“I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.” ― Thomas A. Edison Most startups fail. We all know this as much as we try to forget it. The absolute hardest, hardest question an entrepreneur can ask themselves is: When do you know it’s over? In the first of two conversations in this episode, we are joined by Derek Bereit, CEO and Co-Founder of Symptomly, who is staring down the end of his runway and wrestling with this very question. In a second conversation we hear from Beth McKeon, Founder and CEO of Kids Calendar, who is dealing with another common challenge: How do you find, recruit and hire the right person for your startup at the stage that it’s in? As always we’d love to hear feedback from you either on our website or on twitter @reboothq. Now on with to the conversations.