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The Flat Earth Koran

11 of 13 – Koran Science & Cosmology


(Part 2)

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An interpretation of the Cosmology of
the Koran & a critique of Islamic
Fundamentalism

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Classification of the types of Scientific
Miracles said to be found in the Koran
There are perhaps about
100 – 120 different alleged
Scientific Miracles in the
Koran, according to Islamic
Fundamentalists.

They appear to fall into the


categories in this chart.

These Presentations will


focus on the alleged
relating to Astronomy,
Cosmology & the Physical
Sciences.

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Section 2 – Islam, the Stars &
Planets

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Claims about the Stars and Planets
17) The Solar System 25) Splitting the Moon

18) Planetary Orbits 26) Double-Star Sirius

19) Gravity 27) Pulsars

20) Gravity 28) Black Holes

21) Extra-Solar Planets 29) Cats Eye Nebula

22) Solar Orbits 30) Space Exploration

23) Solar Apex 31) Men on the Moon

24) Moon reflects light

All these things and more are supposedly referred to in the Koran,
but these claims are all false, as this presentation will show.
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Claim 17 – The Existence of the
Solar System

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Claim 17 Existence of Solar System

"We have indeed


adorned the
lowest Heaven with
an ornament,
the planets.“

Surah 37:6
Bucaille

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Claim 17 Existence of Solar System
1. According to this claim, the Koran predicted refers to the
Solar System with all the Planets in orbit around the Sun at a
time when everyone wrongly though that the Sun and Planets
orbited the Earth.
2. The idea of a Solar System was not known until AD1543
when Copernicus published his Heliocentric ideas.
3. According to Bucaille and others, The Koran miraculously
alludes to the modern concept of a Solar System 900 years
before Copernicus.
4. It is argued that Mohammed could not have known about this
unless he had been told by God.
5. Thus we are told that Surah 37:6 proves the Korans Divine
inspiration and the truth of Islam.

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Surah 37:6 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “Lo! we have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,


the planets.”
Yusuf Ali “We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in)
the stars.”
Hilali-Khan “Verily! we have adorned the near Heaven with the stars
(for beauty).”
Shakir “Surely we have adorned the nearest Heaven with an
adornment, the stars.”
Sher Ali “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the
planets.”
Khalifa “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.”

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Surah 37:6 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of
the stars.”
Palmer “Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the
adornment of the stars.”
Rodwell “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of
the stars.”
Sale “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the
stars.”
Irving “We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of
stars.”
Dawood “We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.”

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Response to Claim 17 (Surah 37:6)

1. Nowhere in this verse or any other in the Koran does it actually


say that the Earth or other Planets orbit the Sun.
2. Many verses of the Koran refer to the Suns moving relative to a
stationary Earth. (Surah 2:258, 21:33, 31:29 & 35:13)
3. This verse merely states that there are Planets (or Stars) visible
in the Sky. This had been known for thousands of years before
Mohammed and such a statement is not at all remarkable.
4. The Koran does not clearly distinguish between Stars and
Planets.This suggests that the author of the Koran wrongly
considered them to be similar.
5. The concept of a lower Heaven indicates a belief in a solid Sky
with Stars and Planets attached or beneath it.

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Aristarchus of
Samos
Left: The Ancient Greek Philosopher
Aristarchus of Samos (310 – 230 BC)

Although most Ancient Greeks, such as


Aristotle & Ptolemy believed that the Sun
& Planets orbited the spherical Earth,
not everyone agreed with this.

Aristarchus correctly proposed that all


the Planets including the Earth are In
orbit around the Sun, 1800 years before
Copernicus rediscovered the same thing.

This idea is far more advanced than


anything in the Koran.
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Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament

According to the
Koran, the Stars
are just little
lights attached to
the solid Sky.

Surah 81:1-2 says


that the Stars
will eventually fall
to the ground.

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Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament

In the Koran, Stars


are just little lights
hanging from the
underside of the
floor of Heaven.

They are not unlike


these oil lamps
hanging from the
ceiling of a
Mosque.

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Claim 17 - Conclusion
1. Surah 37:6 does not make any reference to the Solar System.

2. The concept of a Solar System is not in the Koran or in Medieval


Islam.

3. Surah 37:6 is only describing what was known thousands of


years before Mohammed and what can be seen with the naked
eye.

4. This is yet another example of Islamic Fundamentalists


misinterpreting the Koran in an attempt to prove their beliefs.

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Claim 18 – The existence of Gravity
& Planetary orbits around the Sun

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Claim 18 Gravity and orbits around
the Sun

“No! I swear by the


planets-that recede,
that ride their course
[and] hide themselves.”
Surah 81:15-16
Harun Yahya

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Claim 18 Gravity and orbits around
the Sun
1. This claim is that Surah 81:15-16 is an allusion to the Planets of
the Solar System revolving around the Sun under the influence of
gravity.
2. These verses are said to contain a reference to the fact that
sometimes various Planets can be on opposite sides of the Sun
and thus hidden from each other.
3. Such modern ideas in the Koran are said to be evidence of its
Divine authorship. Modern Science only developed this concept
in the 1600’s and so the Koran is said to be 1000 years ahead of
its time.
4. It is therefore argued that we should “revert” to Islam in the face
of such compelling evidence.

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Astronomers
Copernicus Galileo Kepler Newton

Between 1543 and 1689, modern Science discovered that the Earth is
One of several Planets orbiting the Sun & under the control of Gravity.

Some Muslims claim that this is alluded to in the Koran in Surah 81:15-16
& elsewhere 1000 years earlier.

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Surah 81:15-16 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “Oh, but I call to witness the planets, the stars which rise & set,
Yusuf Ali “So verily I call to witness the planets - that recede, go straight,
or hide;
Hilali Khan “So verily, I swear by the planets that recede (i.e. disappear
during the day & appear during the night). And by the planets that move
swiftly and hide themselves,
Shakir “But nay! I swear by the stars, that run their course (&) hide
themselves
Sher Ali “Nay! I call to witness those that recede while advancing, rush
ahead & then hide.
Khalifa “I solemnly swear by the galaxies. precisely running in their
orbits.

Notice the inaccurate and misleading translation by Khalifa.Not only is This


inaccurate, but it does not make sense as Galaxies do not orbit anything.

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Surah 81:15-16 Khalifa

“I solemnly swear by the galaxies,


precisely running in their orbits.”
Surah 81:15-16 Khalifa

Khalifa dishonestly translates the


Arabic word for “Planet” as
“Galaxy.”
Not only, do the other 11
translations contradict him, but his
translation does not make sense.
Galaxies do not orbit anything.
Also, the concept of a Galaxy is
unknown in the Koran.

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Surah 81:15-16 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “No! I swear by the slinkers, the runners, the sinkers.”


Palmer “I need not swear by the stars that slink back, moving swiftly,
slinking into their dens!”
Rodwell “It needs not that I swear by the stars of retrograde motions
which move swiftly and hide themselves away.”
Sale “Verily I swear by the stars which are retrograde, which move
swiftly, [and] which hide themselves.”
Irving “So I swear by the planets moving, sweeping along,and night
as it draws on.”
Dawood “I swear by the turning planets and by the stars that rise
and set.”

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Response to Claim 18 (Surah 81:15-16)

1. Nowhere in this verse or any other in the Koran does it actually say
that the Earth or other Planets orbit the Sun.
2. From the other translations, the most likely meaning of these
verses is that they refer to the apparent retrograde motion of
Planets in the night Sky which was known from Ancient times.
3. An alternative meaning may be that the verses refer to the Planets
apparently leaving the Sky during the daytime only to reappear the
following night.
4. The Khalifa interpretation of the verses alluding to Galaxies is not
an accurate translation, since it is contradicted by 11 other
translations.
5. The Koran is merely referring to apparent retrograde planetary
motion or the apparent disappearance of the Planets during the
daytime.

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Apparent Retrograde Motion of the
Planet Mars

This is a composite photograph of the position of Mars in the Sky at the


same time every night over a period of weeks.
The position of the Planet moves a little more to the left every night, but
then it temporarily moves backwards before resuming it normal motion.

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Retrograde Motion of the Planet
Mars
In reality, retrograde motion
is an illusion caused by
the motion of the Earth
relative to Planets such as
Mars that have larger orbits.
As Earth overtakes Mars
(or other outer Planets) the
illusion of retrograde motion
occurs.The author of the
Koran seems to think that
retrograde motion is real.

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The Ancient Egyptians knew about the
retrograde motion of Mars

The Ancient Egyptians referred to Mars as “Sekded ef em khetkhet”


(“He who loops the loop”)

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Claim 18 - Conclusion
1. Surah 81:15-16 does not make any reference to the Solar System or Planets
orbiting the Sun.
2. The concept of a Solar System is not in the Koran or in Medieval Islam.
3. Surah 81:15-16 is only describing the movements of objects in the night
Sky.These were known thousands of years before Mohammed and can be
seen with the naked eye.
4. Believing that the retrograde movement of Planets was real shows that the
author of the Koran did not know about Heliocentric Cosmology.
5. The Khalifa translation is corrupt and not accurate.Creating this translation
was probably one of the reasons why Khalifa was murdered by Muslim
extremists.No Muslims ever conceived of the idea of a Galaxy before the
C20th.
6. This is yet another example of Islamic Fundamentalists misinterpreting the
Koran in an attempt to prove their beliefs.

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Claim 19 – The existence of Gravity
was referred to in the Koran

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Claim 19 Gravity foretold in Koran

“God is the one who raised the


Heavens without any pillars you
can see, then he firmly established
himself on the throne & he
subjected the Sun & the Moon .. .”
Surah 13:2

“God created the Heavens


without any pillars you can see”
Surah 31:10

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Claim 19 Gravity foretold in Koran
1. According to some Muslims Surah 13:2 & 31:10 poetically
describes gravity over 1000 years before Newton as “unseen
pillars.”
2. The pillars that cannot be seen are said to be the force of Gravity
that keep Heavenly bodies in their orbits.
3. How, we are asked could Mohammed, a simple and uneducated
man have possibly known about such advanced scientific ideas
unless he received them from God 1400 years ago?
4. Some Muslims conclude from this that these verses prove the
Divine origin of the Koran and the truth of Islam.
5. As with other similar claims, we are urged to accept the truth of
Islam and convert (or “revert”) to Islam, the only true religion.

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Allah it is who raised up the Heavens without visible supports
… and compelled the Sun and the Moon to be of service.”
Yusuf Ali “God is we who raised the Heavens without any pillars that ye
can see … he has subjected the Sun and the Moon (to his Law)!”
Hilali-Khan “Allah is we who raised the Heavens without any pillars that
you can see … he has subjected the Sun and the Moon (to continue
going round)!”
Shakir “Allah is we who raised the Heavens without any pillars that you
see … and he made the Sun and the Moon subservient. (to you)”
Sher Ali “Allah is he who raised up the Heavens without any pillars that
you can see …and he pressed the Sun and the Moon into your service.”
Khalifa “God is the one who raised the Heavens without pillars that you
can see … he committed the Sun and the Moon, each running (in its
orbit) for a predetermined period.”

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Surah 13:2 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “God is he who raised up the Heavens without pillars you can see ….
He subjected the Sun & the Moon, each one running to a term stated.”
Palmer “God it is who has raised the Heavens without columns that ye can
see …. & subjected the Sun & the Moon; each one runs on to a stated and
appointed time.”
Rodwell “It is God who hath reared the Heavens without pillars thou canst
behold; …. & imposed laws on the Sun & Moon: each travelleth to its
appointed goal.”
Sale “[It is] God who hath raised the Heavens without visible pillars; …. &
compelled the Sun & the Moon to perform their services: Every [of the
heavenly bodies] runneth an appointed course.“
Irving “God is the one who has raised up the Heavens without any support
you can see.… and regulated the sun and moon; each runs along on a
specific course
Dawood “It was God who raised the Heavens without visible pillars …. &
pressed the Sun and Moon into his service, each pursuing an appointed
course.”
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Surah 31:10 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “He hath created the Heavens without supports that ye can see,
and hath cast into the Earth firm hills, so that it quake not with you.”
Yusuf Ali “He created the Heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He
set on the Earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you.”
Hilali-Khan “He has created the Heavens without any pillars, that you see
and has set on the Earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you.”
Shakir “He created the Heavens without pillars as you see them, and put
mountains upon the Earth lest it might convulse with you.”
Sher Ali “He has created the Heavens without any pillars that you can
see, and he has placed in the Earth firm mountains that it may not quake
with you.”
Khalifa “He created the Heavens without pillars that you can see. He
established on Earth stabilizers (mountains) lest it tumbles with you.”

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Surah 31:10 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “He created the Heavens without pillars you can see, and He
cast on the Earth firm mountains, lest it shake with you.”
Palmer “He created the Heavens without pillars that ye can see, and He
threw upon the Earth firm mountains lest it should move with you.”
Rodwell “Without pillars that can be seen hath He created the Heavens,
and on the Earth hath thrown mountains lest it should move with you.”
Sale “He hath created the Heavens without visible pillars [to sustain
them], and hath thrown on the Earth [mountains] firmly rooted, lest it
should move with you.”
Irving “He has created the Heavens without any visible support. He has
cast headlands on the Earth lest it sway with you.”
Dawood “He raised the Heavens without any visible pillars & set firm
mountains on the Earth lest it should shake with you.”

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Response to Claim 19 (Surah 13:2/31:10)

1. How is it that Medieval Muslims never discovered Gravity before


Newton if it is in the Koran? Did Muslims misunderstand the
Koran for centuries?
2. Various translations of these verses indicate that they refer to the
Sky overhead and not the Universe in general.
3. These verses refer to the Sky being lifted up above the Earth
when God created the Universe.
4. These verses do not deny the existence of pillars or say that they
are invisible.They say that the pillars that hold up the Sky are
hidden so as not to be seen.
5. The idea of the Sky being lifted up is common in many Ancient
Mythologies.

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Pillars of the Sky (Surah 13:2/31:10)

In the time of Mohammed


& for centuries before his
Pillars were used to hold up
the roof in large buildings.

The Koran describes the


Sky as being a roof,
canopy or dome held up
“And we have made the sky a roof by pillars that are hidden.
withheld (from them). Yet they
turn away from its portents.” Surah 2:22 /21:32 /40:64
Surah 21:32 (Pickthall)

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Mesopotamian Cosmos

In the Cosmology of Ancient Mesopotamia, the Sky was held up by pillars


that could not be seen. (See Item 11) The reason why they could not
be seen was because they were underwater.

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Biblical Cosmos

In the Bible, the Sky is also held up by unseen pillars.They are usually
described as the pillars or foundations of the Sky or Heaven. (See Item 16)

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The Cosmos of the Koran

It seems that the Koran has a similar concept of the Universe to that of
Ancient Mesopotamia & the Bible.The reason for the Pillars of the Sky
being unseen is because they are hidden underwater. (See Item 11)

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Claim 19 - Conclusion
1. There is no explicit reference to Gravity in Surah 13:2, 31:10 or anywhere
else in the Koran.
2. The Koran does not say that there are no pillars. It says that they exist but
that they are unseen or hidden.
3. The pillars referred to are most likely literal and unseen due to them being
hidden out of sight.
4. Such ideas were widespread in the Ancient World thousands of years
before Mohammed.
5. The verses do not show any advanced Scientific knowledge.In fact, they
show the opposite and are an example of a scientific error in the Koran.

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Claim 20 – More Gravity

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Claim 20 Gravity mentioned in the Koran

“Did we not make the Earth


a receptacle?” Surah 77:25

According to some Islamic


Fundamentalists, this verse is
supposed to be a reference to
the force of gravity holding,
everything On Earth securely
on the ground

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_95.html

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Claim 20 Gravity foretold in Koran
1. According to some Muslims Surah 77:25 poetically describes gravity
over 1000 years before Newton.
2. Due to Gravity, the Earth holds or contains everything on it securely.
3. How, we are asked could Mohammed, a simple and uneducated man
have possibly known about such advanced scientific ideas unless he
received them from God 1400 years ago?
4. Some Muslims conclude from this that these verses prove the Divine
origin of the Koran and the truth of Islam.
5. As with other similar claims, we are urged to accept the truth of Islam
and convert (or “revert”) to Islam, the only true religion.

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Surah 77:25-26 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “Have we not made the Earth a receptacle,both for the living
and the dead.”
Yusuf Ali “Have we not made the Earth (as a place) to draw
together,the living and the dead.”
Hilali-Khan “Have we not made the Earth a receptacle for the living
and the dead?”
Shakir “Have we not made the Earth to draw together to itself, the
living and the dead.”
Sher Ali “Have we not made the Earth so as to hold the living and the
dead? .”
Khalifa “Did we not make the Earth an abode for the living and the
dead?”

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Surah 77:25-26 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “Made We not the Earth to be a housing for the living and
for the dead?”
Palmer “Have we not made for them the Earth to hold the living and
the dead? .”
Rodwell “Have we not made the Earth to hold The living and the
dead?”
Sale Have we not made the Earth to contain the living and the
dead.“
Irving “Have We not placed the Earth as a round up for the living
and the dead?”
Dawood “Have we not made the Earth a home for the living and the
dead?”

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Response to Claim 20 (Surah 77:25)

1. There is no mention of Gravity in any translation of this verse.

2. All that the verse says is that God made the Earth as a home for the
living and the dead.There is nothing remarkable about this
statement.

3. This verse is merely saying that the Earths surface is for the living
and that underground is for the dead.

4. The reference to the Earth containing the dead may simply refer to
the burial of the dead or it may refer to Hell being underground.

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Surah 77:25 A Container Universe

This verse of the Koran


Sky is like a roof describes the Earth as a
home for the living & the
dead.
Flat Earth like a floor This may refer to the Earth
being flat like the floor of
a house and the Sky being
like the roof of a house.
Hell Only on a Flat Earth, are
being “on” The Earth &
being “in” the Earth
synonymous.

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Claim 20 - Conclusion
1. There is no explicit reference to Gravity in Surah 77:25 or anywhere
else in the Koran.This is a very weak argument.
2. All that Surah 77:25 says is that Earth was made as a home for the
living and the dead.This statement is not at all miraculous in any
way.
3. There are hints in this verse that people on the Earths surface are
“in” the Earth as well as being “on” the Earth.This only makes sense
on a Flat Earth.
4. Surah 77:25 makes no reference at all to gravity and so this alleged
Scientific Miracle is yet another fraud by Islamic Fundamentalists.

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Claim 21 – Extra-Solar Planets

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Claim 21 Extra-Solar Planets

"God is the One Who created


seven Heavens and of the Earth
a similar number. The Command
descends among them so that you
know that God has power over all
things and comprehends all things
in His knowledge."
Surah 65:12 Bucaille

Left: Evidence of planets orbiting


the Star Beta Pictoris.

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Claim 21 Extra-solar Planets
1. In recent years, Astronomers have detected planets in orbit around
nearby Stars.Some Muslims claim that this was miraculously
predicted 1400 years ago in the Koran. (Surah 65:12 )
2. It is further claimed that Surah 65:12 alludes to the Copernican idea
that Stars are Suns like our own and that each has Planets
including some like the Earth in orbit, all 900 years before
Copernicus.
3. It is claimed that this refutes the erroneous geocentric Cosmology of
Ptolemy that was prevalent in the time of Mohammed and that such
advanced Scientific knowledge can only have come from God.
4. All this Scientific knowledge, centuries ahead of its time is said to
prove the Divine origin of the Koran and the truth of the religion of
Islam.
5. However, if we check the Hadith, it becomes apparent that the
“Seven Earths” really refer to.

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Surah 65:12 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “Allah “it is who hath created seven Heavens, and of the Earth
the like thereof.
Yusuf Ali “God is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the Earth a
similar number.”
Hilali-Khan “It is Allah Who has created seven Heavens and of the Earth
the like thereof (i.e. seven).”
Shakir “Allah is He Who created seven Heavens, and of the Earth the
like of them.”
Sher Ali “Allah is he who created seven Heavens, and of the Earth the
like thereof.”
Khalifa “God created seven Universes and the same number of Earths.”

Another dishonest and inaccurate translation by Khalifa. The other 11


contradict him. translations
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Surah 65:12 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “It is God who created seven Heavens, and of Earth their
like.“
Palmer “God it is who created seven heavens, and of the earth the
like thereof.”
Rodwell “It is God who hath created seven Heavens and as many
Earths.” Sale “[It is] God who hath created seven Heavens, and as
many [different stories] of the Earth.”
Irving “God is the One Who created seven Heavens, and the same
[number of planets] which are like the Earth.”
Dawood “It is God who has created seven Heavens and Earths as
many.”

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Response to Claim 21 (Surah 65:12)

1. There is no explicit mention of extra-solar Planets in this or any other verse in


the Koran.
2. If we check the Hadith, it becomes apparent that the “Seven Earths” really
refer to – seven layers of Hell under the Earths surface.
3. The “Seven Earths” or Seven Hells are similar to that in other ancient
Mythologies and resemble Hell in Dante’s Divine Comedy.
4. The belief in “Seven Earths” beneath our feet is ultimately derived from the
writings of other Ancient Religions in the Middle East and possibly India.

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Seven Earths or levels of Hell below us.

Al-Tirmidhi 5735
Narrated by Abu Hurayrah
He (Mohammed) then asked, "Do you know what is below you?" On
their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him)
knew best, he said, "It is the earth." He then asked, "Do you know
what is under that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger
(peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "Under it there is another
Earth with a journey of five hundred years between them," and so on
till he had counted seven earths with a journey of five hundred years
between each pair. He then said, "By Him in Whose hand
Muhammad's soul is, if you were to drop a rope to the lowest earth it
would not pass out of Allah's knowledge."

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Hell is under the Earths surface

Earth
According to
Al-Tirmidhi,
Mohammed explicitly
stated that seven
Earths or levels
of Hell are a place
Hell (Seven Earths) under the
Earths surface.

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Seven Earths = Seven Hells
Flat Earth

The Seven Earths


have nothing to do
Seven with extra-solar
1
planets. They refer
2 Hells to the seven levels
3 of the Islamic Hell
under which supposedly
4
5 exist underground.
the
6
7 Earth

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Medieval Christian
Hell with multiple
levels.

In the Middle Ages, Christians


also believed in a multi-level
Hell where sinners were
tormented.

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Surah 65:12 Seven Levels of Hell

The Koran seems to refer to Hell having


seven layers. This is a similar concept
to that in Dante’s Divine Comedy.

Indeed, Dante may have been


influenced by the Koran.

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Seven layer Hell under the Earth
Al-Bukhari Volume 3 Book 43 Number 632:
Narrated Said bin Zaid:
Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever usurps the land of somebody unjustly, his neck
will be encircled with it down the seven earths (on the Day of Resurrection). "

Al-Bukhari Volume 3 Book 43 Number 633:


Narrated Abu Salama:
That there was a dispute between him and some people (about a piece of
land). When he told 'Aisha about it, she said, "O Abu Salama! Avoid taking
the land unjustly, for the Prophet said, 'Whoever usurps even one span of
the land of somebody, his neck will be encircled with it down the seven
earths."
Al-Bukhari Volume 3 Book 43 Number 634:
Narrated Salim's father (i.e. 'Abdullah):
The Prophet said, "Whoever takes a piece of the land of others unjustly, he
will sink down the seven earths on the Day of Resurrection."

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Seven layer Hell under the Earth
Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 417:
Narrated Muhammad bin Ibrahim bin Al-Harith:
from Abu Salama bin 'Abdur-Rahman who had a dispute with some people on
a piece of land, and so he went to 'Aisha and told her about it. She said, "O
Abu Salama, avoid the land, for Allah's Apostle said, 'Any person who takes
even a span of land unjustly, his neck shall be encircled with it down seven
earths.' "
Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 418:
Narrated Salim's father:
The Prophet said, "Any person who takes a piece of land unjustly will sink
down the seven earths on the Day of Resurrection."
Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 420:
Narrated Said bin Zaid bin Amr bin Nufail:
That Arwa sued him before Marwan for a right, which she claimed, he had
deprived her of. On that Said said, "How should I deprive her of her right? I
testify that I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'If anyone takes a span of land
unjustly, his neck will be encircled with it down seven earths on the Day of
Resurrection."
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Buddhist Hells
The idea of a multi layered
Underworld where the
wicked were punished
was known in India many
centuries before Jesus
or Mohammed lived.

Flat Earth

Multi-layered
Underworld

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Response to Claim 21 (Surah 65:12)

1. If this claim is correct, then why did Muslims not predict extra-solar
planets hundreds of years ago before Copernicus.

2. According to the Hadith that the Seven Earths refer to Hell and not
Alien Planets.

3. This claim is complete nonsense and is based on wishful thinking


and taking verses from the Koran out of context.

4. The non-existence of seven Earths or layers of a Hell is yet another


Scientific Error in the Koran which disproves its supposed Divine
origin.

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Claim 22 – The Koran refers to the
Suns motion around the Galaxy & its
rotation on its axis

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Claim 22 Suns motion around Galaxy
and upon its axis

Surah 21:33 &


Surah 36:40 Bucaille
(See next slide)

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Claim 22 Suns motion around Galaxy
and upon its axis

"(God is) the One Who created the night, the day, the Sun and
the Moon. Each one is traveling in an orbit with its own motion."
Surah 21:33 Bucaille

"The Sun must not catch up the Moon, nor does the night outstrip
the day. Each one is traveling in an orbit with its own motion."
Surah 36:40 Bucaille

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Claim 22 Suns motion around Galaxy
and upon its axis
1. This claim is that the Koran predicted two modern
Astronomical discoveries 1300 years before modern Science.

2. Firstly, the Suns orbit around the our Galaxy which occurs
once every 200 million years or so & secondly, the fact that
the Sun rotates on its axis approximately once per month.

3. This is said to prove the Korans Divine origin, since people


living 1400 years ago could not have known such things.

4. As in the case of other supposed Scientific Miracles,


proponents of this argument urge us to reflect on this
“miracle” and urge us to convert (or “revert”) to Islam.

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Surah 21:33 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “And he it is who created the night and the day, and the Sun
and the Moon. They float, each in an orbit.”
Yusuf Ali “It is he who created the night and the day, and the Sun and
the Moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded
course.”
Hilali-Khan “And he it is who has created the night and the day, and the
Sun and the Moon, each in an orbit floating.”
Shakir “And he it is who created the night and the day and the Sun and
the Moon; all (orbs) travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres.”
Sher Ali “And he it is who created the night and the day, and the Sun
and the Moon, each gliding along smoothly in its orbit.”
Khalifa “And he is the one who created the night and the day, and the
Sun and the Moon; each floating in its own orbit.”

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Surah 21:33 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “It is he who created the night and the day, the Sun and the
Moon, each swimming in a sky.”
Palmer “He it is who created the night and the day, and the Sun and
the Moon, each floating in a sky.”
Rodwell “And he it is who hath created the night and the day, and the
Sun and the Moon, each moving swiftly in its sphere”.
Sale “It is he who hath created the night, and the day, and the Sun,
and the Moon; all [the celestial bodies] move swiftly, [each] in [its
respective] orb.”
Irving “He is the One Who has created night and daylight, and the
sun and the moon; each floats along in an orbit.”
Dawood “It was he who created the night and the day, the Sun and
the Moon:each moves swiftly in an orbit of its qwn.”

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Surah 36:40 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon, nor doth the night
outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.”
Yusuf Ali “It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the
Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit
(according to Law).”
Hilali-Khan “It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon, nor does the night
outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit.”
Shakir Neither is it allowable to the Sun that it should overtake the Moon,
nor can the night outstrip the day; and all float on in a sphere.”
Sher Ali “It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon, nor can the night
outstrip the day. All of them float smoothly in an orbit.”
Khalifa “The Sun is never to catch up with the Moon - the night and the
day never deviate - each of them is floating in its own orbit.”

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Surah 36:40 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “It behoves not the Sun to overtake the Moon, neither does
the night outstrip the day, each swimming in a sky”.
Palmer “Neither is it proper for it (the Sun) to catch up the Moon, nor
for the night to outstrip the day, but each one floats on in its sky.”
Rodwell “To the Sun it is not given to overtake the Moon, nor doth the
night outstrip the day; but each in its own sphere doth journey on.”
Sale “It is not expedient that the Sun should overtake the Moon [in
her course]; neither doth the night outstrip the day: But each [of these
luminaries] moveth in a [peculiar] orbit.”
Irving “The Sun dare not overtake the Moon nor does night outpace
the day. Each floats along in its own orbit.
Dawood “The Sun is not allowed to overtake the Moon nor does the
night outpace the day.Each in its own orbit swims,”

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Response to Claim 22 (Surah 21:33/36:40)
1. If this claim is correct, then why did Muslims not predict the Suns orbit of
the Galaxy hundreds of years ago?
2. There is no reference to the Galaxy in these verses or any other verses in
the Koran.The concept of a Galaxy is unknown in the Koran.
3. There are no references to the Sun rotating on its axis in the Koran.
4. These verses imply that the Sun and Moon have similar orbits associated
with the passage of night and day.
5. The motion of the Sun is actually referring to a belief in Geocentric
Cosmology with the Sun & Moon moving relative to a stationary Earth.
6. The existence of such Scientific errors in the Koran disproves its alleged
Divine origin.

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Copernicus & Ptolemy
For most of Human History, it was believed
that the Earth was stationary at the centre of
the Universe & that the Sun was just a little
light that moved across the Sky.
This incorrect Geocentric view was
Ptolemy (AD90 - 168)
popularised by the Ancient Greek writer
Ptolemy.

Copernicus first proposed the correct modern


view that the Earth orbits the Sun & not
Vice-verse.

However, the Koran wrongly agrees with


Copernicus Ptolemy when it describes the Sun moving &
(AD1473 -1543) not the Earth.
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Surah 21:33 Sun and Moon above Earth

This verse makes


no reference to
the Milky Way
Galaxy. Such as
concept is not
known in the
Koran.

This is what this


verse & others like
it are really
referring to.

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Suns movement literal before
Copernicus

When the Koran speaks


of the Sun rising and
setting, it means this
literally and not
figuratively.

Before Copernicus,
when people used
terms like “Sunrise” &
“Sunset”, they meant
Them literally.

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Claim 22 (Surah 21:33/36:40) - Conclusion
1. Nowhere in the Koran are there explicit references to the Sun orbiting the
Galaxy or rotating on its axis.

2. Before Copernicus, the Suns orbit referred to it supposedly orbiting the Earth.

3. Such ideas were prevalent during the time of Mohammed and reflect
contemporary views rather than divine revelation.

4. The presence of such erroneous Astronomical views demonstrate that the


Koran is a human inspired book.

5. Far from supporting the Korans supposed divine origin Surah 21:33 & 36:40
refute this claim.

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Claim 23 – The Koran refers to the Sun
moving toward the Constellation of Lyra

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Claim 23 Sun moving towards
Constellation Lyra
"The Sun runs its course to a
settled place. This is the
decree of the All Mighty,
the full of Knowledge.“

Surah 36:38 Bucaille


& Harun Yahya

According to this claim,


Surah 36:38 is an example
Recently, it has been discovered of a Scientific Miracle in the
that the Solar System is moving Koran which proves the truth
towards the Constellation Lyra. of Islam.

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Surah 36:38 Checking the translation 1

Pickthall “And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is
the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.”
Yusuf Ali “And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him:
that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing.”
Hilali-Khan ”And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed).
That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing.”
Shakir “And the sun runs on to a term appointed for it; that is the
ordinance of the Mighty, the Knowing.”
Sher Ali “And the sun is moving on to its determined goal. That is the
Khalifa “The sun sets into a specific location, according to the design of
the Almighty, the Omniscient.”

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Surah 36:38 Checking the translation 2

Arberry “And the sun -- it runs to a fixed resting-place; that is the


ordaining of the All-mighty, the All-knowing.”
Palmer “And the sun runs on to a place of rest for it; that is the
Rodwell “And the Sun hasteneth to her place of rest. This, the
ordinance of the Mighty, the Knowing!”
Sale “And the sun hasteneth to his place of rest. This [is] the
disposition of the mighty, the wise [God].”
Irving “The sun runs along on a course of its own. Such is the design
of the Powerful, the Aware!”
Dawood “The Sun hastens to its resting place:Its course is laid for it
by the Mighty One, the All Knowing.”

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Response to Claim 23 (Surah 36:38)
1. Surah 36:38 does not mention the Constellation Lyra or any other
location in Outer Space.
2. Reading multiple translations shows that the reference Suns
movement is describing the apparent motion of the Sun across the
Sky during the hours of daylight.The Koran does not know that this
apparent motion is not real & that it is due to the Earths rotation.
3. The resting place of the Sun is not in Lyra.It is the location on the
horizon where the Sun appears to set.Surah 18:85-86 describes the
Sun going underwater to its resting place.
4. Surah 36:38 is saying that at night the Sun leaves the Sky and goes
somewhere else.This implies a flat stationary Earth.
5. See the following slides for more on the resting place of the Sun.

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Surah 18:85-86 The Sun going to its
resting place.

The Sun sets


in a muddy pool
of water in the
West.

The Koran
describes this
as being a
specific place
that people
can go to

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Surah 18:85-86 Resting place of the Sun.
Pickthall “And he followed a road till, when he reached the setting-place of
the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring.”
Yusuf Ali “One (such) way he followed, until, when he reached the setting
of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water.”
Hilali-Khan “So he followed a way. until, when he reached the setting
place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot)
water.
Shakir “So he followed a course. until when he reached the place where
the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea.”
Sher Ali “The he followed a certain way. until when he reached the
setting-place of the sun, he found it setting as if in a pool of murky water.”
Khalifa “Then, he pursued one way. When he reached the far west, he
found the sun setting in a vast ocean.”

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Surah 18:85-86 Continued
Arberry “Then he followed a way until, when he reached the setting of the
sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring
Palmer “Then he followed a way until when he reached the setting of the
sun, he found it setting in a black muddy spring
Rodwell ”Then followed he a route,until when he reached the setting of
the sun, he found it to set in a miry fount
Sale “Then he continued [his] way until he came to the place where the
sun setteth; [and] he found it to set in a spring of black mud
Irving “So he followed a [certain] course until when he reached the place
where the sun sets, he found it setting in a mucky spring.”
Dawood “He journeyed on a certain road until he reached the West and
saw the Sun setting in a pool of black mud.”

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Allah on his Where does the
throne up
in Heaven Sun go at night?

According to the Hadith,


at night, the Sun leaves
the Sky and prostrates
itself in its resting place
beneath the throne
Earth of Allah.
West East
Later on, just before dawn,
it leaves and then rises in
the East.

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Where does the Sun go at night?
(Al-Bukhari)
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes
(at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better."
He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the
Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and
then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its
prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its
course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return
whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the
interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun runs its fixed
course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The
Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)
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Where does the Sun go at night?
(Al-Bukhari)

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 528:


Narrated Abu Dharr:
I asked the Prophet regarding the Verse:--'And the sun runs on its
fixed course for a term decreed for it.' (36.28) He said, "Its fixed
course is underneath Allah's Throne."

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Where does the Sun go at night?
(Sahih Muslim)
Book 001, Number 0297:
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (may
peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They
replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily
it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls
prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence
you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and
then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and
remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you
came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such
a normal way) that the people do not discern anything ( unusual in it) till it reaches
its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and
emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its
setting. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. Do you know
when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one
who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith.
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Where does the Sun go at night?
(Sahih Muslim)
Book 001, Number 0299:
Abu Dharr reported: I entered the mosque and the Messenger of Allah (may
peace be upon him) was sitting there. When the sun disappeared (from the
sight) he said: O Abu Dharr! Do you know where it goes? He (the narrator)
said: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) said. Verily it
goes and begs permission, for prostration (to Allah) and the permission is
granted to it. Once it would be said: Return to the place whence you came,
and then it would rise from its setting place. Then he, after the recitation of
'Abdullah recited it: And that is its appointed term.

Book 001, Number 0300:


Abu Dharr reported: I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon
him) the (implication of the) words of Allah, the Exalted: The sun glides to its
appointed resting place. He replied: Its appointed resting place is under the
Throne.

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Claim 23 (Surah 36:38) - Conclusion
1. References in the Koran and Hadith make it clear that when the Koran
mentions the Suns motion, it is wrongly assuming Geocentric
Cosmology with the Sun literally moving above a stationary Earth.

2. The resting place of the Sun is beneath the throne of God.It gets there
by coming down from the Sky at night and going underwater.From
there, gets above the Sky dome and goes up to Heaven.

3. Such absurd ideas prove that the Koran is a human book with the
limited knowledge of Mohammed and his contemporaries.

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Claim 24 – The Koran says that
the Moon shines by reflected light

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Claim 24 Moon shines by reflected light &
the phases of the Moon

"Blessed is the One


Who placed the
constellations in heaven
& placed therein a lamp
& a moon giving light."

Surah 25:61 Bucaille


& Harun Yahya

Also, Surah 71:15-16,


Surah 78:12-13

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Claim 24 Moon shines by reflected
light unlike the Sun
“Blessed be He Who hath placed in the Heaven mansions of
the Stars, & hath placed therein a great lamp & a Moon
giving light!” Surah 25:61 Pickthall
“See ye not how Allah hath created seven heavens in harmony
& hath made the Moon a light therein, & made the Sun a lamp?”
Surah 71:15-16 Pickthall

According to this claim, the Sun is described as a lamp, an object


that creates light, while the Moon is merely described as a light,
implying that its light is different in nature since it is merely reflected.
Lamp = Source of light. Light = Reflected light

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Claim 24 Moon shines by reflected light
1. According to some Muslims, the Koran refers to the Moon as
shining by reflected light rather than by light of its own
centuries before modern Science discovered this.

2. The claim is that “Lamp” = Source of light but that “Light” =


Reflected light.

3. This advanced Scientific knowledge is said to be further proof


that the Koran contains information from God that
Mohammed or anyone else in the C7th could have known.

4. As with other similar examples, we are supposed to reflect on


this and “revert” to Islam in the light of such compelling
evidence.

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Surah 25:61 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Blessed be he who hath placed in the Heaven mansions of the
Stars, and hath placed therein a great lamp and a Moon giving light!”
Yusuf Ali “Blessed is he who made constellations in the Skies, and
placed therein a lamp and a Moon giving light”
Hilali Khan “Blessed be he who has placed in the Heaven big Stars, and
has placed therein a great lamp (Sun), and a Moon giving light.”
Shakir “Blessed is he who made the constellations in the Heavens and
made therein a lamp and a shining Moon.”
Sher Ali “Blessed is he who has made in the Heaven mansions of Stars
and has placed therein a lamp producing light and a Moon that reflects
light.”
Khalifa “Most blessed is the one who placed constellations in the Sky,
and placed in it a lamp, and a shining Moon.”

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Surah 25:61 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “Blessed be he who has set in Heaven constellations, and has
set among them a lamp, and an illuminating Moon.”
Palmer “Blessed be he who placed in the Heavens zodiacal signs, and
placed therein the lamp and an illuminating Moon!”
Rodwell “Blessed be he who hath placed in the Heaven the sign of the
Zodiac! who hath placed in it the lamp of the Sun, and the light-giving
Moon!”
Sale “Blessed be he who hath placed [the twelve] signs in the
Heavens; and hath placed therein a lamp [by day], and the Moon which
shineth [by night]!”
Irving “Blessed is the one who has placed constellations in the Sky and
set a beacon in it, plus a shining Moon!”
Dawood “Blessed be he who decked the Sky with constellations and
set in it a lamp and a shining Moon.”

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Surah 71:15-16 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “See ye not how Allah hath created seven Heavens in harmony, &
hath made the Moon a light therein, & made the Sun a lamp?”
Yusuf Ali “See ye not how God has created the seven Heavens one above
another, & made the Moon a light in their midst, & made the Sun as a
(Glorious) lamp?”
Hilali-Khan “See you not how Allah has created the seven Heavens one
above another, & has made the Moon a light therein, & made the Sun a
lamp?”
Shakir “Do you not see how Allah has created the seven Heavens, one
above another & made the Moon therein a light, & made the Sun a lamp?”
Sher Ali “See you not how Allah has created seven Heavens in perfect
harmony, & has placed the Moon, therein a light, & made the Hun a lamp?”
Khalifa “Do you not realize that God created seven Universes in layers?
He designed the Moon therein to be a light, & placed the Sun to be a lamp.”

Notice the biased & inaccurate Khalifa translation which is contradicted by


The other 11 translations & which does not make sense.”
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Surah 71:15-16 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “Have you not regarded how God created seven Heavens one upon
another, and set the Moon therein for a light and the Sun for a lamp?”
Palmer “Do ye not see how God has created the seven Heavens in stories,
and has set the Moon therein for a light, and set the Sun for a lamp?”
Rodwell “See ye not how God hath created the seven Heavens one over
the other? And He hath placed therein the Moon as a light, and hath placed
there the Sun as a torch.”
Sale “Do ye not see how God hath created the seven Heavens, one above
another; and hath placed the Moon therein for a light, and hath appointed
the Sun for a taper?”
Irving “Have you not (all) considered how God created seven matching
Heavens? He has set the Moon as a light among them, and set the Sun up
as a source of light.”
Dawood “Can you not see how God created the seven Heavens, one above
the other, placing in them the Moon for a light & the Sun for a lantern.”

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Response to Claim 24 (Surah 25:61 )
1. The fact that the moon shines by reflected light was known in
Ancient times.
2. The Ancient Greek Philosophers Anaxagoras (500 BC – 428 BC) &
Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC) both knew that the Moon shone by
reflected light and understood the phases of the Moon.
3. There is nothing remarkable about the Koran apparently referring to
this 1000 years later.
4. It is unclear if the author of the Koran actually knows that that the
Moon shines by reflected light.The terms “lamp” and “light” are
used interchangeably in the Koran.
5. Surah 33:45-46 and 24:35 suggests that the Koran does not
distinguish between light emitted from a source and reflected light.

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Anaxagoras – Moon
shines by reflected light

Around 500 BC, the Ancient Greek


Philosopher Anaxagoras proposed the
Anaxagoras idea that the Moon was a large rock
(500 BC – that shone by reflected sunlight.
428 BC)
He argued that this was true since the
Moon was dark during a lunar eclipse.

The Athenians imprisoned him for


blasphemy since they thought that the
Moon was a God.

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Aristotle – Moon
Aristotle
(384 BC – shines by reflected
322 BC)
light
Aristotle also knew that the Moon
shines by reflected sunlight.
One of his proofs that the Earth
is a sphere is that its shadow on
the Moon after an eclipse is
always curved.
(On the Heavens Book 2 Ch 14)
His observation that the Moon
only lights up outside Earths
shadow shows that he knew that
it shone by reflected light.

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The terms “lamp” and “light” in the Koran
“O Prophet! Lo! We have sent thee as a witness and a bringer of good
tidings and a warner. And as a summoner unto Allah by His permission,
and as a lamp that giveth light.” Pickthall 33:45-46

“Allah is the light of the Heavens and the Earth. The similitude of His light
is as a niche wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as
it were a shining star. (This lamp is) kindled from a blessed tree, an olive
neither of the East nor of the West, whose oil would almost glow forth
(of itself) though no fire touched it. Light upon light. Allah guideth unto
His light whom He will. And Allah speaketh to mankind in allegories,
for Allah is Knower of all things.” Pickthall 24:35

These verses show that the words “lamp” and “light” are used
interchangeably. Furthermore if the Koran Science interpretation is
correct then Allah is merely the reflected light of Mohammed.
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Surah 36:39 Phases of the Moon in the
Koran.

According to the
Koran, the Moon
withers each month.
In reality only the
lighting changes.
the Moon itself
is unchanged.
The Koran does not
seem to know the
“And for the Moon We have appointed mansions
true nature of the
till she return like an old shrivelled palm-leaf.”
phases of the Moon.
Surah 36:39 Pickthall

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Surah 36:39 The Moon withers every
month
Pickthall “And for the Moon we have appointed mansions till she return
like an old shrivelled palm-leaf.”
Yusuf Ali “And the Moon, - we have measured for her mansions (to
traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date-
stalk.”
Hilali-Khan “And the Moon, we have measured for it mansions (to
traverse) till it returns like the old dried curved date stalk.”
Shakir “And (as for) the Moon, we have ordained for it stages till it
becomes again as an old dry palm branch.”
Sher Ali “And for the Moon we have appointed stages, till it becomes
again like an old dry twig of a palm-tree.”
Khalifa “The Moon we designed to appear in stages, until it becomes like
an old curved sheath.“

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Surah 36:39 Continued

Arberry “And the Moon -- We have determined it by stations, till it returns


like an aged palm-bough.”
Palmer “And the Moon, we have ordered for it stations, until it comes
again to be like an old dry palm branch.”
Rodwell “And as for the Moon, we have decreed stations for it, till it
change like an old and crooked palm branch.”
Sale “And for the Moon have we appointed [certain] mansions, until she
[change and] return [to be] like the old branch of a palm-tree.”
Irving “And We have designed phases for the Moon so it finally appears
again like an old palm frond.”
Dawood “We have ordained phases for the Moon, which daily wanes
and in the end appears like a bent old twig.”

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Surah 36:39 Mansions of the Moon

Seven Heavens There is no indication


in the Koran that the
Earth is spherical and
rotating.
Mansions of the Moon In order to explain the
disappearance of the
Moon during the
daytime, the Koran
Flat Earth assumes “Mansions”
in the Sky for the Moon
to retreat into

The Koran refers to the moon entering Mansions in the Sky every night. In
Medieval Astronomy, there were 28 Mansions, one for each day of the month
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Claim 24 (Surah 36:39) - Conclusion
1. There is nothing miraculous about somebody 1400 years ago
understanding the phases of the Moon and that it shines by reflected
light.This was known for over 1000 years before Mohammed.

2. The Koran does not explicitly state that the Moon shines by reflected light.

3. The terms “light”and “lamp” are used interchangeably and imply nothing
about light emission or reflection.

4. It is doubtful if the author of the Koran understood the phases of the Moon
or that the Moon shines by reflected light.This cast doubt upon the books
supposed Divine origin.

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Claim 25 – There is Scientific evidence
for Mohammed splitting the Moon

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Claim 25 Moon Split Evidence

“The hour drew nigh & the moon was


rent in twain. And if they behold a
portent they turn away and say:
Prolonged illusion. They denied
(the Truth) and followed their own
lusts. Yet everything will come to
a decision” Surah 54:1-3

Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56,


Number 831: Narrated Anas:
“That the Meccan people requested
Allah's Apostle to show them a
miracle, & so he showed them the
splitting of the moon.”

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Surah 54:1 The
Moon split in two

Left: Traditional Islamic


representation of the
supposed miracle of the
splitting of the Moon over
Mecca.Mohammed (with
face covered) is said
to have performed this
miracle in order to convince
an especially stubborn group
of unbelievers.

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Surah 54:1 Checking the translation
Pickthall “The hour drew nigh and the Moon was rent in twain.”
Yusuf Ali “The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the Moon is cleft asunder.”
Hilali-Khan “The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft
asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad to show
them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the Moon).
Shakir “The hour drew nigh and the Moon did rend asunder.”
Sher Ali “The Hour has drawn nigh, and the Moon is rent asunder.”
Arberry “The Hour has drawn nigh: the Moon is split. “
Palmer “The Hour draws nigh, and the Moon is split asunder.”
Sale “The hour [of judgement] approacheth; and the Moon hath been split
in sunder.”
Irving “The Hour approaches and the Moon is splitting apart.”
Dawood “The hour of doom is drawing near, & the Moon is cleft in two.”

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Surah 54:1-3 Mohammed splits the Moon
1. According to the Koran and Hadith, around the year AD 617,
Mohammed is supposed to have split the Moon in two.

2. Some Muslims claim that this miracle has been verified by the
discovery of huge cracks on the Moon that show where it was
split in two and rejoined.

3. Vague references are sometimes made to American Space


Scientists who are said to have verified this and converted (or
“reverted”) to Islam.

4. This is said to be conclusive proof of a miracle in the Koran and


proof of its Divine origin and the truth of Islam.

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Response to Claim 25 (Surah 54:1 )
1. If the Moon really did split in two and rejoin, how come nobody else
saw it.Such an event would have been seen by millions, yet there
is no record of this happening.
2. Vague stories about an Indian King witnessing this and becoming a
Muslim are vague and have no evidence to substantiate them.They
are just made up stories.
3. There is no geological evidence to support this.The “cracks” are
close up pictures of Rilles or collapsed lava tubes from ancient lava
flows.They are just canyons only a few hundreds of meters deep at
most.The majority are much smaller.
4. Aerial pictures of Canyons on Earth are no proof that the Earth split
in two, so why should Canyons on the Moon be any different?
5. The Moon has been geologically dead for billions of years.If it had
split 1400 years ago, it would have re-accreted and the ancient
impact craters on its surface would have been wiped out.

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Earth split in two?

Left: An aerial view of the


Grand Canyon in Arizona.
This is not taken to be
evidence that the Earth
split in two in the past.

However, canyons on the


Moon are misinterpreted
by Islamic Fundamentalists
as evidence of the Moon
splitting 1400 years ago.

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What would occur if the Moon split?

1 4 The Moon has a


diameter of 2190
miles. Any object
over 300 miles in
2 5 diameter naturally
collapses in on
itself forming sphere
3 due to gravity. That
6
is why there are no
non-spherical
objects.

1 The Moon before splitting. 4 Two smaller Moons move together.


2 Moon split in 2. Both halves collapse. 5 Two smaller Moons crash together.
3 Two smaller Moons formed. 6 A new Moon re-accretes.
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Surah 54:1 The Moon did not split in
two
1. Firstly, there is no actual
record of anyone else on
Earth seeing this supposed
event.
1. Such an event would
produce sufficient debris to
destroy all life on Earth.
3. Such an event would cause
the Moon to re-accrete and
destroy all the surface
features such as craters.

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Surah 54:1 The
Moon split in
two

This cartoon is shows the view


of the Moon that is in the
Koran.If the Moon were
considered as being just a little
light in the sky, then splitting
it would have no consequences
on Earth.

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How are Lunar Rilles really formed?
There is no need to invoke miracles
In order to explain Lunar Rilles.
They can be better explained as the
remains of collapsed Lava Tubes
such as those found on Earth,
although on a larger scale.
The picture on lower the LHS shows
people walking inside a Lava Tube
in Hawaii.
Volcanic Lava Tubes can explain
Lunar Rilles.The Moon has had
no Volcanic activity for 3.2 Billion
years though.

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Lunar Rilles are collapsed Lava Tubes
Ancient Lava Flow
1 2 Lava erodes / melts 3 A Solid Crust forms
3.9 – 3.2 Billion ground underneath as surface of Lava
years ago cools

Moons surface

Lava flows away


4 5 Billions of years of
leaving an empty Lunar Rilles can be
Erosion by meteorites
Lava Tube
destroy the top of the explained by this
Lava Tube perfectly natural
Geological Process.

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Claim 25 (Surah 54:1) - Conclusion
1. There is no evidence of the Moon splitting in two 1400 years ago and lots of
Historical and Scientific evidence to prove that this did not occur.

2. The Moon has been Geologically dead for billions of years. Astronauts have
been there and checked.

3. The “cracks” on the Moon are normal Geological features and the cover only a
small area and do not go around the Moon.

4. We can be confident that the Moon did not split in two and this is yet another
example of a Scientific error in the Koran which proves its human origin.

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Claim 26 – The Koran alludes to
the Star Sirus being a Double-Star

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Claim 26 Sirius double Star

According to this claim, the


Koran predicted that the Star
Sirius was a double Star,
1400 years ago.

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Claim 26 Sirius double Star

“It is He Who is the Lord of


Sirius.”
Surah 53:49 Harun Yahya

“He was two bow-lengths


away or even closer.”
Surah 53:9 Harun Yahya

The reference to “two bows” is said to refer to the two orbits of


Sirius A and Sirius B respectively.Sirius A has been known for
thousands of years, but Sirius B was only discovered in 1862.

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Sirius –
The Dog
Star

Sirius is often called


the “Dog Star” as it
is the brightest Star
in the Constellation
of Canis Major.

It is also the brightest


Star in the Night Sky.

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Claim 26 Sirius double Star
1. This claim is that the Koran predicted that the Star Sirius was in
fact, a Double Star over 1300 years before this was discovered
to be true.

2. It is asked, how Mohammed could have known this, when it was


unknown to the Science of his day?

3. The only explanation, we are told can only be Divine Revelation.

4. This is said to prove that the Koran is from God and therefore
totally true.

5. Following this claim, readers are urged to “revert” to Islam.

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Surah 53:49 Checking the translation
Pickthall “And that he it is who is the lord of Sirius.”
Yusuf Ali “That he is the lord of Sirius. (the Mighty Star)”
Hilali-Khan “And that he (Allah) is the lord of Sirius.(the star which the
pagan Arabs used to worship)”
Shakir “And that he is the lord of the Sirius.”
Sher Ali “And that he is the lord of Sirius.”
Khalifa “He is the lord of the galaxies.”
Arberry “And that it is he who is the Lord of Sirius.”
Palmer “And that he is the lord of the Dog-star.”
Rodwell “And that he is the lord of Sirius.”
Sale “And that he is the lord of the dog-star.”
Irving “He is even lord of the dog star.”
Dawood “He who is the lord of Sirius.”
Notice the inaccurate and misleading translation by Khalifa.The concept of a
Galaxy is nowhere in the Koran.The other 11 translations contradict him.

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Surah 53:7-9 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “When he was on the uppermost horizon. Then he drew nigh and
came down till he was (distant) two bows' length or even nearer.”
Yusuf Ali “While he was in the highest part of the horizon: Then he
approached and came closer and was at a distance of but two bow-
lengths or (even) nearer.”
Hilali-Khan “While he [Jibrael (Gabriel)] was in the highest part of the
horizon, then he [Jibrael (Gabriel)] approached and came closer, and was
at a distance of two bows' length or (even) nearer.”
Shakir “And he is in the highest part of the horizon. Then he drew near,
then he bowed so he was the measure of two bows or closer still.”
Sher Ali “And he revealed his word when he was on the uppermost
horizon. Then the Prophet drew near to Allah; then Allah leaned down
towards him, so that he became, as it were, one chord to two bows, or
closer still.”
Khalifa “At the highest horizon he drew nearer by moving down until he
became as close as possible.”
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Surah 53:7-9 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “Being on the higher horizon, then drew near and suspended
hung, two bows' length away, or nearer.”
Palmer “He being in the loftiest tract. Then drew he near and hovered
o'er! until he was two bows length off or nigher still!”
Rodwell “In the highest part of the horizon: Then came he nearer and
approached, And was at the distance of two bows, or even closer.”
Sale “In the highest part of the horizon. Afterwards he approached [the
prophet], and drew near [unto him]; until he was at the distance of two
bows length [from him], or yet nearer.”
Irving “He soared up and stood, poised at the highest [point on the]
horizon. Then he approached and came right down, and stood two
bow-lengths off or even closer.”
Dawood “He stood on the uppermost horizon, then drawing near, he
came down within two bows length or even closer.”

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Response to Claim 26 (Surah 53:49/53:9 )
1. The Koran does not actually say that Sirius is a Double-Star.
Surah 53:49 merely states that God controls Sirius just like
everything else in the Universe.

2. This is probably a remark aimed at Pagan Arabs who worshiped


the Star Sirius as a Divine being.

3. Surah 53:9 has nothing to do with Sirius. It refers to the Angel


Gabriel approaching Mohammed during one of his revelations
and coming really close.

4. These two verses refer to totally different things and are not
related.Neither contain any Scientific knowledge.

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Surah 53:49 Sirius
Worship condemned

This is the Egyptian Goddess Soptet.


Soptet was the Egyptian name for Sirius
who was thought to be a Goddess.
Many other peoples, including the Pagan
Arabs also worshiped Sirius under
various names.

Surah 53:49 condemns this but it does


not contain any Astronomical
information.

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Surah 53:9 Mohammed & the Angel
Gabriel
According to the Traditional
interpretation Of Surah 53:9,
this is referring to Gabriel
appearing as a giant To
show his true size.

Mohammed is said to Have


fainted with shock and
fear.Gabriel then resumed
a human size and went over
to Mohammed to revive him.

This is unrelated to Sirius.

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Two Bows length?

In Archery, a Bows length


is the distance between
the shaft of the Bow and
the Bowstring.

The Koran seems to be


using the phrase as a
metaphor for a short
distance.

It has nothing to do
with Sirius.

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Claim 26 (Surah 53:49/9) - Conclusion
1. Surah 53 contains no Astronomical information about Sirius.

2. This Claim is based on tasking two unrelated verses out of context


and stretching their interpretation beyond breaking point.

3. This Claim is based on the claimants imagination rather than on


what the Koran actually says.It is totally out of step with the
traditional Muslim interpretation.

4. There is no need to explain how advanced Astronomical information


got into the Koran because it is not there in the first place.

5. The Koran does not say that Sirius is a Double-Star.

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Claim 27 – The Koran mentions
the existence of Pulsars

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Claim 27 Pulsars
“[I swear] by Heaven and the
Tariq! And what will convey to you
what the Tariq is? The Star
piercing [the darkness]!”
Surah 86:1-3
Harun Yahya

“Tariq” is said to mean “Knocker”.

The beam of radio waves that


come from Pulsars are said
to knock and pierce the
darkness.

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Claim 27 Pulsars (Surah 86:1-3)

Pulsars are collapsed Stars that


rotate extremely fast and
send out beams of Radio waves
in regular pulses as they do so.

They were discovered in 1967


by Jocelyn Bell Burnell.

Some Muslims claim that they


are referred to in the Koran
1300 years earlier.

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Claim 27 Pulsars (Surah 86:1-3)
1. This is another example of what some Muslims say is Scientific
foreknowledge in the Koran.It follows the same routine.

2. They argue that Mohammed could not possibly have conceived of ideas
that were not discovered until 1300 years after his death.

3. It is argued that the only possible explanation for such insight is Divine
Revelation.

4. Such Revelation, we are told is proof of the Divine origin of the Koran
and the truth of Islam.

5. We are therefore urged to “revert” to Islam in the face of such


overwhelming evidence.

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Surah 86:1-3 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “By the Heaven and the Morning Star - ah, what will tell thee
what the Morning Star is! - the piercing Star!”
Yusuf Ali “By the Sky and the Night-Visitant (therein); - And what will
explain to thee what the Night-Visitant is? - (It is) the Star of piercing
brightness.”
Hilali-Khan “By the Heaven, and Al-Tariq (the night-comer, i.e. the bright
star); And what will make you to know what Al-Tariq (night-comer) is?
(It is) the star of piercing brightness.”
Shakir “I swear by the Heaven and the comer by night; And what will
make you know what the comer by night is? The star of piercing
brightness.”
Sher Ali “By the Heaven and the Morning Star - and what should make
thee know what the Morning Star is? It is the star of piercing brightness.”
Khalifa “By the Sky and Al-Taareq. Do you know what Al-Taareq is? The
bright star.”
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Surah 86:1-3 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “By Heaven and the night-star! And what shall teach thee what is
the night-star? The piercing star!”
Palmer “By the Heaven and by the night star! And what shall make thee
know what the night star is?- The star of piercing brightness.”
Rodwell “By the Heaven, and by the night comer! But who shall teach
thee what the night-comer is?”
Sale “By the Heaven, and that which appeareth by night: nearer: But what
shall cause thee to understand what that which appeareth by night [is]?
'Tis the star of piercing radiance. [ It is] the star of piercing brightness.”
Irving “By the Sky and the night comer! What will make you realize what
the night comer is? The star shining [before dawn]!”
Dawood “By the Heaven and by the nightly visitant.Would that you know
what the nightly visitant is.It is the Star of piercing brightness.”

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Response to Claim 27 (Surah 86:1-3 )
1. This Surah is very vague and it says noting about Stars
emitting Radio waves.There is no concept of Radio waves in
the Koran.

2. By comparing different translations, it can be seen that “Tariq”


or the “Knocker” is a very bright object that is called both a
morning Star and a Night Star.

3. Such an object corresponds not to a Pulsar, but to the Planet


Venus.In Mohammed's time, the distinction between Stars
and Planets was not clear.

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“Tariq” (Venus) piercing the darkness
with its bright light.

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Claim 27 (Surah 86:1-3) - Conclusion

1. The Koran is vague as to what “Tariq” is, but there is no


evidence that it refers to a Pulsar as there is no mention of
Radio waves.
2. Those who claim that “Tariq = Pulsar “provide no evidence to
support such an assertion.
3. From the description in the Koran, the Planet Venus, is the
most likely candidate to be Tariq, since it is very bright and
appears both before dawn and after dusk.
4. There is no evidence that the Koran makes any reference to
Pulsars or even knows\that they exist.
5. This claim is just wishful thinking by people who are
desperate for Scientific Miracles in the Koran.There is
nothing miraculous in knowing that Venus is very bright in the
Sky.

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Claim 28 – The Koran mentions
the existence of Black Holes

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Claim 28 Black Holes

“When the stars are extinguished.” Surah 77:8 Harun Yahya

“[I swear] by Heaven and the Tariq! And what will convey to you
What the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]!”
Surah 86:1-3 Harun Yahya
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Claim 28 Black Holes (Surah 77:8/86:1-3)
1. This is a further example of what some Muslims say is Scientific
foreknowledge in the Koran.
2. It is claimed that “Tariq” might be a Black Hole.Piercing the
darkness is said to be a reference to a Black Hole punching a hole
in the fabric of Space. (Surah 86:1-3
3. Surah 77:8 is invoked to suggest that “Tariq” is a dead Star in the
form of a Black Hole
4. Black Holes were postulated in 1916 and evidence for their
existence was first observed in 1971.
5. Some say that Mohammed could not possibly have conceived of
ideas that were not discovered until 1300 years after his death.
6. It is argued that the only possible explanation for such insight is
Divine Revelation and the truth of Islam.

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Surah 77:8 Checking the translation
Pickthall “So when the stars are put out.”
Yusuf Ali “Then when the stars become dim.”
Hilali-Khan “Then when the stars lose their lights.”
Shakir “So when the stars are made to lose their light.”
Sher Ali “So when the stars are made to lose their light, .”
Khalifa “Thus, when the stars are put out.”
Arberry “When the stars shall be extinguished.”
Palmer “And when the stars shall be erased! “
Rodwell “When the stars, therefore, shall be blotted out.”
Sale “When the stars, therefore, shall be put out.”
Irving “When the stars fade away.”
Dawood “When the Stars are blotted out.”

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Surah 86:1-3 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “By the Heaven and the Morning Star - ah, what will tell thee
what the Morning Star is! - the piercing Star!”
Yusuf Ali “By the Sky and the Night-Visitant (therein); - And what will
explain to thee what the Night-Visitant is? - (It is) the Star of piercing
brightness.”
Hilali-Khan “By the Heaven, and Al-Tariq (the night-comer, i.e. the bright
star); And what will make you to know what Al-Tariq (night-comer) is?
(It is) the star of piercing brightness.”
Shakir “I swear by the Heaven and the comer by night; And what will
make you know what the comer by night is? The star of piercing
brightness.”
Sher Ali “By the Heaven and the Morning Star - and what should make
thee know what the Morning Star is? It is the star of piercing brightness.”
Khalifa “By the Sky and Al-Taareq. Do you know what Al-Taareq is? The
bright star.”
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Surah 86:1-3 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “By Heaven and the night-star! And what shall teach thee what is
the night-star? The piercing star!”
Palmer “By the Heaven and by the night star! And what shall make thee
know what the night star is?- The star of piercing brightness.”
Rodwell “By the Heaven, and by the night comer! But who shall teach
thee what the night-comer is?”
Sale “By the Heaven, and that which appeareth by night: nearer: But what
shall cause thee to understand what that which appeareth by night [is]?
'Tis the star of piercing radiance. [ It is] the star of piercing brightness.”
Irving “By the Sky and the night comer! What will make you realize what
the night comer is? The star shining [before dawn]!”
Dawood “By the Heaven and by the nightly visitant.Would that you know
what the nightly visitant is.It is the Star of piercing brightness.”

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Response to Claim 28 (Surah 77:8 /86:1-3)
1. This claim is based on connecting two different verses that together refer
to an extinguished Star, and the Star Tariq piercing the darkness.
2. It is unclear if these two verses are related.
3. Claim 27 says that “Tariq” is a Pulsar or Neutron Star. Tariq cannot also
be a Black Hole.
4. The word “Piercing” is never used in the Koran to describe piercing the
fabric of Space.However, it is used to describe a very bright light from a
heavenly body. (e.g.: Surah 37:10)
5. Surah 77:8 refers to Stars going out. However, in the Koran, this is not
like in modern Astronomy.
6. When Stars in the Koran go out, they fall to the ground since they are
portrayed as tiny little lights attached to a solid Sky Dome.The Koran
does not know just how big Stars really are.(Surah 81:1-3)

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Surah 37:10 Piercing the Darkness

“Piercing the darkness” has nothing to do with Black Holes


piercing the fabric of Space.The phrase merely refers to a bright
light in the Sky at night.

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Surah 37:6-10 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament, the
planets; With security from every forward devil. Save him who snatcheth a
fragment, and there pursueth him a piercing flame.”
Yusuf Ali “We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the
stars, - (For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil
spirits, Except such as snatch away something by stealth, and they are
pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness.”
Hilali-Khan “Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for
beauty). And to guard against every rebellious devil. Except such as
snatch away something by stealing and they are pursued by a flaming fire
of piercing brightness.”
Shakir “Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,
the stars, And (there is) a safeguard against every rebellious Shaitan.
Except him who snatches off but once, then there follows him a brightly
shining flame.”

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Surah 37:6-10 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali “We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the
planets & have guarded it against all rebellious satans. They cannot listen
to anything from the exalted assembly of angels …. But if any of them
snatches away something by stealth, he is pursued by a piecing flame”.
Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets. We
guarded it from every evil devil. They cannot spy on the high society …. If
any of them ventures to charge the outer limits, he gets struck with a fierce
projectile.
Arberry “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the
stars & to preserve against every rebel Satan.They listen not to the high
council …. except such as snatches a fragment, and he is pursued by a
piercing flame.
Palmer “Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of
the stars, & to preserve it from every rebellious devil that they may not
listen to the exalted chiefs …. save such as snatches off a word, and there
follows him a darting flame!
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Surah 37:6-10 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the
stars. They serve also as a guard against every rebellious Satan, That
they overhear not what passeth in the assembly on high …. While, if one
steal a word by stealth, a glistening flame pursueth him”.
Sale “We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the stars:
And [we have placed therein] a guard, against every rebellious devil; that
they may not listen to [the discourse of] the exalted princes …. except him
who catcheth a word by stealth, and is pursued by a shining flame.”
Irving “We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of stars plus
a safeguard against every stubborn devil so they may not listen to the
supreme council …. except for someone who tries to eavesdrop so that a
blazing meteor follows him.”
Dawood “We have decked the lower Heaven with constellations.They
guard against rebellious devils that they might not listen in to those on
high …. Eavesdroppers are pursued by fiery comets.”
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“Tariq” (Venus) piercing the darkness
with its bright light.

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Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament

According to the
Koran, the Stars are
just little lights
attached to the solid
Sky.

Surah 81:1-2 says


that the Stars will all
eventually darken &
fall to the ground.

This has nothing to


do with Black Holes.

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Claim 28 (Surah 77:8 /86:1-3) - Conclusion
1. The Koran does not explicitly mention Black Holes.

2. ”Tariq” is Venus whose light pierces the darkness of the night.

3. When Stars go out in the Koran they also fall to the ground as
they are described as being just little lights on the underside of
the floor of Heaven.This is nothing to do with Black Holes.

4. This is another example of some Muslims reading things into


the Koran that are not there.

5. The Korans concept of the death of Stars shows that it is in


error and therefore not of divine origin.

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Claim 29 – The Koran mentions
the Cats Eye Nebula

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Claim 29 Cats Eye Nebula

“And when the Heaven splitteth


asunder and becometh rosy
like red hide.”
Surah 55:37-38

According to some Muslims,


1400 years ago, the Koran
alluded to the Cats Eye Nebula
which was not discovered
until 1786.

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Claim 29 Cats Eye Nebula
1. This is one of the most bizarre claims of a Scientific Miracle in
the Koran. Surah 55:37-38 is said by some to have alluded to
the Cats Eye Nebula almost 1200 years before its discovery
in1786.

2. Mohammed, we are told, could not possibly have known about


this unless God had revealed it to him.

3. Therefore, we are told that this proves the Divine origin of the
Koran and the truth of Islam.

4. Such claims are usually followed by the usual routine.( An


exhortation to accept Allah and “revert” to Islam.)

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Surah 55:37-38 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “And when the Heaven splitteth asunder and becometh rosy
like red hide - Which is it, of the favours of your Lord, that ye deny?”
Yusuf Ali “When the Sky is rent asunder, and it becomes red like
ointment: Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?”
Hilali-Khan “Then when the Heaven is rent asunder, and it becomes
rosy or red like red-oil, or red hide. Then which of the Blessings of your
Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?”
Shakir “And when the Heaven is rent asunder, and then becomes red
like red hide. Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?”
Sher Ali “And when the Heaven is rent asunder and become red like
red hide. Which, then, of the favours of your Lord will ye twain, deny?”
Khalifa “When the Sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint.
Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny?”

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Surah 55:37-38 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “And when Heaven is split asunder, and turns crimson like red
leather -- O which of our lord's bounties will you and you deny?”
Palmer “And when the Heaven is rent asunder and become rosy red -
(melting) like grease! Then which of your lord's bounties will ye twain
deny?”
Rodwell “When the Heaven shall be cleft asunder, and become rose red,
like stained leather: Which then of the bounties of your lord will ye twain
deny?”
Sale “And when the Heaven shall be rent in sunder, and shall become
[red as] a rose, [and shall melt] like ointment: Which, therefore, of your
lord's benefits will ye ungratefully deny?”
Irving “When the sky splits open and becomes like a rose [painted] by
some artist,so which of your Lord's benefits will both of you deny?”
Dawood “When the Sky splits asunder and reddens like a rose or
stained leather, which of your lords blessings would you deny?”
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Response to Claim 29 (Surah 55:37-38)
1. This claim is so weak that it scarcely deserves a response.However,
some Islamic Fundamentalists are so gullible that they actually
believe this and so their claims should not be left unchallenged.

2. Surah 55:37-38 makes no mention of any Nebula.Such a concept is


not mentioned anywhere in the Koran.

3. Surah 55:37-38 mentions the Sky itself and not a Nebula turning red.

4. These verses are referring to events that will occur in the future on
Judgement Day and not referring to the present day and the things
that currently exist.

5. The Cats Eye Nebula is not really red.The famous picture is using
false colour to represent an X-Ray image.

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What Surah 55:37-38 is really describing

These verses describe


the Sky turning red on
Judgement Day &
not a supposedly red
Nebula that currently
exists.

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Surah 55:37-38 Solid Sky split open

Many verses of
the Koran
refer to the Sky
being split open
or rolled up
on Judgement
Day.

This suggests a
belief that the
Sky was solid.

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Claim 29 (Surah 55:37-38) - Conclusion
1. The Koran does not explicitly mention any Nebula.

2. The Cats Eye Nebula is not really red.

3. This claim is based on changing the words and context of the


verses.

4. The verse imply that the Sky is solid since it can be split open.

5. This claim is completely contrary to both the Koran and Science.

6. Furthermore, the reference to a solid Sky being torn open proves


that the Koran is not of divine origin.

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Claim 30 – The Koran accurately
predicted Space Exploration

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Claim 30
Space
Exploration

"O assembly of Jinn's and Men, if you can penetrate regions of the
Heavens & the Earth, then penetrate them! You will not penetrate them
save with a Power." Surah 55:33 Bucaille

"Even if We opened unto them a gate to Heaven and they were to


continue ascending therein, they would say. our sight is confused as in
drunkenness. Nay, we are people bewitched.“ Surah15:14-15 Bucaille
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Claim 30 Space Exploration

1. This is more of an alleged prophecy than a Scientific Miracle.This


claim is that the Koran foretells Space Exploration 1400 years before it
happened.

2. Mohammed, we are told, could not possibly have predicted this unless
God had revealed it to him.

3. Therefore, we are told that this proves the divine origin of the Koran
and the truth of Islam.

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “O company of jinn and men, if ye have power to penetrate
(all) regions of the Heavens and the Earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye
will never penetrate them save with (Our) sanction.”
Yusuf Ali “O ye assembly of jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond
the zones of the Heavens and the Earth, pass ye! not without authority
shall ye be able to pass!”
Hilali-Khan “O assembly of jinns and men! If you have power to pass
beyond the zones of the Heavens and the Earth, then pass (them)! But
you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah)!”
Shakir “O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you are able to pass
through the regions of the Heavens and the Earth, then pass through;
you cannot pass through but with authority.”

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali “O company of jinn and men! if you have power to break through
the confines of the Heavens and the Earth, then break through them. But
you cannot break through save with authority.”
Khalifa “O you jinns and humans, if you can penetrate the outer limits of
the Heavens and the Earth, go ahead and penetrate. You cannot
penetrate without authorization.”
Arberry “O tribe of jinn and of men, if you are able to pass through the
confines of Heaven and Earth, pass through them! You shall not pass
through except with an authority.”
Palmer “O assembly of ginns and mankind! if ye are able to pass through
the confines of Heaven and Earth then pass through them!- ye cannot
pass through save by authority!”

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Surah 55:33 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell “O company of djinn and men, if ye can overpass the bounds of
the Heavens and the Earth, then overpass them. But by our leave only
shall ye overpass them.”
Sale “O ye collective body of genii and men, if ye be able to pass out of
the confines of Heaven and Earth, pass forth: Ye shall not pass forth but
by absolute power.”
Irving “O company of sprites and humankind, if you can manage to
penetrate beyond the realms of Heaven and Earth and then pass
beyond them! Yet you will only penetrate them through some authority.”
Dawood “Mankind and djinn, if you have the power to penetrate the
confines of Heaven and Earth, then penetrate them.But this you shall
not do except with our own authority.”

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Surah15:14-15 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “And even if we opened unto them a gate of Heaven and
they kept mounting through it, they would say: Our sight is wrong -
nay, but we are folk bewitched.”
Yusuf Ali “Even if we opened out to them a gate from Heaven, and
they were to continue (all day) ascending therein,they would only say:
"Our eyes have been intoxicated: nay, we have been bewitched by
sorcery."
Hilali-Khan “And even if we opened to them a gate from the Heaven
and they were to continue ascending thereto, they would surely say:
"Our eyes have been (as if) dazzled. Nay, we are a people
bewitched."
Shakir “And even if we open to them a gateway of Heaven, so that
they ascend into it all the while, they would certainly say: only our
eyes have been covered over, rather we are an enchanted people”.

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Surah15:14-15 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali “And even if we open to them a gate in Heaven, and they
kept ascending through it, they would surely say, `only our eyes are
dazed; rather we are a bewitched people”
Khalifa “Even if we opened for them a gate into the Sky, through
which they climb; they will say, “our eyes have been deceived. We
have been bewitched."
Arberry “Though we opened to them a gate in Heaven, and still they
mounted through it, yet would they say, ‘our eyes have been dazzled;
nay, we are a people bewitched!‘”
Palmer “But had we opened to them a door of the Sky and they had
mounted up into it all the while; then also had they said, ‘our eye-
sight is only intoxicated; nay, we are an enchanted people!‘”

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Surah15:14-15 Checking the translation 3

Rodwell “Even were We to open above them a gate in Heaven, yet all the
while they were mounting up to it, they would surely say: It is only that our
eyes are drunken: nay, we are a people enchanted.”
Sale “If we should open a gate in the Heaven above them, and they
should ascend thereto all the day long, they would surely say, our eyes
are only dazzled; or rather we are a people deluded by inchantments.”
Irving “Even though we opened up a gate to Heaven for them so they
might keep on climbing into it, they still would say: “our eyesight has been
dazzled-in fact, we are enchanted folk!"
Dawood “If we opened for the unbelievers a gate in Heaven, and they
ascended through it higher and higher, still they would say “our eyes were
dazzled, truly we must have been bewitched.”

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Response to Claim 30 (Surah15:14-15 /
55:33 )
1. These verses say nothing about Space Exploration.They concern God
challenging Humanity and the Djinn to climb up to Heaven in the Sky.

2. Neither the American or Russian Space Programmes have involved


Djinn.

3. The reference to “Gates of Heaven” in Surah 15:14-15 imply that the


Sky is solid.

4. Other Ancient writers speculated on Space Travel without any divine


inspiration.However, the Koran does not refer to Space Exploration.

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Surah 15:14-15 Opening the Gates
of Heaven for Men and Djinn
Heaven
Gates of Heaven opened Gates of Heaven opened

Men & Djinn


Earth

The Koran mentions God opening the Gates of Heaven in order to


let both Humanity and the Djinn enter Heaven. The reference to
Gates in the Sky that can be opened implies that the Sky is solid.

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The Djinn
Left: Imam Ali battles the Djinn.
Ali was the cousin and
nephew of Mohammed.

In Islam, Good created three


categories of sentient beings.
Humans from clay, Angels from
light & Djinn from fire.

Neither the Americans or


Russians have used Djinn in
their Space Programmes.

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Lucian of Samosata (c120 AD - 180 AD)

The Koran does not refer to Space Travel.


However, even if it did, such speculation
would not prove Divine inspiration.
Around AD160, The Greek writer Lucian of
Samosata wrote the Worlds first Science
Fiction Story. In the story, the Hero was
kidnapped by Aliens and taken to the Moon.
If Lucian had been a Muslim, modern Muslims
would probably say that he was the first man
on the Moon.

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Claim 30 (Surah15:14-15 /55:33 ) -
Conclusion
1. The Koran does not mention Space Travel, but other earlier
writers did.

2. These verses refer to the possibility of God opening Gates in the


solid Sky Dome in order to allow the Djinn and Humanity to climb
up to Heaven in the Sky.

3. The reference to a solid Sky disproves the Korans alleged Divine


Authorship.

4. This is just another desperate, but unsuccessful attempt by


dishonest Islamic Fundamentalists to prove that their Religion is
true.

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Claim 31 – Men on the Moon

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Claim 31
Lunar
exploration
“And the Moon when it is full
you will surely ride from
stage to stage. So, why
do they not believe?”
Surah 84:18-20
Harun Yahya

This is said to be a Prophecy of Men travelling to the Moon in


a Multi-Stage Rocket, 1400 years before it happened.

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Surah 84:18-20 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall “And by the Moon when she is at the full, that ye shall journey on
from plane to plane.”
Yusuf Ali “And the Moon in her fullness: ye shall surely travel from stage
to stage.”
Hilali-Khan “And by the Moon when it is at the full, you shall certainly
travel from stage to stage (in this life and in the Hereafter).”
Shakir “And the Moon when it grows full, that you shall most certainly
enter one state after another.”
Sher Ali “And the Moon when it becomes full, that you shall, assuredly,
pass on from one stage to another.”
Khalifa “And the Moon and its phases, you will move from stage to stage.”

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Surah 84:18-20 Checking the translation 2
Arberry “And the Moon when it is at the full, you shall surely ride stage
after stage.”
Palmer “Or by the Moon when it is at its full, ye shall be surely transferred
from state to state!”
Rodwell “And by the Moon when at her full, that from state to state shall
ye be surely carried onward.”
Sale “And by the Moon when she is at the full; ye shall surely be
transferred [successively] from state to state.”
Irving “And the moon when it blossoms full,you shall ride along stage by
stage.”
Dawood “By the Moon in her full perfection that you shall march onward
from state to state.”

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Surah 84:18-20 Checking the context
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
When the Heaven is split asunder And attentive to her Lord in fear,
And when the Earth is spread out And hath cast out all that was in her, and is empty
And attentive to her Lord in fear!

Thou, verily, O man, art working toward thy Lord a work which thou wilt meet (in His presence).
Then whoso is given his account in his right hand He truly will receive an easy reckoning
And will return unto his folk in joy. But whoso is given his account behind his back,
He surely will invoke destruction And be thrown to scorching fire.
He verily lived joyous with his folk, He verily deemed that he would never return (unto Allah).
Nay, but lo! his Lord is ever looking on him!

Oh, I swear by the afterglow of sunset, And by the night and all that it enshroudeth,
And by the Moon when she is at the full, That ye shall journey on from plane to plane.
What aileth them, then, that they believe not And, when the Qur'an is recited unto them,
worship not (Allah)? Nay, but those who disbelieve will deny; And Allah knoweth best
what they are hiding. So give them tidings of a painful doom, Save those who believe
and do good works, for theirs is a reward unfailing.

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Surah 84:18-20 Islamic Judgement Day

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Claim 31 (Surah 84:18-20 ) - Conclusion
1. These verses do not refer to Space travel. They refer to the fate of the
living and the dead on Judgement Day.

2. Harun Yahya and others like him are taking these verses out of
context.The context is God discussing the fate of Humanity following
the last Judgement.

3. This Stages referred to are not stages of a Rocket, but rather stages
of life and the afterlife.

4. This claim is based on a complete fantasy and distortion of the text of


the Koran.

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Conclusion Conclusion for Koran
Science & Cosmology (Part 2)
1. In this Presentation, we have looked at another 15 examples of alleged
Scientific Miracles in the Koran and found them to be fraudulent.
2. Most claims of Scientific Miracles involve reading a few vague words
out of context and reading things into them that are not there.
3. In some cases the alleged miracles referred to things already known in
the time of Mohammed.
4. These alleged miracles are extremely weak and most people using
them appear to be just copying and pasting them from websites and
blindly accepting them on faith without understanding them.
5. In many cases when the alleged miracles are investigated, wed find
Scientific mistakes in the Koran which disprove its supposed divine
origin.

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