Guest 1: Susan Fowler Title: Author, Why Motivating People Doesn't Work . . . and What Does Guest 2: Samuel Sudhakar Title: Chief Information Officer and Vice President for Information Technology Services, California State University, San Bernardino With nonstop business and technology disruptions, current leaders at the top are either becoming irrelevant or less than qualified to lead the charge. Is it time for laissez-faire leadership where they become the followers of the people they lead—letting go of the control—allowing the workers to navigate through the haze who in the process develop themselves and their leaders?