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ENGINEERS IN SOCIETY
TOPIC 2
ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALISM

Dr.Suhaimi Hassan Department of Mechanical Engineering 05-3687153 Room : 18-03-07 suhaimiha@petronas.com.my

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Lesson Outcomes

At the end of this section, students should be able to: Understand the characteristics of engineers as a profession Understand the process of turning professional
Describe and internalise the Engineers Act 1967

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Engineer as a Profession
PROFESSION: GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS
NOT simply

Requires sophisticated and specialized skills

practical training
or apprenticeship

Extensive
and regulated formal education

Special societies or organizations

Profession

Judgment / discretion.

Contributes significantly to public benefit

Work is not routine

(cannot be automated)

So, is engineering a profession?

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Engineers and Community

Communitys Perception on Engineers and Engineering

Lack of prestige and glamour
Not much money to make Majority of public do not get to meet engineers directly

Engineering
Do not receive due recognition and status in society quite low Not very good as compared to doctors, lawyers or accountant

No TV drama on engineers

Difficult course

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Engineer as a Profession

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Engineer as Profession

So, why you choose engineer as your future career ?

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Registration of Engineers Act, 1967

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Regulation of Engineers in Malaysia

BEM Board of Engineers Malaysia

Was passed by the Parliament to effectively regulate engineering professional practices REA is a law Engineers must register with BEM in order to legally practise.

The function of BEM is basically what REA is all about

Registration of Engineers Act 1967 (Act 138)

Was originally introduced to assist engineers in submission of building plans to local authorities.

Malaysia is the first country to have such a law.

The REA was amended in 1972, 1973 1974, 1987, 2002, and 2007 for the betterment of local engineering practice.

Refer to Section 3.3 of the text book for further reading.

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Registration of Engineers Act 1967

Historically the REA was related to building construction industry.

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Registration of Engineers Act 1967

Malaysia Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM) Institution of Engineers Malaysia (IEM)

Other Countries Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK (IMechE) American Society Of Mechanical Engineers, USA (ASME) Chartered Engineers, CANADA (C.Eng)

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Professional Engineering Societies

Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM) Institution of Engineers Malaysia (IEM)

Both BEM and IEM are the Professional Engineering Societies in Malaysia

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The Importance of Professional Engineering Societies

Source of support for engineers collective strength expressed through organized units. Mechanisms for helping engineers on ethics

Play a role by voicing concerns of engineering community

that engineers need to be licensed and registered.

Create an atmosphere conducive to ethical practice

Refer to Section 3.4 of the text book for further reading.

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Registration of Engineers Act, 1967

Any person who wants to take up employment as an engineer must be registered as a Graduate Engineer with Board of Engineers (BEM). BEM recognizes the experience

gained by an engineering graduate only after he has

registered as a Graduate Engineer. As such, it is prudent

for an engineering graduate to register as a Graduate

Engineer at the very beginning of his engineering career.

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Registration of Engineers Act, 1967

The recognized academic qualification for registration as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the following: An engineering degree accredited/recognized by EAC, BEM

available in an approved list maintained by EAC, BEM.

For degree which is not recognized (e.g. 3 years program)

need to be top up with a master degree by instruction from

accredited university.

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Registration of Engineers Act, 1967

The recognized academic qualification for registration as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the following: An engineering degree accredited/recognized by EAC, BEM

available in an approved list maintained by EAC, BEM.

For degree which is not recognized (e.g. 3 years program)

need to be top up with a master degree by instruction from

accredited university.

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Board of Engineers, Malaysia (BEM)

A statutory body constituted under REGISTRATION OF ENGINEERS ACT 1967 A government body, established in 1972 for regulating the professional conduct and practice of registered engineers in order to safeguard the public safety
Office: Board of Engineers Malaysia Lembaga Jurutera Malaysia Tingkat 17, Ibu Pejabat JKR Jalan Sultan Salahuddin 50580 Kuala Lumpur Malaysia http://www.bem.org.my

All graduates intending to work in Malaysia should first register with BEM once obtained their degree. Its a legal requirement.

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Board of Engineers, Malaysia (BEM)

http://www.bem.org.my

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Board of Engineers, Malaysia (BEM)

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Registration for Graduate Engineer

All application shall be made through MyBEM Online or Form

Registration fee of RM50.00 is compulsory for each application

All applicant need to submit the following supporting documents; - Copy of Identification Card (NRIC)/MyKad. - Certified True Copy of Degree. - Certified True Copy of Full Official Transcript Every document submitted must be certified as a true copy by a Professional Engineer who is registered with BEM Completed form submitted within 4 weeks from the date of application and will be processed and submitted to the Board for approval.

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Registration for Graduate Engineer

Every document submitted must be certified as a true copy by a Professional Engineer who is registered with BEM

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Board of Engineers, Malaysia (BEM)

Consists of 17 Board Members, appointed by the Ministry of Works, comprising: President 14 Professional Engineers 5 from public sector 5 from private practice 2 from local authority 2 from private sector 1 representative from Board of Architects Malaysia 1 representative from Board of Quantity Surveyors Malaysia Secretary and Registrar (PE) are ex-officio members

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Board of Engineers, Malaysia (BEM)

Committees:
Management Engineers Act Application Scale of fees Professional practice Examination and qualification Publication IT Monitoring Quality Training and education Engineering and accreditation

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Functions of BEM

1.

Regulating the Conduct and Ethics of Engineering Profession to safeguard the public safety.

2. 3. 4.

Undertake accreditation of engineering degrees. Undertake training and education of engineers. Promotion of continued learning. Processing Application for Registration and Maintaining the Register:
The Board keeps and maintains a Register, which comprises of five parts. Each contains the names, address & other particulars of: Part A: Professional Engineers Part B: Graduate Engineers Part C: Temporary Engineers

Part D: Engineering Consultancy practices

Part E: Accredited Checkers

5. 6.

Publication Fixing Scale of Fees

Refer to Section 3.4.1 of the text book for further reading.

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Registration for Graduate Engineer

PART C : Temporary Engineer He holds the necessary qualifications which are recognized for practice of engineering as a Professional Engineer He possesses the necessary expertise and has a minimum of 10 years experience in he field he intends to practice. His physical presence is required in Malaysia for not less than 180 days in one calendar year. He is employed as an engineer and has been assigned to specific project by a particular company. He is sponsored by a local Professional Engineer in the company which offers him the assignment.

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Registration for Graduate Engineer

PART D : Engineering Consultancy Practices Every sole proprietorship, partnership or body corporate desirous of practicing as consulting engineers shall register with BEM as provided for in Section 7A or 7B of the Registration of Engineers (Amendment) Act 2002.

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Registration for Graduate Engineer

PART E : Accredited Checker

Be a practising Professional Engineer registered under the Act in the civil, structural or geotechnical engineering discipline;
has at least 10 years' relevant practical experience in the design or construction of buildings; has adequate hands-on experience in the following; - Geotechnical (hill side development) - Structural

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Intersection of scientific knowledge with social need

The Institution of Engineers, Malaysia (IEM)

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IEMs Crest

A qualifying body for professional engineers in Malaysia. A non-governmental body. A corporate member of the IEM can apply to the BEM for registration as a professional engineer, which will entitle him to set up practice. Represents all disciplines of the profession

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The objectives of IEM are to promote and advance the theory and practice of engineering in all disciplines and to: raise the character and status, and advance the interests of the profession increase the confidence of the community in the employment of recognised engineers by admitting to the institution only such person who have adequate knowledge of both theory and practice of engineering promote honest practice, prevent malpractice and settle disputed points of practice and ethics arrange lectures, exhibitions and conferences, seminars, courses collect and disseminate engineering information encourage the study of engineering and improve the general and technical knowledge of persons engaged in the profession originate and promote improvements in legislation and its administration by deputations, submissions and representations

Refer to Section 3.4.3 of the text book for further reading.

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Professional Engineers

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Route to P.Eng

Engineer (Graduate Engineer)

Professional Engineer

What is the significance of the status of Professional Engineer (P.Eng)? The status signifies that the engineer has not only obtained academic qualification in engineering but also acquired relevant industrial working experience and professional career development in order to practise independently.

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Route to be a Professional Engineer (P.Eng)

Refer to Section 3.5.2 of the text book for further reading.

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Route to P.Eng

P.Eng: Requirements & Procedures

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Any candidate who applies for registration as a Professional Engineer must:

Be registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM; and Have satisfied the training requirements of BEM; and Has complied with all the requirements of the Board Have passed the Professional Assessment Examination (PAE) of BEM, OR been elected as a Corporate Member of the Institution of Engineers Malaysia (IEM); and Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not less than six months immediately prior to the date of application. Registration is only for citizen or permanent resident of Malaysia.
Refer to: http://www.bem.org.my/bemfinal/html/testing/08up/09a_perequirements&procedures1.htm

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Route to P.Eng
Registration with BEM as a Graduate Engineer

Graduation

Practical Experience Minimum of 3 Years

IEM Professional Interview

Pass

IEM Corporate Member

Professional Assessment Examination (PAE)

Pass

Competency Examination

Professional Engineer

Approved

Application for Registration as a Professional Engineer

Please always refer to IEM/BEM on accurate and up-to-date information on registration as P.Eng

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Route to P.Eng

Competency Examination since June 2008

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Route to P.Eng

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Professional Engineers

The Engineers Act 1967 (Malaysia) mentions about Part A: Professional Engineers.

Who are the Professional Engineers?

Refer to Section 3.5 of the text book for further reading.

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Professional Engineers

Act A1158
See page 14 of the Registration of Engineers Act 1967 (Amendment 2007)

Except as otherwise provided under any other written law,

no person or body, other than a Professional Engineer who is

residing and practising in Malaysia or an Engineering

consultancy practice providing professional engineering

services in Malaysia, shall be entitled to submit plans, engineering surveys, drawings, schemes, proposals, reports, designs or studies to any person or authority in Malaysia.

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Professional Engineers
Why be a P. Eng?

In practice, the status is meaningful for engineers involved in engineering

consultancy and turnkey contracting

business as it provides them the authority P.Eng is a term referred to qualified engineers practicing with license from the BEM. to certify technical drawings and designs.

P.Eng in Malaysia commonly use the title "Ir

(Ingenieur). e.g. Ir. Shaharin A. Sulaiman, P. Eng, MIEM.

Being a PE is a pre-requisite for a registrations in other bodies; e.g registration of Competent Electrical Engineer

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Limitations

Limit of authority in engineering

Certification as a P. Eng

Approved Degree & Registration with BEM

Non-Graduate

Graduate Engineer

Professional Engineer

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