A few shows back we had a double IPA that blew Doc's mind. Which is hard to do, considering how hard Doc parties. At any rate, we had that brewer, John, come back on to talk about his Kolsch. Will Doc love it as much as the double IPA? Then we chat with Jacob who sent us a Saison fermented with Brett and then aged in Cabernet Sav oak chips. Find out how Jacob did, and what our recommendations we dished out!Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices