the connector into the ECU. 5.n Push out one of the rubber stops in the firewall , and route the wire behind the dash. I found it was easiest to tape the other end of the wire to a long screwdriver, stick it through the dash, and pull the wire through.

Note: At this point, you should have the tach wire behind the dash, whether it is from the ECU or from behind the cluster. The following steps return the cluster to inside the dash. 6. Install the cluster by performing steps 7-11 in reverse using the MFA to FIS Cluster swap DIY.

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That's it! Let me know with questions, comments, changes etc. Mike

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Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (FaelinGL)

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4:57 PM 7-30-2006

Offline Member Since 5-28-2004 7329 posts chicopee, ma 07 335i

nice writeup, this should go i nthe diy section

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Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (bigmak)

5:07 PM 7-30-2006

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Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (mattyrj)

5:26 PM 7-30-2006

Offline Member Since 9-15-2004 417 posts Vancouver BC 2001 Jetta Wolfsburg

nice writeup

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Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (yannerz)

5:41 PM 7-30-2006

Offline Member Since 7-24-2002 13069 posts Indian Trail, NC vehicle

My man Mike and his tech skills at work again!! Damn I'm glad he lives 20 minutes from me!!

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jaywire Member Offline Member Since 3-10-2005 176 posts cleveland ohio 05 Gti

5:51 PM 7-30-2006

i love it! ill be doin this as soon as it stops raining. can we get a time frame for "step two"? ya know, the that has to do with led's.

FaelinGL

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2:25 PM 7-31-2006

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Member Offline Member Since 11-27-2004 5934 posts Charlotte NC 2000 Jetta VRT, 207,000 miles 407 whp 399 tq

Bump for the afternoon crowd! Mike

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2:31 PM 7-31-2006

Offline Member Since 6-6-2006 3869 posts Brklyn Queens ny new beetle 98, audi a4 98, jeeta 05, GIT 10 soon rs4-380 Moderator good write up, even though i have no idea what this does.

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stephan315 Member Offline Member Since 3-14-2007 140 posts Syracuse NY '05 MKIV GTI 1.8T

Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (FaelinGL) From what I gather the DIY in this post is at a different location than the DIY in 1.8T forum (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2668641)...

2:04 AM 8-21-2007

Does anyone know which one works better? I would like to add a shift light, do I need this part "MSD Ignition - Tach Signal GMR Pickup Part #8918" in order for the light to pick up the signal?" <steve />

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Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (stephan315)

2:26 AM 8-21-2007

Offline Member Since 8-28-2005 9259 posts Charlottesville VA 2003 Honda S2000

im Mike (FaelinGL) and ask him. He has moved on to complete not only LED project #2 but numerous other FANTASTIC DIY writeups involving modifying the cluster (such as shift light, gear selection screen, etc). He really knows his **** when it comes to this and will give you the right info

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vwteck2 Member

Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (FaelinGL)

6:57 PM 2-22-2008

Offline i have a 02 vr6 its say white wire on your instructions but i have two white wires? Member Since 12-7-2007 74 posts

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suffolk va ,1986 jetta gli, 99 jetta glx mk3,02 bora vr6 Ghostman Member Offline Member Since 6-11-2006 291 posts NY 10:45 PM 3-13-2008

Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (vwteck2) Referring to 5k. Tapping into the wrong wire may cause SEVERE damage to your car. Is there usually only 1 solid white wire? AEG from Sep 98 - white wire, pin 63 on 80 pin connector AVH/AZH from Aug 00 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AFP from Dec 98 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector BDF from Oct 01 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AWD from Nov 99 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AWW from Jun 00 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector AWP from Aug 00 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector ALH from Sep 98 - white wire, pin 67 on 80 pin connector ALH from May 99 - white wire, pin 110 on 121 pin connector BBW from Dec 02 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector BEV from May 03 - white wire, pin 82 on 121 pin connector

FaelinGL Member Offline Member Since 11-27-2004 5934 posts Charlotte NC 2000 Jetta VRT, 207,000 miles 407 whp 399 tq

Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (Ghostman) Quote, originally posted by Ghostman Referring to 5k. Tapping into the wrong wire may cause SEVERE damage to your car. Is there usually only 1 solid white wire? Sometimes there is more then 1 white wire. Make sure you're counting the pins. Mike

12:01 PM 3-14-2008

Chapter 11 Dubs: Member 001 - "Go broke or drive tryin" Ghostman Member Offline Member Since 6-11-2006 291 posts NY 11:46 PM 4-27-2008

Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (FaelinGL) I have a 2002 AWP and am installing a Stewart Warner shift light. I'm also using a MSD Ignition - Tach Signal GMR Pickup Part #8918 On one of the other post it says to connect to pin #82...white wire ....and my tach numbers are extremely off. What color wire is Pin #9? Is it the large white wire on the left in my pic below? Here is a pic. I'm connecting to the upper right solid white wire. Is this correct if not what color is the correct wire? .....Thank you

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Modified by Ghostman at 11:41 PM 4-27-2008 redline4life Member Re: DIY - MKIV RPM wire tap (Ghostman) 2:02 PM 8-14-2008

Offline Member Since 11-16-2006 119 posts I tapped into the same wire as well and my numbers are off also. is it supposed to be the other white wire just below that one. pleese help

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neVes Member

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1:38 PM 12-12-2009

Offline Member Since 5-28-2008 170 posts Riverview FL Soon-to-be New Beetle ITC car Update: Early AEG from January 98 to what's listed the signal is pin #6 green/brown wire on the 80 pin connector. FYI both plugs on the ECU make up the 80 pin connector, #6 is on the larger of the two.

stealthmk1 Member

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2:39 PM 12-28-2009

Offline Member Since 8-16-2001 4928 posts Philadelphia, PA Mk2 Golf VR, Mk3 Golf VR, Mk3 GTI VR, Mk3 GTI 2.0, Mk6 Golf 2.5, 4000q Just installed an Autometer shift light in a AWP 20th GTI. That white wire wasn't working for me but I discovered that the green/brown wire that is at pin 11 on the back of the cluster on earlier cars is still part of the engine harness in the AWP, it just dead ends at pin 9 of the orange connector under the cover in the plenum. I tapped this and it's all go.

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